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OfflineDeviate
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I just look at human beings as miners
    #18942188 - 10/06/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Or prospectors. We are all mining for gold, that gold being peace and happiness.

We set up mines everywhere we go and then proceed to spend our life working them, cherishing each golden nugget of happiness that we extract.

What is religion? Religion is a map to the mother of all happiness deposits. Gently, it urges us to change the location of our mine and move it deep within our own hearts. That is the only place where we can find all the gold we want. All our worldly mines put together cannot produce as much gold as already exists down there.

What are saints? saints are people who have moved their mine within and begun extracting happiness from the heart. We can learn a lot from them.

Who is Christ? Christ is the consciousness one enters into when they give up mining for good, after realizing beyond all shadow of a doubt that the gold they are accustomed to working so hard for is actually their own being, or true self and they cannot be separated from it regardless of what happens to their mine and mining equipment.

That is how I see life.


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Re: I just look at human beings as miners [Re: Deviate]
    #18942245 - 10/06/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Religion is a map to the mother of all happiness deposits.
I see it quite differently.  I look at religion logically.  I see all the human and other animal misery it has caused along with the good. I see that it might well be a power trip of mans to take power and material goods away from others or a purely human way to deal with human death/impermanence  anxiety by promising eternal life.  I see most or all of the possibilities and so know that it is not by any means necessarily a map to the mother of all happiness.  I see way too many people illogically proselytizing for their chosen religion and often condemning the other religions claiming their way or the highway.  Or claiming those that are not religious are lost.  In other words I see the same human folly I see in most human institutions. And overall I don't see the religious being better off than the non religious.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: I just look at human beings as miners [Re: Icelander]
    #18942484 - 10/06/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The world is going to pretty much appear as whatever you see it as. If you choose to see it as alive with the love of God, it will eventually become so. So why not choose to see life through whatever your highest vision for it might be?


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Re: I just look at human beings as miners [Re: Deviate]
    #18942676 - 10/06/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Because I value truth and honesty. And no the world does not reflect only my views back to me. Remember I used to be a believing Christian.


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With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: I just look at human beings as miners [Re: Icelander]
    #18942702 - 10/06/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So make truth and honesty your highest vision.


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Re: I just look at human beings as miners [Re: Deviate]
    #18942833 - 10/06/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I do and it is.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: I just look at human beings as miners [Re: Icelander]
    #18944027 - 10/07/13 10:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
Remember I used to be a believing Christian.




^ That had to suck. It was easier converting from an atheist.


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Re: I just look at human beings as miners [Re: Yogi1]
    #18944634 - 10/07/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It did suck,
I didn't have much clue about my own reality or reality in general.  I was young and did my best to believe my programming.  It was hard because it wasn't really making sense and I never did really feel anything beyond emotionalism which I later realized was always going to be there no matter what I believed. Cognitive dissonance finally won out.  :shrug:

My guess now is that when a christian lets themselves get emotional after being shut down on expressing things like affection/love or fear etc. the ensuing relief at having permission to feel is mistaken for evidence of the holy spirit.  I saw it a lot where I grew up.


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