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self replicating machiene elves
#18943866 - 10/07/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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when i did salvia , i saw what i thought was aliens, and me, myself was self replicating and the aliens knew that i broke through and were trying to send me back to reailty, because they didnt like me knowing about their "room" ,
now after reading about dmt(which ive never tried), i see, people see self replicating machine elves on dmt
but whats with people seeing similar (self replicating beings) on substances that zone you way out of reality?
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: hidenseek1]
#18943869 - 10/07/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ask the trip report crowd
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: hidenseek1]
#18943922 - 10/07/13 09:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not a real subscriber to the belief that people ACTUALLY talk to other-dimensional entities during trips. But I'd like to think different beings would inhabit different realms, of which are accessible thorough using different substances. You go to Carnivale-funhouse-of-nature-world on salvia, and go to Alex-Grey-painting-world on DMT. Think "Duneons and Dragons/ Planescape".
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no they didnt talk, there were 2 greys in the "room" and i was like a roll of film, every square was a exact copy of me, except the film wasnt a tape, it was like individual cards, on a sorta machine the spun them around, except i was poping off of the machine into their room, there seemed to be a infinite amount of these "me cards" and as fast as i was popping off of their matrix machine into the room , the greys were throwing me back on to the machine
i assume the trip ended when they finally got me back to not popping off their machine, i remember the entire duration because there were so many of me popping off, there was at least one of me off their machine at any given time
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: hidenseek1]
#18943968 - 10/07/13 09:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have seen alot of salvia trips involving grey figures sorting out things in the universe. I guess it would be interesting to see if these are similar because of the way the drug effects you, or from power of suggestion. As in reading similar reports and the trip being effected by the impression.
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Sulfurshelfsean said: I'm not a real subscriber to the belief that people ACTUALLY talk to other-dimensional entities during trips. But I'd like to think different beings would inhabit different realms, of which are accessible thorough using different substances. You go to Carnivale-funhouse-of-nature-world on salvia, and go to Alex-Grey-painting-world on DMT. Think "Duneons and Dragons/ Planescape".
How much experience do you have with DMT?
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: snoot]
#18965058 - 10/11/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quite a bit.
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Sulfurshelfsean said: Quite a bit.
Well I subscribe to this notion, only after having experienced something similar numerous times. The first time I did dmt, having not known much about what it was and broke threw, I experienced some highly similar things, I wouldnt call them gnomes or aliens, or squirrels, the name is pretty irrelevant, perhaps they are mirror images of my self, but the truth is coming away from those experiences left me with a feeling that to this day, for the life of me I cannot shake. I would call the experiences themselves highly profound, especially after having experimented with IV dmt.
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: snoot]
#18967682 - 10/12/13 09:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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people see mixed manifestations of their memories
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: hidenseek1]
#18967751 - 10/12/13 10:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I had a similar experience on Salvia. The wall in my bedroom opened up to an endless machine fractal world. There was a large insectoid creature in the "control room" operating levers and switches. Upon realizing that I had entered his realm he started frantically operating controls until the wall closed up again. There was a distinct sense of "he's not supposed to be here!" coming from the alien.
Probably my most intense and interesting psychedelic experience.
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: hidenseek1]
#18967838 - 10/12/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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My friend had a similar experience. He felt that there were aliens communicating information to him and this info seemed to represent something which appeared to manifest the resemblance to info not derived from human sources, something which before its existence was acknowledged had never formerly existed, so he realized this info he was receiving was from a source no other human had ever found before.
I also remember that he heard elves on top of his roof, he said he could of swore he heard them dancing above his head wwhile he was sitting on his bed.
so yeah I suppose there are drugs that may take you out of your former reality and put you in a different one, perhaps the reality you enter will be so unlike anything you'd ever seen that you'd no longer be able to identify the reality you were used to.
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: drkkenny]
#18968201 - 10/12/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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am I the only one who just sees a fractal explosion of colors and light when I take DMT? I never see entities. I've taken huge quantities as well.
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: morrowasted]
#18968355 - 10/12/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: am I the only one who just sees a fractal explosion of colors and light when I take DMT? I never see entities. I've taken huge quantities as well.
ayahusca is the only thing thats ever made me see an entity and i used to do like 2gs of dxm at a time and mix salvia with mushrooms and shit.
