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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
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A LOT of money can fuck people up. It inflates the ego. People come out of the woodwork. I myself felt like contacting the step-mom of a friend who left the USA years ago in a search for him. Then I read that she just won, after 16 years of fighting, a $19 million wrongful death suit for her late son. My sincere search for her son was intruded into by thoughts of telling her a hard-luck story. You see she was recommended for the position I just lost after 12 years. When her son was killed in a crash (ostensibly crossing the state to buy a bunch of acid), she lost it, and I got the position. I'm not usually affected my money thoughts so this was poignant. I haven't phoned her yet. Of course natural born assholes with money are much more obnoxious than assholes without the extra energy (money is "green energy" as BE HERE NOW put it).
I wanted to impress that as we get older, we lose energy, we tire, things become more expensive. My step-daughter began making as much her first year in HR as I made after 20+ years at my job. My former full professor who directed my dissertation retired from University of Maryland in 1983 making $30K a year after 24 years! Your needs and desires will hopefully change as you mature. I have seen cannabis totally retard the social, sexual, and professional life of an old friend who got into a better college, who was on the track team in high school, and today he is a lonely stoner-drunk who is 250 lbs. of flab with a bum leg, who still works 2 entry level jobs, was never married, never owned his own home. But these are my values. I always wanted a house. Mine is 2nd hand, and it was cool by 1979 standards (which are still my standards).
You must not allow stoning to become another "opiate of the people" that keeps you down. If you want to be of use to yourself and a significant other, you have to plan and save, while living as fully in the present as is possible. I surprisingly inherited a sum of money that allowed me to pay off my mortgage early, saving tens of thousands of dollars, which I invested, and which I will begin to draw upon in 2014. It's not about opulence, but "material pleasures" include my first new sound system in 35 years!! It's not about status, or showing off for me, it's about continuing to do what I enjoyed doing when I was 19. Some things never change. I'm watching the Pink Floyd on the flat screen, with their music coming through a Marantz tuner and Polk Audio speakers. I just don't use cannabis anymore, but then again, I don't need it or want it. Just sipping some Bota Box Zinfandel.
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Saving up money is a good idea, even if you have very little money
Instead of spending them on quick-buying or useless things, save them up for later where you might actually need something / something unforeseen
Economic stability is nice, debt isn't
And if you save your money for later you are not attached to it, as if you went and bought stuff right away
I like hifi too, hope to get a large house one day out in the country where I can have a good hifi setup / home cinema like I used to and also where I can keep lots of birds and cats/a dog :-), and generally feel relaxed since I'm pretty sensitive to noise
Own place to live + a little savings money is a good investment as long as you don't buy an expensive house so you have to work your ass off all your life in fear of losing it, should fit the economy :-)
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The dead broke psychologist who wants to pursue his passion? (Thats me)
Ah, hello fellow psychology enthusiast!
I am studying psychology right now. I have many ideas about experiments and soon I will have my chance to attempt them. I am excited. I maintain I would like to work in the field of research as opposed to clinical psychology or therapy.
Do you experiment?
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: lessismore]
#18958541 - 10/10/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You have my agreement in all points!
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: XUL]
#18958546 - 10/10/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The dead broke psychologist who wants to pursue his passion? (Thats me)
Ah, hello fellow psychology enthusiast!
I am studying psychology right now. I have many ideas about experiments and soon I will have my chance to attempt them. I am excited. I maintain I would like to work in the field of research as opposed to clinical psychology or therapy.
Do you experiment?
Yes, I experiment on myself!
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
#18959838 - 10/10/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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topdog82 said: When choosing majors, should I choose something I am genuinely interested in? Or something that earns the big bucks?
I've seen people who chose something they were genuinely interested in, became rich as a result, and were still just as unhappy. 
