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alittleanxious
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Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane
#18936174 - 10/05/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Now im a daily smoker for some time. And i miss how it effected me when i first started smoking. I know if i want a punch in the face from the warm fuzzy feeling again im gonna have to either cut back or smoke more..
But im talking about the mental effects, how can i learn to use and control them, because mary jane can teach you lots if you let her.
Ive had my fair share of trips, and sometimes it seems that a good toke brings me into a completely psychedelic mindstate, like a really focused mindfuck. And im hoping if i can master that effect then i wont drop so much acid all the time, and my friends might stop taking all my theories as crackpot
Im wondering if theres a way i can get that more often, because its like a rare treat
How can i learn to use cannabis as a learning tool?
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: alittleanxious]
#18936272 - 10/05/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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All weed does for me is allow me to be somewhat more keen, but only after a few weeks of starting to smoke it again, to allow for a few weeks of giving my brain it's neuroprotective effects.
But I will say that being high on bridgesii right now, no, the psychedelic feeling nor thought process can be remotely emulated with weed. If it could, inexperienced people would actually freak out on it lol
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#18936340 - 10/05/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I noticed that it is a difference if you smoke your first weed in the morning or only in the evening. Redosing MJ on the very same day I think is quite ineffective.
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: alittleanxious]
#18936367 - 10/05/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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alittleanxious said:And im hoping if i can master that effect then i wont drop so much acid all the time, and my friends might stop taking all my theories as crackpot
Im wondering if theres a way i can get that more often, because its like a rare treat
How can i learn to use cannabis as a learning tool?
You mastering an effect is not going to make your 'friends' stop calling you derisive names.
At the end of the day it is as simple as sitting down and meditating after toking. You can also get some very high level visuals in a dark room setting with practice. Being more mindful helps as you can start to notice what goes on inside you during the 'trips' and you can start to try to gravitate towards that state. I should clarify that there is more than one meditation and they can be very different. One can meditate on an idea, on a feeling, or meditate on nothing, inquire, do mental exercises, etc
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: alittleanxious]
#18937059 - 10/05/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Take a break. Anything from 3 days to five weeks.
When you toke again you will get much stronger effects. Especially if you let it completely leave your system.
Also it helps you get high on less weed, so as long as you don't get back into the habit of toking huge amounts per day, you can get the same effects with much less weed.
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: Rose]
#18937080 - 10/05/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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well personally its good to take a break every once and a while to regain what you once had. Plus i advice in getting a vaporizer you get higher with less and not as hard on the lungs as actual smoking of the bud.
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: itsaconspiracy]
#18938200 - 10/05/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Take a massive rip of good budder.
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: Enslyn]
#18941213 - 10/06/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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2 ways I've found:
With really good bud, take full lungful's (pref with a vaporizer) and hold until you gasp. Repeat right away 2-3 times. This kicks in hard and gives me a crazy mind-rush which builds until I feel trippy.
Keep smoking for 3-4 hours, big lungful's each time. Doing this last night, I reached a state where I felt incredibly lucid, yet my memory was fucked. Felt like I was in a happy memory, and music was mind-blowing.
I was seeing my issues visualised tactilely, I was like an oblong with a box attached. The box was my relationship with altered states, but was heavily dominated by the sensation of being drunk. This made me realise my worldview was more rigid than I thought. The oblong was the encrusted habituation. The box my comparison of all altered states against the alcohol intoxication - which explained why I found it hard to enjoy the weed high at first.
I was then seeing scenes from my life, but seeing "me" as outside myself, as other people saw me in those situations - and I realised what a twat I had been. It wasn't harsh or self-hating, just observation and acceptance.
For me, the above hits my definition of psychedelic.
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: misterjingo]
#18941558 - 10/06/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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tolerance break.
take 2 weeks off and you will get pretty lit off a nice bong rip
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: SnowDaze]
#18941625 - 10/06/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can't emulate an actual psychedelic experience qualitatively similar to 5ht2a agonists with marijuana lol. No matter what concentration of noids are in your system
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: MagicalOrangutan] 1
#18941755 - 10/06/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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MagicalOrangutan said: You can't emulate an actual psychedelic experience qualitatively similar to 5ht2a agonists with marijuana lol. No matter what concentration of noids are in your system
thats like... your opinion bro
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: SnowDaze]
#18941773 - 10/06/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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unless high doses of cannabis has significant affinity for serotonergic psychedelic receptors, then actually it's pure neurochemistry.
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#18942324 - 10/06/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well the term psychedelic is very subjective. Yes I'm sure there are certain receptors that are primarily active during psychedelic drug experiences, but I don't believe it is limited to those. Psychedelic just means mind manifesting, you could have a psychedelic experience while sober. So THC can definitely be psychedelic for some people.
