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2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI)
    #18945242 - 10/07/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.channel3000.com/news/teens-hospitalized-after-overdosing-on-synthetic-drug/-/1648/22312746/-/kauvn6/-/index.html

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MADISON, Wis. -
Two high school boys were hospitalized after overdosing on a synthetic drug that the Dane County Sheriff’s Office is issuing a warning about.

The sheriff’s office said one of the boys remains hospitalized and might have long term physical damage after taking the drug known by numerous names like 25i NBOMe, Smiles, N-Bomb and 251.

The drug was first sold as a recreational drug in 2010 after researchers studying chemical compounds to treat illnesses like depression and schizophrenia discovered the drug’s effects.

Consumers compare the drug to LSD because it’s a hallucinogenic. It can be inhaled, injected, or snorted, according to sheriff’s officials.

Adverse effects include aggression, hypertension, seizures, elevated white blood cell counts and acute kidney damage. Overdosing has resulted in long-term hospitalization and even death.

The drug is most commonly found on blotter paper and might be sold as LSD in this form. Like other designer drugs, its make-up is ever-changing, making the legal status ambiguous.

The sheriff’s office said there are federal cases in which sellers have been prosecuted in overdose deaths.

Parents and guardians are encouraged to educate themselves about these drugs and to discuss the dangers with their children.





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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) [Re: RobMarley420]
    #18945302 - 10/07/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

25i was created to treat depression and schizophrenia?? where are the sources on that?

why don't these fucking news reporters just say what fucking happened why do they have to make up a bullshit history story to go along with it lol


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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) *DELETED* [Re: SurReality]
    #18945374 - 10/07/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) [Re: SurReality]
    #18945405 - 10/07/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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SurReality said:
25i was created to treat depression and schizophrenia?? where are the sources on that?

why don't these fucking news reporters just say what fucking happened why do they have to make up a bullshit history story to go along with it lol



But where would be the fun in that? Then the reporters would actually have to cut into some of their precious time by doing a little real work and researching things for themselves, instead of just reaching into the slanted mediasphere to pick and choose what lies to try and force-feed the public.


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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #18945417 - 10/07/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

the problem with nbomes and other non-tradition psychs (psilocyin, lsd, mescaline) is there is a point of overdose and death.

that's great if you think its better than LSD, i certainly do not but its very close. LSD is nice for me because with a regular dose i am fine in public, with nbome or 2c-x i get extremely nauseous on the come-up. but after about of an hour or two and sometimes lots of vomiting i am ok to go about my biz...

at least with mushrooms after one good chuck i'm feeling great.


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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #18945426 - 10/07/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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SurReality said:
25i was created to treat depression and schizophrenia?? where are the sources on that?

why don't these fucking news reporters just say what fucking happened why do they have to make up a bullshit history story to go along with it lol



But where would be the fun in that? Then the reporters would actually have to cut into some of their precious time by doing a little real work and researching things for themselves, instead of just reaching into the slanted mediasphere to pick and choose what lies to try and force-feed the public.




an article is supposed to be direct and to the point. they don't need to do research unless its some kind of story they are reporting, which is not the case. they should have just left out the details that don't have to do with the hospitalization.


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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) [Re: SurReality]
    #18945446 - 10/07/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

True. It's appalling that so many cases of pure speculation get passed off and accepted as valid news stories in this day and age. It's part of the reason the mass media has such an edge with people who by into sensationalist rhetoric.


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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) *DELETED* [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #18945595 - 10/07/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #18945682 - 10/07/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Fuck research chemicals. Straight up. I enjoy the Psychedelic Experience as much as the next  does, but I'm not risking my life for it. You only live once, don't be an idiot and take 10 tabs of nBOM.


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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) *DELETED* [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18945721 - 10/07/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) [Re: RobMarley420]
    #18945736 - 10/07/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Parents and guardians are encouraged by law enforcementto be misinformed by propaganda themselves about these drugs and to discuss the dangers with misinform their children.







There ya go.


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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #18945769 - 10/07/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

isnt that whole strychnine thing on tabs a myth..??

Cereal question.

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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) [Re: DpRwav]
    #18946004 - 10/07/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It raises your white blood cell count? Cool. So will this get rid of my sinus infection or the flu or something. That'd be sweet.


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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #18946160 - 10/07/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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After reading a muriad of horror stories, I was skeptical about 25i as well.

Then i realized, i had read a muriad of horror stories about all the psychedelics, even the tame ones, like shrooms.


Then I took some 25i. Its better than lsd, its cleaner. Its even cleaner than shrooms.

So basically my conclusion is some people cant handle psychedelics period. Those people should avoid them. There are however those of us who really enjoy a good psychedelic ride, and 25i is indeed a good psychedelic ride. Oh yea. Like anything else, dont be a dumb ass and overdose by eating more than 5 or 6 mg..... Most people are happy with 1. Im very experienced, and 4.5mg was enough to whoop my ass good for a full 24 hours.

Cheers.



Yes because a chemical with a OD limit is better than one without :thumbdown:. LSD is far better and cleaner than 25i.. you cant OD on LSD (toxicity wise).. so let me ask you again how is it cleaner? :tongue2:


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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) *DELETED* [Re: MescalitoMagnality]
    #18946205 - 10/07/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #18946259 - 10/07/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i think you missed his point and propelled the never ending "circumnavigation" of the conversation.


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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) *DELETED* [Re: DpRwav]
    #18946354 - 10/07/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #18946483 - 10/07/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

you betcha


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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) [Re: DpRwav]
    #18946665 - 10/07/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

25-I was probably the weirdest of all the psychedelics I took. It had a horrible chemical taste and there really is no research done on it all, so why risk it? Its a shame that there really isn't any LSD around anymore, just all these dumb research chemicals


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Re: 2 teens hospitalized after 25-I overdose (WI) [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #18946830 - 10/07/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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malicom said:
After reading a muriad of horror stories, I was skeptical about 25i as well.

Then i realized, i had read a muriad of horror stories about all the psychedelics, even the tame ones, like shrooms.


Then I took some 25i. Its better than lsd, its cleaner. Its even cleaner than shrooms.

So basically my conclusion is some people cant handle psychedelics period. Those people should avoid them. There are however those of us who really enjoy a good psychedelic ride, and 25i is indeed a good psychedelic ride. Oh yea. Like anything else, dont be a dumb ass and overdose by eating more than 5 or 6 mg..... Most people are happy with 1. Im very experienced, and 4.5mg was enough to whoop my ass good for a full 24 hours.

Cheers.







That's one of the stupidest fucking things I've read on here in a while.

If by "cleaner" you mean "feels cleaner" then that's purely subjective. Maybe to you it does. I've heard lots of people say the opposite.

In terms of safety? It is very obvious that this shit is nowhere near as safe as LSD or psilocybin. A number of people have had adverse reactions on this stuff, including seizures and death. Those are not all clear cases of overdose, either. So your characterizing it as "some people just can't handle their shit" is super ignorant.

You should read what 25i's creator has said about the NBOMes.


There is also a study linking 25i to neurotoxicity that you should look up.


It's really not cleaner. It really is orders of magnitude more dangerous.


But if you like it, hey, I guess that's cool. As long as you never try to pass it off as something it's not, or give it to irresponsible people, I wish you all the luck in the world. But don't make it try to sound like something it's not. Even a little casual digging can reveal to you the true nature of this drug and what it can do compared to traditional, more commonly used, more thoroughly understood, safer psychedelics like LSD and psilocybin.


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