All I can say with conviction is that if you try to use financial prowess as a basis for your sense of self-worth, you will likely never feel like you have enough.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Memories]
#18961924 - 10/10/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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mio said: Saving up money is a good idea, even if you have very little money
Instead of spending them on quick-buying or useless things, save them up for later where you might actually need something / something unforeseen
Economic stability is nice, debt isn't
And if you save your money for later you are not attached to it, as if you went and bought stuff right away
I like hifi too, hope to get a large house one day out in the country where I can have a good hifi setup / home cinema like I used to and also where I can keep lots of birds and cats/a dog :-), and generally feel relaxed since I'm pretty sensitive to noise
Own place to live + a little savings money is a good investment as long as you don't buy an expensive house so you have to work your ass off all your life in fear of losing it, should fit the economy :-)
The Golden Middleway 
Yeah. I figure with a masters in psychology and maybe a minor in biology, comp sci, history or soemthing interesting like that, theres very little chance that I will be in debt
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MarkostheGnostic said: A LOT of money can fuck people up. It inflates the ego. People come out of the woodwork. I myself felt like contacting the step-mom of a friend who left the USA years ago in a search for him. Then I read that she just won, after 16 years of fighting, a $19 million wrongful death suit for her late son. My sincere search for her son was intruded into by thoughts of telling her a hard-luck story. You see she was recommended for the position I just lost after 12 years. When her son was killed in a crash (ostensibly crossing the state to buy a bunch of acid), she lost it, and I got the position. I'm not usually affected my money thoughts so this was poignant. I haven't phoned her yet. Of course natural born assholes with money are much more obnoxious than assholes without the extra energy (money is "green energy" as BE HERE NOW put it).
I wanted to impress that as we get older, we lose energy, we tire, things become more expensive. My step-daughter began making as much her first year in HR as I made after 20+ years at my job. My former full professor who directed my dissertation retired from University of Maryland in 1983 making $30K a year after 24 years! Your needs and desires will hopefully change as you mature. I have seen cannabis totally retard the social, sexual, and professional life of an old friend who got into a better college, who was on the track team in high school, and today he is a lonely stoner-drunk who is 250 lbs. of flab with a bum leg, who still works 2 entry level jobs, was never married, never owned his own home. But these are my values. I always wanted a house. Mine is 2nd hand, and it was cool by 1979 standards (which are still my standards).
You must not allow stoning to become another "opiate of the people" that keeps you down. If you want to be of use to yourself and a significant other, you have to plan and save, while living as fully in the present as is possible. I surprisingly inherited a sum of money that allowed me to pay off my mortgage early, saving tens of thousands of dollars, which I invested, and which I will begin to draw upon in 2014. It's not about opulence, but "material pleasures" include my first new sound system in 35 years!! It's not about status, or showing off for me, it's about continuing to do what I enjoyed doing when I was 19. Some things never change. I'm watching the Pink Floyd on the flat screen, with their music coming through a Marantz tuner and Polk Audio speakers. I just don't use cannabis anymore, but then again, I don't need it or want it. Just sipping some Bota Box Zinfandel. 
I dont exactly understand. what you are trying to get at. To clarify, as you get old your taste gets more expensive? Because your daughter is in HR, and if i remember correctly that pays quite some bucks? I see the irony in that, but I am missing the connection to your age. If you worked in HR, you could have made as much as her
And yes. I shouldn't vape weed. I kno that it is bad for me. But I need some time to myself otherwise I will go insane. I work and study long hours. And the thing which lets me wind down at the end ofa long day is a couple of vape hits, and a book. I figure if I were vegatating on the couch that would be worse. But if I channel my stoned energy into something, I feel that it is worthwhile
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The dead broke psychologist who wants to pursue his passion? (Thats me)
Ah, hello fellow psychology enthusiast!
I am studying psychology right now. I have many ideas about experiments and soon I will have my chance to attempt them. I am excited. I maintain I would like to work in the field of research as opposed to clinical psychology or therapy.
Do you experiment?
Yes, I experiment on myself! 
I am not exacly sure what I want to do within psych. I have taken 4 psych classes and liked em all. I have done 1 year of college and a couple classes at my local community college as a high schooler. So far, psychology absolutely fascinates me. My father is considering helping me pay for my college tuition. As long as I have a set major. Other fam members helped support my cousin for college. He switch his major around 4 times and spent 6 years in college. 3 of them were an absoltue waste. That is why I am pressured to decide qick. The adults in my family doubt I will stick to it. And doubt the money they are investing in my college will be worth if I take up a less employable like psychology over engineering, comp sci or business
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topdog82 said: When choosing majors, should I choose something I am genuinely interested in? Or something that earns the big bucks?
I've seen people who chose something they were genuinely interested in, became rich as a result, and were still just as unhappy. 
All I can say with conviction is that if you try to use financial prowess as a basis for your sense of self-worth, you will likely never feel like you have enough.
