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Does money buy happiness?
#18942811 - 10/06/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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When choosing majors, should I choose something I am genuinely interested in? Or something that earns the big bucks?
At the end of the day, is the rich man happy? Or is does he die a pathetic death choking on his own vomit and expensive scotch?
Or is the poor guy happy? The dead broke psychologist who wants to pursue his passion? (Thats me)
I was thinking of doing something halfway, thats interesting and yet not too boring. like bio chem
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
#18942818 - 10/06/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Go for a genuine interest.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Icelander]
#18942830 - 10/06/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was pretty sure I wanted to do something like psych as a major and minor in comp sci or double major, throwing in biochem. Comp sci and biochem are damn interesting but not my passion
After a little research: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/money-buy-happiness-article-1.1458890
But could one argue that correlationdoes not mean causation
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
#18942863 - 10/06/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I heard a study about this on NPR (National Public Radio) in Dallas, and I'm pretty sure they said people that make $80,000 are the happiest. They said after that it drops down a little and then stays the same. Even up to multi millionairs and shit. So. Yeah. Pick the best job you love that pays $80,000 a year.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
#18942881 - 10/06/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yip. That artical says $75,000 a year. I was close!
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
#18942924 - 10/06/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think money buys things that can distract someone from their unhappiness so yes, IMO it does buy happiness. ..Though temporary and in reliance of material things.
For me, (since I don't have money to buy lavish things yet) passion in something also goes a long way to bring happiness.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: huffinglue]
#18942928 - 10/06/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes, but people don't realize u don't need money to be happy
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Fuckspice]
#18943060 - 10/07/13 12:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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But you do need money if you want to live privately in any sense with a shelter and food.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Withinity]
#18943237 - 10/07/13 02:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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For real dude. You think your 'free'? Try goin somewhere with no fucking money. We'll see how free you are then.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: huffinglue]
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huffinglue said: For real dude. You think your 'free'? Try goin somewhere with no fucking money. We'll see how free you are then.
exactly. There are two forces constantly pulling at me. one wants to do busiess and finance. Other wants psychology
But all the lgoic in world tells me to do psychology
I guess I willdo psychology and biochem. Both I would expect would be near the 80,000$ range
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
#18943752 - 10/07/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Money can buys drugs and hookers if that makes you happy then maybe it does. 
Usually money buys security and comfort not happiness.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: AWS]
#18943759 - 10/07/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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AWS said: Money can buys drugs and hookers if that makes you happy then maybe it does. 
Usually money buys security and comfort not happiness.
The only drugs I want to be doing in one year are weed and caffiene. I want to remove drugs from my life ASAP. My future, I hope, will be drug free
Also, material shit doesn't exactly make me happy. But I dont wwant to live in a rut. I want the best for my future kids in terms of education and whatnot. And have money for liesurely activities
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
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Happiness really doesn't come from money. It really doesn't. Happiness is actually not really the goal in the end, it's higher consciousness. Use lots and lots of mushrooms and meditate a lot (no thought) and try to expand your mind by experiencing new things.
It's all about consciousness. That's where the good life lies. No millionaire has shit on someone in a kind of wonderland. We've been duped, society dupes everyone. The things which expand and refine consciousness and show us what we're missing are illegal, and instead we're supposed to play in some culture game which leads nowhere.
And all you have to do is get your mind right, it co-creates everything. Once you have got your mind figured out you will be able to be happy at will and that will morph and transform the reality around you into what you are feeling. Go for joy, love and wonder and see what you discover.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: circastes]
#18952493 - 10/09/13 12:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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In my experience as a broke philosophy major now working a low-paying job at a headshop... go for your passion. So much more fulfilling. I would be no happier slaving away at a shitty job for more money than I am now, working a relatively easy job, having plenty of time to write, and hanging out with my friends.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
#18952806 - 10/09/13 04:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Personally I'd rather make $1000 a month doing what I love and working for myself, if that option didn't exist I would just hobo off to Alaska or sell drugs.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: NetDiver]
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Repertoire89 said: Personally I'd rather make $1000 a month doing what I love and working for myself, if that option didn't exist I would just hobo off to Alaska or sell drugs.
