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Re: Edible Boletes? [Re: rev0kadavur] * 1
    #18937837 - 10/05/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I know kings have a very wide range of variation to them depending on habitat.  I see in one of your pictures A. Muscaria. Which is found commonly growing with kings here is an example




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Re: Edible Boletes? [Re: Tigerlily_13]
    #18937851 - 10/05/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Tigerlily_13 said:
However, there is a net-pattern (like on a cantelope) on the stipe (not as deep or dark as on a cantelope)




You said the net was Tan Colored, over a white background?

The pictures you took they look way way yellow...

do you have a full-size pic of the basket pic?
-The color looks different in that photo.

Maybe its just that the pictures didn't accurately depict the colors.
-everything you have described sounds like B. Edulis.

Those 2 pictures are really throwing me off.

The reticulation on kings is typically white.... can you get a close up pic of the reticulation?
-Maybe it could be a light tan in color, I have never seen that personally though.


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Re: Edible Boletes? [Re: rev0kadavur]
    #18939080 - 10/06/13 06:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The pic made the whole thing look yellower and darker than they were for sure.  I will see if any more crop up tomorrow... after the rain tonight, but the netting is/was pale overall... not very dark, definitely a net pattern.  I tossed the ones I collected as I know they don't last.


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Re: Edible Boletes? [Re: Tigerlily_13]
    #18939122 - 10/06/13 07:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's a shame; they were definitely edible. You could have sliced them and dried them.


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Re: Edible Boletes? [Re: koraks]
    #18939637 - 10/06/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That's a shame; they were definitely edible. You could have sliced them and dried them.




What this guy said. They are edible and probably choice.


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Re: Edible Boletes? [Re: MycoMen]
    #18940667 - 10/06/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you everyone..
I collected a couple today that are not great as my children are about smooshing them...
I got a good closeup and one of the side view of the tubules(?)
I admit I did sautee some up with butter and fresh garlic.. very tasty. not bitter, and the only thing I didn't like was the texture of the cooked pores/tubules, so next time I will take that off first.


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Re: Edible Boletes? [Re: Tigerlily_13]
    #18940674 - 10/06/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Edible Boletes? [Re: Tigerlily_13]
    #18940816 - 10/06/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Tigerlily_13 said:




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Tigerlily_13 said:
Thank you everyone..
I collected a couple today that are not great as my children are about smooshing them...
I got a good closeup and one of the side view of the tubules(?)
I admit I did sautee some up with butter and fresh garlic.. very tasty. not bitter, and the only thing I didn't like was the texture of the cooked pores/tubules, so next time I will take that off first.






Those pictures definitely look more king like...
-Are the pores on the younger ones more of a white color? or pale dingy yellow?

Kings never look neon/sulfur yellow like the other pictures... lol..
-Cameras, they can fool ya~:super:


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Re: Edible Boletes? [Re: Tigerlily_13]
    #18941694 - 10/06/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm going to go ahead and placate the taxonomy geeks out there for a second with this: B. edulis is actually the name for the European mushroom, and mycology nerds the world over are generally loathe to say that two very similar looking mushrooms living on different continents are actually the same species of mushroom because we need something over which to senselessly bicker. Just an FYI for those who notice the snorting and eye-rolling and snarky commentary that takes place on teh Internets about such things, and, like myself, are slightly annoyed by said behavior. "Um...don't you mean Boletus cf. edulis or Eastern B. edulis?" I refuse to engage in the mycological version of Internet-based grammar nazism, people! We need a Godwin's Law for this sort of thing. Anytime anyone begets any taxonomically-induced assholery, they lose and the thread is shut down. And they get a wedgie after school. 

ANYWAY...I'm putting the cart before the horse here. The point is, everyone says B. edulis because it's all we've got without being dicks about it and there has been way too little research done on boletes, which is not only a fact, but also my opinion. Ok...so the REAL point is that because of this lack of material to work with on boletes, especially American B. edulis-like boletes, there's a "cluster" of very similar North American boletes that are difficult to tell apart and generally all referred to as B. edulis anyway, and nobodyfuckingcares because they're all pretty delicious. THIS WILL KEEP YOU ON THE EDGE OF YOUR SEAT: http://www.mushroomexpert.com/boletus_edulis.html

Okay, so, back to your regularly scheduled program. The bolete in your yard. I say Boletus sp. for shizz, due to the olive-yellow pore surface. If it is as yellow in real life as it seems to be in the pix, I'd go with Boletus gertrudiae, but if not, I'd agree with B. edulis. B. edulis varies in stem shape and size, though they're usually stocky (sometimes stubby, sometimes tall) though the reticulation is normally white or whitish. Tylopilus sp. usually has the brown reticulation, but have cream-colored to pinkish-brown pore surfaces and pinkish brown spore prints, and usually taste like bitter asshole. The King Bolete (y'all are talking about the California King Bolete, right?) is a west coast mushroom. :wink: The Birch Bolete is actually a Leccinum sp., which is relatively easily identified by the black scabers on its stem. 

Yes edible. Check out the Edibility Rules for Boletes. These guidelines don't guarantee they'll be tasty, just not poisonous.

Very short guide to IDing a bolete's genus:

Leccinum=scabers on stem, usually black/brown and easily noticeable
Suillus=sticky/slimy cap, partial veil or ring (usually), glandular dots on stem
Strobilomyces=grayish, shaggy black velvety patches or scales on cap
Gyroporus=hollow stems, lemon yellow spore prints
Tylopilus=creamy to pinkish brown pore surface, pinkish brown spore print, usually extremely bitter
Pseudoboletus parasiticus=growing out of an earthball
Boletus=kind of an "any other variety" genus, olivaceous spore prints, solid stems
Xantheconium=like Boletus, only with yellow to ochre colored spore prints.

Most boletes do not have a partial veil/ring and almost all are mycorrhizal. All have pores instead of gills.

Happy Hunting! :awesome:


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Re: Edible Boletes? [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #18942840 - 10/06/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Anytime anyone begets any taxonomically-induced assholery, they lose and the thread is shut down. And they get a wedgie after school. 






The whole thing was a great read. Nicely done. :thumbup:


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Re: Edible Boletes? [Re: Ganzig]
    #18942850 - 10/06/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The whole thing was a great read. Nicely done. :thumbup:




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Re: Edible Boletes? [Re: MidnightCity]
    #18945903 - 10/07/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:themoreyouknow:

Thankies! :grin:


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Re: Edible Boletes? [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #18946133 - 10/07/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I detect no assholery in this thread.
But I do detect a slight hint of bitterness.
Well written!

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Re: Edible Boletes? [Re: rev0kadavur]
    #18946385 - 10/07/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

nice post.  helpful for noobs aka me!


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