Yes this is waht I was triyng to get at. Thnks for your opinion and insight
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: topdog82]
#18962237 - 10/11/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah man, it's a generational thing. Each new generation seems to be in a place where they begin making the salary that was the top end salary for the preceding generation. Inflation. When I was in high school a Corvette Stingray cost $6000. When I was in college a rich girlfriend had a 2-door Mercedes convertible that cost $10,000 brand new, while my brand new Fiat 850 Spider cost a mere $2400. I bought my house in 1996 for $130,000 and during the real estate 'bubble,' I could've sold it for well over $300,000. Now it can sell for just under $300K. My parents house cost $21,000 in 1955. 30 years later they sold it for $150,00. A couple of years ago it sold for $460,000. Planning. You need to find a career that is marketable, not merely interesting. I stayed in the same position of a school system for almost 30 years but those days are over for your generation. I lucked out with an unexpected windfall of inherited money, but I also saved like a son-of-a-bitch, unlike many of my peers who want to live large but are in pathetically paying positions in education. Now they're looking at taking social security at the earliest time which is a poor choice IMO, but they NEED the money 'cause they didn't plan ahead.
Psychologists have to be business men or women. You have to scramble for insurance company endorsements. You need to 'know' people, and play business games. It's not all about being a helper or growing into sage hood. I'm glad that I don't have to struggle at this point, but I made some grievous errors whir following my bliss. Take counsel from people who are already in the field and are willing to help you. Seek out such counsel, your financial future depends on it, and hence your freedom to choose. And no, I was not in HR. Frankly, I have no idea what the girl actually does every day. I do know that it pays a whole lot better than what I was doing, but I worked from 8:30-3:50, 212 days out of 365.25, and that's what mattered much more than 2-3 weeks of vacation after 15 or 20 years. My brother is a lawyer who makes money in the mid six figures. He works to 9 at night, he's 4 years younger than me but looks 10 years older. He's a fat cat and a jerk, partly by training partly by temperament. We all make our choices. Choose wisely.
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All this talk of "money". And "owning" your house. Paying it off.
Bad news. As long as the taxman is around, and can take your house for not paying "property taxes" you NEVER own it. NEVER.
I convert the meaningless paper dollars that the jackal tax men couldn't steal from me outright or by devaluation over time into fixer uppers. My "happiness" if there is any is after spending five years dealing with other people's damaging filthy lifestyles I create VALUE. Real value. Not idiot pieces of paper that the bank can hold from me when they go on holiday.
And they will go on Holiday. OP worried about his major, and how much "money" he will make doing some mainstream job. Frankly I'm disgusted with myself for having been put through there regime and still somehow thinking it has any merit. If "they" the gov weren't involved in literally virtually every aspect of our lives, perhaps our lives wouldn't revolve around their program of "making money" that they fabricated literally out of thin air.
Besides who wants to die in Florida? It'll all be underwater soon enough, those watery graves will be harder to visit without scuba gear.
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of course money buys happiness. If someone paid me to eliminate your family it would register to you,.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Jaegar]
#18962429 - 10/11/13 02:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jaegar said: of course money buys happiness. If someone paid me to eliminate your family it would register to you,.
You would just be scammed. They are mostly dead, and if you ever came close to the living one you would be too.
Comprende?
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No i do not.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Jaegar]
#18962466 - 10/11/13 02:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jaegar said: No i do not.
Figures. Well if saying stupid shit like you are going to kill my family makes you happy I'm not surprised. Internet tough guy, right?
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Your generating motive where there is none. But if i was paid a attractive sum without retribution I would probably execute it.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Jaegar]
#18962586 - 10/11/13 04:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Only if if was sanctioned.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Jaegar]
#18962729 - 10/11/13 06:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Watch this one a few times, it'll start making sense:
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For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it. - Matthew 13:16
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Hell I never made more than 25 grand in a year and yet I'm rich imo. I retired at 55 and own everything and owe nothing and have plenty to get by and be content with. I'm living the fucking good life on a budget that would make most people think they were miserable.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Icelander]
#18963222 - 10/11/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im juist a merc I dont care about love bunnies or dusters.
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Re: Does money buy happiness? [Re: Icelander]
#18963417 - 10/11/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Miami is expensive as Hell. I just got my yearly homeowner's insurance renewal. $4500!!! My wife dickers with them every year. My best hope is to get it down under $4000, maybe $3800. Wind-storm is the biggest. I had to replace my roof 3 years ago. Much of the plywood had to be pulled up. The roofer was a quality company, well respected down here. He estimated a $1000 wood bill. It came to $5000 on top of the $17,000 roof! Am I painting a picture?
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My home owners is more like $350 and I don't even have to pay for it myself. I do the grounds work for the 4 unit condo assoc. I and some friends created so that and all the outside house maintenance is payed by our monthly dues fund which I don't have to pay. We just painted the houses and put on new roof at no cost to me.
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