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Samurai Drifter said: In my experience as a broke philosophy major now working a low-paying job at a headshop... go for your passion. So much more fulfilling. I would be no happier slaving away at a shitty job for more money than I am now, working a relatively easy job, having plenty of time to write, and hanging out with my friends.
Thanks. This is exacly what I wanted. Firsthand experience in the same situation
Good luck to both of you in this job market
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
#18954365 - 10/09/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree with Icelander. I know some real assholes with money. One personal injury attorney's wife left him after 13 years and 3 kids. He gave her the smaller $400K house, almost $4K a month alimony, and a million dollars in cash! He kept going through gold-digging women, like the blonde Russian babe he bought a boob job for, a BMW, paid for law school, took around Europe, and she split. She was probably an ex-whore (her vibes were hard-bitten, cynical, atheist, and Soviet), but he makes millions. He is completely dismissive of his own psychedelic experiences and says things like "I NEED a high-performance car." Of course he does (I laughed at him). He needs all kinds of props and the women still dump him.
My wife had a couple of friends who were trust-fund babies and only worked to alleviate their boredom. The female started sleeping with her 'best friend's' boyfriend, and exposed her breasts to me and another guy when our wives were out of the room. The former male friend of my wife's visited us to watch a movie, and he over-stayed his visit. At 2 am, he asked my wife to come over and sit on his lap. She and I looked at one another, and it was so bizarre, we couldn't even laugh. I just walked him to the door and told him it was time to leave. He had enough money to buy a nice house for cash, but he couldn't find an available partner. Suffice to say, both these people are history. They both didn't have to work, could live where they wanted, move around, and both were dysfunctional assholes too.
I only made $76,300 a year (well 212 work days per year) when I lost my job, and that's with 30 years of experience and a doctorate. But I am not derisive, dismissive, arrogant and selfish like my brother-the-lawyer who makes somewhere in the mid six figure range. He has treated me so poorly that I stopped taking his phone calls, and now I have nothing to do with him. Regardless of his bank account, here is a man who when I called him in a panic for some legal advice when my former marriage failed said to me, "I don't want to get involved in your personal problems." When I phoned him to say that I had just left our mother at the hospital, where she died, he asked me "Do you know where she put the diamond ring that she promised my son?" There is more, but I've made my point, which is "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" - Mark 8:36. Follow your bliss, but establish a secure financial foundation. Security is a 1st chakra concern, but without it, the rest of your life (sex, sufficient social status, ability to help others, space to seek and expand, etc.) will suffer. YOU will suffer. Just do not acquire your security on the backs of others. One doesn't need to be rich but one doesn't need to me poor either. The Middle Way, may mean middle class values.
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MarkostheGnostic said: I agree with Icelander. I know some real assholes with money. One personal injury attorney's wife left him after 13 years and 3 kids. He gave her the smaller $400K house, almost $4K a month alimony, and a million dollars in cash! He kept going through gold-digging women, like the blonde Russian babe he bought a boob job for, a BMW, paid for law school, took around Europe, and she split. She was probably an ex-whore (her vibes were hard-bitten, cynical, atheist, and Soviet), but he makes millions. He is completely dismissive of his own psychedelic experiences and says things like "I NEED a high-performance car." Of course he does (I laughed at him). He needs all kinds of props and the women still dump him.
My wife had a couple of friends who were trust-fund babies and only worked to alleviate their boredom. The female started sleeping with her 'best friend's' boyfriend, and exposed her breasts to me and another guy when our wives were out of the room. The former male friend of my wife's visited us to watch a movie, and he over-stayed his visit. At 2 am, he asked my wife to come over and sit on his lap. She and I looked at one another, and it was so bizarre, we couldn't even laugh. I just walked him to the door and told him it was time to leave. He had enough money to buy a nice house for cash, but he couldn't find an available partner. Suffice to say, both these people are history. They both didn't have to work, could live where they wanted, move around, and both were dysfunctional assholes too.