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: Harrishroom]
#18942353 - 10/06/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Me personally, I don't like vagueness, so I only use the term psychedelic when referring to serotonergic psychedelics like dmt and mescaline
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: alittleanxious]
#18942761 - 10/06/13 10:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Personally,
Everytime i smoke cannabis, i have an experience that i can not fully comprehend once i am in a sober state again
I dont know what it is
Lots of strobing all around my vision in different directions some points it feels like my arms are composed of geometric shapes spinning as i put them in my pockets
time is not a variable in reality within this headspace, there is no time
and it almost as if everything ive ever collected within my brain is surging at such a high speed in my head
its uncomprehendable
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: SeattleBlue]
#18942805 - 10/06/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Weed is not like tripping tob e perfectly honest. It has some trippy effects, but it isn't like eating a real dose and going into orbit. The psychedelic label it has I don't really agree with, but whatever. It can be a bit trippy for sure, but nothing like 5 grams of shrooms etc.
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
#18942918 - 10/06/13 11:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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psilocybinjunkie said: Weed is not like tripping tob e perfectly honest. It has some trippy effects, but it isn't like eating a real dose and going into orbit. The psychedelic label it has I don't really agree with, but whatever. It can be a bit trippy for sure, but nothing like 5 grams of shrooms etc.
This is not true for me. Weed makes me trip out just as hard as acid or mushrooms.
It depends on the strain and how much you smoke. Some strains have low ceilings. No matter how much of it you smoke, you won't get any higher.
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: healing]
#18942920 - 10/06/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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healing said:
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psilocybinjunkie said: Weed is not like tripping tob e perfectly honest. It has some trippy effects, but it isn't like eating a real dose and going into orbit. The psychedelic label it has I don't really agree with, but whatever. It can be a bit trippy for sure, but nothing like 5 grams of shrooms etc.
This is not true for me. Weed makes me trip out just as hard as acid or mushrooms.
It depends on the strain and how much you smoke. Some strains have low ceilings. No matter how much of it you smoke, you won't get any higher.
Can you explain to me how your "trip" on cannabis is Its very hard for me to describe mine
yet, ive seen some people here slightly describe it similar to my experiences
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: SeattleBlue]
#18942938 - 10/06/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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healing said:
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psilocybinjunkie said: Weed is not like tripping tob e perfectly honest. It has some trippy effects, but it isn't like eating a real dose and going into orbit. The psychedelic label it has I don't really agree with, but whatever. It can be a bit trippy for sure, but nothing like 5 grams of shrooms etc.
This is not true for me. Weed makes me trip out just as hard as acid or mushrooms.
It depends on the strain and how much you smoke. Some strains have low ceilings. No matter how much of it you smoke, you won't get any higher.
Can you explain to me how your "trip" on cannabis is Its very hard for me to describe mine
yet, ive seen some people here slightly describe it similar to my experiences
I feel the initial effects of the cannabis. I feel like everything is slowed down a little, my thoughts become more convoluted and intricate. As I continue smoking everything slows down so much that I no longer see continuous motion. It's like a lagging video game. I see in snapshots, like a slideshow.
I start to loose my ability to identify objects. I can't see what my pipe actually looks like. It changes from one type of pipe to another as I look at it. I don't known that I'm smoking weed, for the most part. I realize what's going on around me every once in a while, so I find myself smoking weed right when I finish toking. Then I forget that I'm smoking again.
I get further and further from reality. I begin to hallucinate full, three dimensional worlds when my eyes are closed.
If I get high enough I completely lose touch with reality and become an omnidimensional being of light just before I reach ego death.
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Re: Achieving psychedelic effects with sweet mary jane [Re: healing]
#18942965 - 10/07/13 12:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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healing said:
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SeattleBlue said:
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healing said:
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psilocybinjunkie said: Weed is not like tripping tob e perfectly honest. It has some trippy effects, but it isn't like eating a real dose and going into orbit. The psychedelic label it has I don't really agree with, but whatever. It can be a bit trippy for sure, but nothing like 5 grams of shrooms etc.
This is not true for me. Weed makes me trip out just as hard as acid or mushrooms.
It depends on the strain and how much you smoke. Some strains have low ceilings. No matter how much of it you smoke, you won't get any higher.
Can you explain to me how your "trip" on cannabis is Its very hard for me to describe mine
yet, ive seen some people here slightly describe it similar to my experiences
I feel the initial effects of the cannabis. I feel like everything is slowed down a little, my thoughts become more convoluted and intricate. As I continue smoking everything slows down so much that I no longer see continuous motion. It's like a lagging video game. I see in snapshots, like a slideshow.
I start to loose my ability to identify objects. I can't see what my pipe actually looks like. It changes from one type of pipe to another as I look at it. I don't known that I'm smoking weed, for the most part. I realize what's going on around me every once in a while, so I find myself smoking weed right when I finish toking. Then I forget that I'm smoking again.
I get further and further from reality. I begin to hallucinate full, three dimensional worlds when my eyes are closed.
If I get high enough I completely lose touch with reality and become an omnidimensional being of light just before I reach ego death.
The Lagging Videogame is fucking SPOT-ON
For me, Its like my thoughts are projected onto my vision in that strobe like effect (not really color, but an illusion of color kind of what you get when you look at the sun then close your eyes, you can still see the light with your eyes closed)
but my thoughts are going so fast and my short-term memory is so off its like gold slipping through my fingers
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