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: teamkiller]
#18968366 - 10/12/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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no they didnt talk, there were 2 greys in the "room" and i was like a roll of film, every square was a exact copy of me, except the film wasnt a tape, it was like individual cards, on a sorta machine the spun them around, except i was poping off of the machine into their room, there seemed to be a infinite amount of these "me cards" and as fast as i was popping off of their matrix machine into the room , the greys were throwing me back on to the machine
i assume the trip ended when they finally got me back to not popping off their machine, i remember the entire duration because there were so many of me popping off, there was at least one of me off their machine at any given time
thats pretty much the coolest trip report i've ever read
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: teamkiller]
#18968402 - 10/12/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: am I the only one who just sees a fractal explosion of colors and light when I take DMT? I never see entities. I've taken huge quantities as well.
ayahusca is the only thing thats ever made me see an entity and i used to do like 2gs of dxm at a time and mix salvia with mushrooms and shit.
ive done yage as well. ive up to 100mg of DMT at once.
i think my mind is just, like, too naturally scrambled to see entities when it becomes scrambled
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: snoot]
#18968771 - 10/12/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I'd have to experience what you have to make up my own mind I suppose. Never IV'd anything before, but DMT IV sounds like something I could try.
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: teamkiller]
#18968780 - 10/12/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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no they didnt talk, there were 2 greys in the "room" and i was like a roll of film, every square was a exact copy of me, except the film wasnt a tape, it was like individual cards, on a sorta machine the spun them around, except i was poping off of the machine into their room, there seemed to be a infinite amount of these "me cards" and as fast as i was popping off of their matrix machine into the room , the greys were throwing me back on to the machine
i assume the trip ended when they finally got me back to not popping off their machine, i remember the entire duration because there were so many of me popping off, there was at least one of me off their machine at any given time
thats pretty much the coolest trip report i've ever read
the flashcard trip is common.
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: akira_akuma]
#18969182 - 10/12/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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dmt is pretty similar to salvia except it doesnt suck
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: Envix]
#18969207 - 10/12/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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"our traditional tendency to define ourselves as imaginary individualistic constants neurally wires and designs the brain towards dysfunctional cognitive processes. this causes compulsive labeling and the psychological urge to impose expectations"
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: akira_akuma]
#18970790 - 10/13/13 01:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Salvia doesn't suck its so fricken cool and inter dimensional and shit. I can't think of anything that gives u a more distorted body sense without taking away Ur body sense.
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: teamkiller]
#18970985 - 10/13/13 03:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Humans can self replicate and they are machines. We've got lots of levers, for example. We're also computers, but nobody likes that one much. Brain for a CPU, nervous system for the I/O. We're also pixilated, like everything else in consensus reality. Nobody likes that one either. But they do think fractals are pretty, so they don't mind realizing that they're made of fractals.
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: teamkiller]
#18971898 - 10/13/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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teamkiller said: Salvia doesn't suck its so fricken cool and inter dimensional and shit. I can't think of anything that gives u a more distorted body sense without taking away Ur body sense.
but it's painful
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: morrowasted]
#18972028 - 10/13/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've had some heavy DMT trips and seen some crazy shit, but I think believing you actually talk to other extra-dimensional beings on DMT is crossing the line from "philosophical" to "delusional." We know that it's a powerful psychedelic drug which alters brain chemistry. There's no evidence to indicate that it can transport your soul to other Universes (or that we even have souls, for that matter).
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: NetDiver]
#18972077 - 10/13/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Samurai Drifter said: I've had some heavy DMT trips and seen some crazy shit, but I think believing you actually talk to other extra-dimensional beings on DMT is crossing the line from "philosophical" to "delusional." We know that it's a powerful psychedelic drug which alters brain chemistry. There's no evidence to indicate that it can transport your soul to other Universes (or that we even have souls, for that matter).
I dont think anyone is really saying it transports anything to anyhwere. People often speak in metaphor in order to transcribe their idea/experience. Truth is it does something, that much is known.
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: morrowasted]
#18972099 - 10/13/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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teamkiller said: Salvia doesn't suck its so fricken cool and inter dimensional and shit. I can't think of anything that gives u a more distorted body sense without taking away Ur body sense.
but it's painful
is was explaining to sheekle its only painful if ur a baby.
if you remember like 10 years ago no one was doing k because people didn't like the body feelings lololololol.
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Re: self replicating machiene elves [Re: teamkiller]
#18972164 - 10/13/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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teamkiller said: Salvia doesn't suck its so fricken cool and inter dimensional and shit. I can't think of anything that gives u a more distorted body sense without taking away Ur body sense.
but it's painful
is was explaining to sheekle its only painful if ur a baby.
if you remember like 10 years ago no one was doing k because people didn't like the body feelings lololololol.
I don't mind and even sometimes enjoy the body feelings from dissociatives. Salvia is downright painful
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