I only made $76,300 a year (well 212 work days per year) when I lost my job, and that's with 30 years of experience and a doctorate. But I am not derisive, dismissive, arrogant and selfish like my brother-the-lawyer who makes somewhere in the mid six figure range. He has treated me so poorly that I stopped taking his phone calls, and now I have nothing to do with him. Regardless of his bank account, here is a man who when I called him in a panic for some legal advice when my former marriage failed said to me, "I don't want to get involved in your personal problems." When I phoned him to say that I had just left our mother at the hospital, where she died, he asked me "Do you know where she put the diamond ring that she promised my son?" There is more, but I've made my point, which is "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" - Mark 8:36. Follow your bliss, but establish a secure financial foundation. Security is a 1st chakra concern, but without it, the rest of your life (sex, sufficient social status, ability to help others, space to seek and expand, etc.) will suffer. YOU will suffer. Just do not acquire your security on the backs of others. One doesn't need to be rich but one doesn't need to me poor either. The Middle Way, may mean middle class values.
I was just going to bring up the whole viewpoint of the middle path
Mark, once again. Always giving me deep insight that I couldn't have seen on my own. A truly valuebale shroomerite
Also, I see people like that all the time. It is almost eerie because I have a buddy who is going to clearly be a millionare but is a depressed waste of life due to opiate and alcohol addiction
And yes I want a house. I dont know if I want kids. maybe a ice place to pickup some hobbies. but in the long term there isnt much I really do with money these days. My bills are split between rent, weed ($20 a month), and food. There really isnt much more I want out of life and I figure that I shouldn't become obsssesed with material pleasures
A question to think about: is it the money that makes these people fucked in the head? Or is them? You see, I have freinds that seem exactly like the types to ask someone else's wife to sit on their lap. Completely bizzare behavior and driven to insanity and delusion with thier imaginary concept of "self". But I am 19 and I see my friends growing like this. I don't want to be arrogant, but I feel like I a can see the "dysfunctional assholes" in the making
I will return to this post later and read it over. If I dont make sense, I apologize, I am incredibly stoned
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
#18956946 - 10/09/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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topdog82 said: When choosing majors, should I choose something I am genuinely interested in? Or something that earns the big bucks?
At the end of the day, is the rich man happy? Or is does he die a pathetic death choking on his own vomit and expensive scotch?
Or is the poor guy happy? The dead broke psychologist who wants to pursue his passion? (Thats me)
I was thinking of doing something halfway, thats interesting and yet not too boring. like bio chem
Yes,
Money buys happiness. You dumb cunts.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
#18956956 - 10/09/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Money buys more
but then you want more, and more , constant craving 
money is usually the opposite of happiness
happiness is from being yourself only, then you need nothing less is more, more appreciation
I used to earn lots of money, but I never was happy doing it, and it destroyed my health the more you have the less you appreciate what you have often
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
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A LOT of money can fuck people up. It inflates the ego. People come out of the woodwork. I myself felt like contacting the step-mom of a friend who left the USA years ago in a search for him. Then I read that she just won, after 16 years of fighting, a $19 million wrongful death suit for her late son. My sincere search for her son was intruded into by thoughts of telling her a hard-luck story. You see she was recommended for the position I just lost after 12 years. When her son was killed in a crash (ostensibly crossing the state to buy a bunch of acid), she lost it, and I got the position. I'm not usually affected my money thoughts so this was poignant. I haven't phoned her yet. Of course natural born assholes with money are much more obnoxious than assholes without the extra energy (money is "green energy" as BE HERE NOW put it).
I wanted to impress that as we get older, we lose energy, we tire, things become more expensive. My step-daughter began making as much her first year in HR as I made after 20+ years at my job. My former full professor who directed my dissertation retired from University of Maryland in 1983 making $30K a year after 24 years! Your needs and desires will hopefully change as you mature. I have seen cannabis totally retard the social, sexual, and professional life of an old friend who got into a better college, who was on the track team in high school, and today he is a lonely stoner-drunk who is 250 lbs. of flab with a bum leg, who still works 2 entry level jobs, was never married, never owned his own home. But these are my values. I always wanted a house. Mine is 2nd hand, and it was cool by 1979 standards (which are still my standards).
