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Re: What if it's all just chemical? [Re: Icelander]
    #19114263 - 11/10/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
So true, even now at 60 I do more in a day then most at 40 but it's nothing much compared to when I was actually 40 and you're right about it hurting a lot now. And the emotions are flat mostly.  And romantic love, the basis of all  my youthful dreams is now just a bad joke.

    Kratom has come to my rescue in old age and I'm semi blissed out for hours a day. It's really pleasant much of the time.  Waiting out my inevitable end. :satansmoking:




you're a cool dude yo, at least you're honest.


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Re: What if it's all just chemical? [Re: stzacrack]
    #19114742 - 11/10/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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"Everything there is, and all that there is, is a Pattern of unspeakable proportion. The Pattern contains everything that is, completely fixed in succession, all the minimal particles interconnected in every way that is. Every way that is is not every conceivable way, because not everything that can be conceived is manifest in the pattern."

"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

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Re: What if it's all just chemical? [Re: crkhd]
    #19119024 - 11/11/13 04:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Someone already said this but I'd like to say it in my own way. Why does it matter if psychedelic substances induce a purely chemical experience? It doesn't. Everything is physical experience. Everything in this world is made up of the same building blocks arranged in different ways as far as we can tell.
Why do we think physical reality is less sacred than nonphysical? What is the nonphysical? I suspect it is a creation of the mind because it does not recognize the greatness of the world around us.


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Re: What if it's all just chemical? [Re: DeathMadeTangible]
    #19122544 - 11/11/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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But realistically speaking, if you take enough shrooms or DMT or [insert choice hallucinogen here] and you report OBE/OOBE experiences like seeing or telepathically communicating with "God," you still have 0 concrete evidence that such things exist outside of your own brain.





False assumption. I've read some intriguing reports about telepathy between users and strange interactions with animals.


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Re: What if it's all just chemical? [Re: s240779]
    #19125272 - 11/12/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

intriguing reports do not constitute fact. :tongue:  The Onion posts intriguing reports all the time.  People not in on the joke even believe them.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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The more knowledge, the more grief.
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