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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: Vriska Serket]
    #18943441 - 10/07/13 05:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm currently at 8mil per second, but I'm at that point where I feel like "why am I doing this? Where is this going?" Ultimately, all that's left now is to buy the same stuff over and over, getting a number higher and higher, and there's nothing else really left in the game. I can restart, but that just means doing the same thing all over again for the same lack of reward.

It's like when you reach max level in an MMO and you have this feeling like "why am I doing this? What was this all for?"

I wonder if this is how astronomically rich people feel.


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: nooneman]
    #18943449 - 10/07/13 05:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This game is fucking :lol:

Yet I'm playing it :facepalm:


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: Asante]
    #18943477 - 10/07/13 05:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
All those guys with billions and trillions a second are cheating :snub:

It was must fun until I got my first antimatter converter (I think they meant Dark Matter Converter by the way), when I got that I was like "OK, now I've got the best equipment, getting more of them would just be retarded.

And it was.

still I'm now 12 hours in the game and I got 85 mil a second.

I've been experimenting with several strategies, buying and selling different spreads.

Right now I'm at such velocity that I liquidated all assets except portals, time machines and Dark Matter Condensers.

I had a shitton of grannies but I laid them all off and got a few portals for them that outproduced them even factoring in the cost of more heavy equipment compared with the 4 x 2 = 8x speedup the grannies could be made to. Grannies just dont cut it and are no longer worth the towering investments needed to make them a bit more productive.  Those are best kept for heavy equipment and overall % performance increases. Sending the grannies off for retirement will likely result in the store drpping grannies investment products in favor of those for asset classes I DO own, and which are boosted quite a lot more for just about the same sum.

I keep my portals, my Time Machines and Dark Matter Converters in a ratio relative to one another where I buy THAT asset that provides the cheaper increase in cookies/sec. If for instance you put a billion in portals AND a billion in Time Machines, you are long on portals and short on time machines, which is the wrong way around as time machines are higher yield in CPS.

See? You can cheat, you can buy what you fancy or you can strategize and try to get an edge that way, its something for everyone.



You clearly haven't played long enough if that's your strategy.  When you get further along, you'll find that the order of value is:

Condensers
Time Machines
Grandmas
Portals
Cursors
Everything else


"everything else" can be considered one category since they produce a very similar cps per unit after you've gotten all of the upgrades.  At that point, the proportional value of each compared to condensers is:

Time Machines: .101
Grandmas: .043
Portals: .029
Cursor: .015
Everything else: .003

When the cost to purchase something is cheaper than the condenser x the proportional value above, you should purchase the item.

Always remember, however, to keep CPS x 8400 in the bank to maximize the value of the golden cookies.

Finally, building proportionately is nice, but in order to get all of the upgrades, you have to purchase 240 cursors and 100 of everything else.  Getting 100 condensers is worth a shitload because the final upgrade will double their output which basically means a huge increase in total CPS.

P.S.  Selling items to purchase other items is counterproductive in the long run since they sell for far less than the purchase price.


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: Enlil]
    #18943491 - 10/07/13 05:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Did you deduce all this yourself from gameplay or did you read up on strategy?

/me gets back into grandmas


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: Asante]
    #18943497 - 10/07/13 05:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

After getting all of the upgrades and all of the available milk, I noted the gain in CPS from each additional unit of every available purchase.  Grandmas and cursors are a bit less straightforward because grandmas get a cps bump for every 50 you own.  My numbers are for 200-250 range which is about where you'll settle because the prices get very high as things go up (right now, grandmas cost 12 quadrillion each for me).  Cursors get a bump for every non-cursor item you own which is why you should purchase "everything else" items when they make sense proportionately.

In any case, getting all of the achievements and upgrades is crucial to long-term success since they increase cps far beyond what additional items will give.  Achievements give milk and milk increases cps overall.

Finally, you're not going to get as many cps as I have until you get some heavenly chips.  That means getting some cookies saved up and resetting to start over.  Don't worry, the second time it goes much faster. 

P.S. 878 billion cps now.


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: Enlil]
    #18943502 - 10/07/13 05:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That means getting some cookies saved up and resetting to start over.  Don't worry, the second time it goes much faster. 




How do you do that?


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: Asante]
    #18943508 - 10/07/13 05:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can do a reset in the menu.  It keeps your achievements but resets the upgrades and gives you zero cookies and zero purchases.  Based on how many "all time" cookies you've made, you get heavenly chips.  The first will be 1 trillion, the second will be 2, and the cost keeps growing geometrically. 

Each heavenly chip increases your cps multiplier by 2%.  I currently have 3000 heavenly chips, so I'm getting a 6000% multiplier right off the bat.  That speeds up the restart significantly.  At this point, I can make 30 trillion in my first hour after the reset, easy.



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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: Asante]
    #18943513 - 10/07/13 05:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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in order to get all of the upgrades, you have to purchase 240 cursors and 100 of everything else.  Getting 100 condensers is worth a shitload because the final upgrade will double their output which basically means a huge increase in total CPS.





This is my goal now, 240 cursors and 100 of everything.


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: Asante]
    #18943515 - 10/07/13 05:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's a good place to start.  Keep clicking golden cookies as well to upgrade those.

Also, try to get the "research" upgrades as soon as possible.  Once you get through the grandmapocalypse, the CPS goes up significantly.


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: Enlil]
    #18944021 - 10/07/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

33 million/sec, no cheats :rockon:


once I get to 1 billion I'm stopping.

agreed with wiccan that once i got my first antimatter condenser it got pretty dull.


but I keep playing... :bored:


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: NWlight] * 1
    #18944077 - 10/07/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

they need to make a shroomery clicker! instead of a cookie, its a big mushroom. all the shit you can buy should be related to random teks and supplies and shit. i think the comments could be pretty funny too!

just make sure i get some of the credit once its actually up and running!


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: Not Responding]
    #18947439 - 10/07/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

24 hours later and I'm at 11.5bn/sec.  I completely forgot to run it overnight too :kingcrankey:


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18947821 - 10/08/13 01:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

48 million and I've been playing 32 hours :bored:

what am I doing wrong


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: NWlight]
    #18947830 - 10/08/13 01:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nothing, honestly that is good.  What you have to do is go to sleep overnight and get as many antimatter condensers as possible, buy all those, and then you want to look for the upgrades that lengthen your lucky cookies (Lucky day, serendipity, and get lucky). 

Did you bookmark the javascript thing I posted earlier so that you know when golden cookies are coming?


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18947838 - 10/08/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

nah I havent used any cheats :sun:


50 million/ sec now!

I think I'm going to quit when i get 100 of everything :lol:


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: NWlight]
    #18947842 - 10/08/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, have fun with that.  It takes hundreds of trillions a condenser once you get up to about 80 or so (which is damn near impossible unless you have heavenly cookies).  I don't consider a bookmarklet cheating, simply a helpful tool.  Using scripts or automation to click cookies = cheating IMO.  It's like not using Wikipedia sources on a school report :lolsy:.


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18947846 - 10/08/13 01:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

hey man i'm down with wikipedia :smirk:


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: NWlight]
    #18947868 - 10/08/13 01:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

lol i started like 40 minutes ago and now i'm 25.8g/sec


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: SurReality]
    #18947878 - 10/08/13 01:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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SurReality said:
lol i started like 40 minutes ago and now i'm 25.8g/sec




Winners never cheat, and cheaters never win.  :likeaboss:


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Re: Cookie Clicker!! [Re: SurReality]
    #18947885 - 10/08/13 01:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i don't even understand the cheat things, only saw 2 cookies to click and the second one didn't do shit. ???


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