You must not allow stoning to become another "opiate of the people" that keeps you down. If you want to be of use to yourself and a significant other, you have to plan and save, while living as fully in the present as is possible. I surprisingly inherited a sum of money that allowed me to pay off my mortgage early, saving tens of thousands of dollars, which I invested, and which I will begin to draw upon in 2014. It's not about opulence, but "material pleasures" include my first new sound system in 35 years!! It's not about status, or showing off for me, it's about continuing to do what I enjoyed doing when I was 19. Some things never change. I'm watching the Pink Floyd on the flat screen, with their music coming through a Marantz tuner and Polk Audio speakers. I just don't use cannabis anymore, but then again, I don't need it or want it. Just sipping some Bota Box Zinfandel.
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Saving up money is a good idea, even if you have very little money
Instead of spending them on quick-buying or useless things, save them up for later where you might actually need something / something unforeseen
Economic stability is nice, debt isn't
And if you save your money for later you are not attached to it, as if you went and bought stuff right away
I like hifi too, hope to get a large house one day out in the country where I can have a good hifi setup / home cinema like I used to and also where I can keep lots of birds and cats/a dog :-), and generally feel relaxed since I'm pretty sensitive to noise
Own place to live + a little savings money is a good investment as long as you don't buy an expensive house so you have to work your ass off all your life in fear of losing it, should fit the economy :-)
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The dead broke psychologist who wants to pursue his passion? (Thats me)
Ah, hello fellow psychology enthusiast!
I am studying psychology right now. I have many ideas about experiments and soon I will have my chance to attempt them. I am excited. I maintain I would like to work in the field of research as opposed to clinical psychology or therapy.
Do you experiment?
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: lessismore]
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You have my agreement in all points!
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: XUL]
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The dead broke psychologist who wants to pursue his passion? (Thats me)
Ah, hello fellow psychology enthusiast!
I am studying psychology right now. I have many ideas about experiments and soon I will have my chance to attempt them. I am excited. I maintain I would like to work in the field of research as opposed to clinical psychology or therapy.
Do you experiment?
Yes, I experiment on myself!
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
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topdog82 said: When choosing majors, should I choose something I am genuinely interested in? Or something that earns the big bucks?
I've seen people who chose something they were genuinely interested in, became rich as a result, and were still just as unhappy. 
All I can say with conviction is that if you try to use financial prowess as a basis for your sense of self-worth, you will likely never feel like you have enough.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Memories]
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mio said: Saving up money is a good idea, even if you have very little money
Instead of spending them on quick-buying or useless things, save them up for later where you might actually need something / something unforeseen
Economic stability is nice, debt isn't
And if you save your money for later you are not attached to it, as if you went and bought stuff right away
I like hifi too, hope to get a large house one day out in the country where I can have a good hifi setup / home cinema like I used to and also where I can keep lots of birds and cats/a dog :-), and generally feel relaxed since I'm pretty sensitive to noise
Own place to live + a little savings money is a good investment as long as you don't buy an expensive house so you have to work your ass off all your life in fear of losing it, should fit the economy :-)
The Golden Middleway 
Yeah. I figure with a masters in psychology and maybe a minor in biology, comp sci, history or soemthing interesting like that, theres very little chance that I will be in debt
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MarkostheGnostic said: A LOT of money can fuck people up. It inflates the ego. People come out of the woodwork. I myself felt like contacting the step-mom of a friend who left the USA years ago in a search for him. Then I read that she just won, after 16 years of fighting, a $19 million wrongful death suit for her late son. My sincere search for her son was intruded into by thoughts of telling her a hard-luck story. You see she was recommended for the position I just lost after 12 years. When her son was killed in a crash (ostensibly crossing the state to buy a bunch of acid), she lost it, and I got the position. I'm not usually affected my money thoughts so this was poignant. I haven't phoned her yet. Of course natural born assholes with money are much more obnoxious than assholes without the extra energy (money is "green energy" as BE HERE NOW put it).
I wanted to impress that as we get older, we lose energy, we tire, things become more expensive. My step-daughter began making as much her first year in HR as I made after 20+ years at my job. My former full professor who directed my dissertation retired from University of Maryland in 1983 making $30K a year after 24 years! Your needs and desires will hopefully change as you mature. I have seen cannabis totally retard the social, sexual, and professional life of an old friend who got into a better college, who was on the track team in high school, and today he is a lonely stoner-drunk who is 250 lbs. of flab with a bum leg, who still works 2 entry level jobs, was never married, never owned his own home. But these are my values. I always wanted a house. Mine is 2nd hand, and it was cool by 1979 standards (which are still my standards).
You must not allow stoning to become another "opiate of the people" that keeps you down. If you want to be of use to yourself and a significant other, you have to plan and save, while living as fully in the present as is possible. I surprisingly inherited a sum of money that allowed me to pay off my mortgage early, saving tens of thousands of dollars, which I invested, and which I will begin to draw upon in 2014. It's not about opulence, but "material pleasures" include my first new sound system in 35 years!! It's not about status, or showing off for me, it's about continuing to do what I enjoyed doing when I was 19. Some things never change. I'm watching the Pink Floyd on the flat screen, with their music coming through a Marantz tuner and Polk Audio speakers. I just don't use cannabis anymore, but then again, I don't need it or want it. Just sipping some Bota Box Zinfandel. 
I dont exactly understand. what you are trying to get at. To clarify, as you get old your taste gets more expensive? Because your daughter is in HR, and if i remember correctly that pays quite some bucks? I see the irony in that, but I am missing the connection to your age. If you worked in HR, you could have made as much as her
And yes. I shouldn't vape weed. I kno that it is bad for me. But I need some time to myself otherwise I will go insane. I work and study long hours. And the thing which lets me wind down at the end ofa long day is a couple of vape hits, and a book. I figure if I were vegatating on the couch that would be worse. But if I channel my stoned energy into something, I feel that it is worthwhile
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The dead broke psychologist who wants to pursue his passion? (Thats me)
Ah, hello fellow psychology enthusiast!
I am studying psychology right now. I have many ideas about experiments and soon I will have my chance to attempt them. I am excited. I maintain I would like to work in the field of research as opposed to clinical psychology or therapy.
Do you experiment?
Yes, I experiment on myself! 
I am not exacly sure what I want to do within psych. I have taken 4 psych classes and liked em all. I have done 1 year of college and a couple classes at my local community college as a high schooler. So far, psychology absolutely fascinates me. My father is considering helping me pay for my college tuition. As long as I have a set major. Other fam members helped support my cousin for college. He switch his major around 4 times and spent 6 years in college. 3 of them were an absoltue waste. That is why I am pressured to decide qick. The adults in my family doubt I will stick to it. And doubt the money they are investing in my college will be worth if I take up a less employable like psychology over engineering, comp sci or business
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topdog82 said: When choosing majors, should I choose something I am genuinely interested in? Or something that earns the big bucks?
I've seen people who chose something they were genuinely interested in, became rich as a result, and were still just as unhappy. 
All I can say with conviction is that if you try to use financial prowess as a basis for your sense of self-worth, you will likely never feel like you have enough.
Yes this is waht I was triyng to get at. Thnks for your opinion and insight
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
#18962237 - 10/11/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah man, it's a generational thing. Each new generation seems to be in a place where they begin making the salary that was the top end salary for the preceding generation. Inflation. When I was in high school a Corvette Stingray cost $6000. When I was in college a rich girlfriend had a 2-door Mercedes convertible that cost $10,000 brand new, while my brand new Fiat 850 Spider cost a mere $2400. I bought my house in 1996 for $130,000 and during the real estate 'bubble,' I could've sold it for well over $300,000. Now it can sell for just under $300K. My parents house cost $21,000 in 1955. 30 years later they sold it for $150,00. A couple of years ago it sold for $460,000. Planning. You need to find a career that is marketable, not merely interesting. I stayed in the same position of a school system for almost 30 years but those days are over for your generation. I lucked out with an unexpected windfall of inherited money, but I also saved like a son-of-a-bitch, unlike many of my peers who want to live large but are in pathetically paying positions in education. Now they're looking at taking social security at the earliest time which is a poor choice IMO, but they NEED the money 'cause they didn't plan ahead.
Psychologists have to be business men or women. You have to scramble for insurance company endorsements. You need to 'know' people, and play business games. It's not all about being a helper or growing into sage hood. I'm glad that I don't have to struggle at this point, but I made some grievous errors whir following my bliss. Take counsel from people who are already in the field and are willing to help you. Seek out such counsel, your financial future depends on it, and hence your freedom to choose. And no, I was not in HR. Frankly, I have no idea what the girl actually does every day. I do know that it pays a whole lot better than what I was doing, but I worked from 8:30-3:50, 212 days out of 365.25, and that's what mattered much more than 2-3 weeks of vacation after 15 or 20 years. My brother is a lawyer who makes money in the mid six figures. He works to 9 at night, he's 4 years younger than me but looks 10 years older. He's a fat cat and a jerk, partly by training partly by temperament. We all make our choices. Choose wisely.
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All this talk of "money". And "owning" your house. Paying it off.
Bad news. As long as the taxman is around, and can take your house for not paying "property taxes" you NEVER own it. NEVER.
I convert the meaningless paper dollars that the jackal tax men couldn't steal from me outright or by devaluation over time into fixer uppers. My "happiness" if there is any is after spending five years dealing with other people's damaging filthy lifestyles I create VALUE. Real value. Not idiot pieces of paper that the bank can hold from me when they go on holiday.
And they will go on Holiday. OP worried about his major, and how much "money" he will make doing some mainstream job. Frankly I'm disgusted with myself for having been put through there regime and still somehow thinking it has any merit. If "they" the gov weren't involved in literally virtually every aspect of our lives, perhaps our lives wouldn't revolve around their program of "making money" that they fabricated literally out of thin air.
Besides who wants to die in Florida? It'll all be underwater soon enough, those watery graves will be harder to visit without scuba gear.
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of course money buys happiness. If someone paid me to eliminate your family it would register to you,.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Jaegar]
#18962429 - 10/11/13 02:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jaegar said: of course money buys happiness. If someone paid me to eliminate your family it would register to you,.
You would just be scammed. They are mostly dead, and if you ever came close to the living one you would be too.
Comprende?
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No i do not.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Jaegar]
#18962466 - 10/11/13 02:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jaegar said: No i do not.
Figures. Well if saying stupid shit like you are going to kill my family makes you happy I'm not surprised. Internet tough guy, right?
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Your generating motive where there is none. But if i was paid a attractive sum without retribution I would probably execute it.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Jaegar]
#18962586 - 10/11/13 04:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Only if if was sanctioned.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Jaegar]
#18962729 - 10/11/13 06:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Watch this one a few times, it'll start making sense:
-------------------- Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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Hell I never made more than 25 grand in a year and yet I'm rich imo. I retired at 55 and own everything and owe nothing and have plenty to get by and be content with. I'm living the fucking good life on a budget that would make most people think they were miserable.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Icelander]
#18963222 - 10/11/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im juist a merc I dont care about love bunnies or dusters.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Icelander]
#18963417 - 10/11/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Miami is expensive as Hell. I just got my yearly homeowner's insurance renewal. $4500!!! My wife dickers with them every year. My best hope is to get it down under $4000, maybe $3800. Wind-storm is the biggest. I had to replace my roof 3 years ago. Much of the plywood had to be pulled up. The roofer was a quality company, well respected down here. He estimated a $1000 wood bill. It came to $5000 on top of the $17,000 roof! Am I painting a picture?
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My home owners is more like $350 and I don't even have to pay for it myself. I do the grounds work for the 4 unit condo assoc. I and some friends created so that and all the outside house maintenance is payed by our monthly dues fund which I don't have to pay. We just painted the houses and put on new roof at no cost to me.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Icelander]
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It seems utterly insane that I continue to live here at these costs. The roof could be good for 30+ years I'm assured, unless a Category 5 hurricane like Andrew blows through. I bought 'Dimension' shingles rated at 130 mph. A stronger metal roof would've been $50K. But the homeowner's insurance is obscenely expensive. Fortunately we're not in a flood zone, so no flood insurance needed. If we leave Citizens Insurance, which is the default company, they won't take us back, but I just got a flier in the mail for another company, and I'm going to fill it out. I only have until November 22 (the day I moved in 17 years ago, JFK's and Aldous Huxley's death days too, so I can always remember). The weather is finally getting livable down here. Summers are like living on Venus, except for the sulfuric acid atmosphere. It was hotter in the parking lot at the supermarket than it was in equatorial Nigeria when we returned from there in July one year. Besides the melanoma that could've killed me, the basal cell carcinoma last year, and my cataract surgery, someone needs to remind me why I still live in the Sunshine State. Oh yeah, no snow shoveling related heart attacks. But, we have hurricanes, tornadoes, an earthquake in the Gulf a couple years ago, floods, every variety of poisonous snake that lives in North America, the biggest alligators you've ever seen, and some crocodiles and caimans, the biggest constricting snakes you could imagine, 4 foot long iguanas that shit human-sized turds of the palm trees into the pool, raccoons that shit on the pool steps, and the snakes, rats, and frogs that come out of the toilets in your house. We had the latter two.
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Somebodies got to live there.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Icelander]
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Yeah, 'Swamp Thing.'
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MarkostheGnostic said: Yeah man, it's a generational thing. Each new generation seems to be in a place where they begin making the salary that was the top end salary for the preceding generation. Inflation. When I was in high school a Corvette Stingray cost $6000. When I was in college a rich girlfriend had a 2-door Mercedes convertible that cost $10,000 brand new, while my brand new Fiat 850 Spider cost a mere $2400. I bought my house in 1996 for $130,000 and during the real estate 'bubble,' I could've sold it for well over $300,000. Now it can sell for just under $300K. My parents house cost $21,000 in 1955. 30 years later they sold it for $150,00. A couple of years ago it sold for $460,000. Planning. You need to find a career that is marketable, not merely interesting. I stayed in the same position of a school system for almost 30 years but those days are over for your generation. I lucked out with an unexpected windfall of inherited money, but I also saved like a son-of-a-bitch, unlike many of my peers who want to live large but are in pathetically paying positions in education. Now they're looking at taking social security at the earliest time which is a poor choice IMO, but they NEED the money 'cause they didn't plan ahead.
Psychologists have to be business men or women. You have to scramble for insurance company endorsements. You need to 'know' people, and play business games. It's not all about being a helper or growing into sage hood. I'm glad that I don't have to struggle at this point, but I made some grievous errors whir following my bliss. Take counsel from people who are already in the field and are willing to help you. Seek out such counsel, your financial future depends on it, and hence your freedom to choose. And no, I was not in HR. Frankly, I have no idea what the girl actually does every day. I do know that it pays a whole lot better than what I was doing, but I worked from 8:30-3:50, 212 days out of 365.25, and that's what mattered much more than 2-3 weeks of vacation after 15 or 20 years. My brother is a lawyer who makes money in the mid six figures. He works to 9 at night, he's 4 years younger than me but looks 10 years older. He's a fat cat and a jerk, partly by training partly by temperament. We all make our choices. Choose wisely.
1) I def see what you are saying about that now. I think eahc generation learns from theprevious generations lessons/mistakes and then improves on them. Each time getting a little more oppurtunity 2) And yeah. Now it is all startingto make sense. I guess once you start to become money-oriented you start to lose sight of what actually makes you happy and fullfills you
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
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My buddy asked me what I would do if I had a billions dollars. It really got me thinking. I wrote a list of what I would do in life if I hypothtically inherited money:
1) Finish psychology degree 2) Work as a clinical psychologist 3) Buy a house in Santa Cruz or somehwere in calfornia thats very green 4) Meet a woman, get a cute dog (not sure if I wanna get married. But lets assume I do) 5) two kids 6) retire at some point. Lose my myself to hobbies. Meditate. Medicate
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Spacerific]
#18968348 - 10/12/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Spacerific said: Watch this one a few times, it'll start making sense:
This video is so simple yet so insightful. It really makes you think and put things into perspective
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
#18969080 - 10/12/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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topdog82 said: My buddy asked me what I would do if I had a billions dollars. It really got me thinking. I wrote a list of what I would do in life if I hypothtically inherited money:
1) Finish psychology degree 2) Work as a clinical psychologist 3) Buy a house in Santa Cruz or somehwere in calfornia thats very green 4) Meet a woman, get a cute dog (not sure if I wanna get married. But lets assume I do) 5) two kids 6) retire at some point. Lose my myself to hobbies. Meditate. Medicate
1) Requires billions? 2) Really? If you had billions? I'm so sure. 3) Maybe a really really big house 4) You can do this now, better than you will if you are rich. 5) You can do this now, better than you will as a rich person. 6) You can do all this now other than the retirement. Plus I thought you wanted to be a working billionaire.
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