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Help!?!
    #18935479 - 10/05/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Amanita sect. Validae

Habitat:
In sandy soil from mixed woods with maple, beech, oak, pine and hemlock.

Gills:
Whitish, with flocculent edges. Short gills plentiful.

Stem:
Partial veil forms a large annulus that is white and striate on the upper surface and stains pinkish, becoming brownish on the underside. Stem covered with pinkish brown fibrils. Bulb subglobose, grayish with small clefts. Unadorned except for a few random patches of pulverulent, gray universal veil material.

Cap:
Gray universal veil covering a blushing cap. About 3" across for the newly opened one.

Spore print color:
None taken, but assuming white...

Bruising:
Blushes brick red everywhere.

Other information:
Apple-like. Not mushroomy at all...





When I first saw them in the evening shadows I thought they were Boletus chrysenteron.:lol:


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Re: Help!?! [Re: Bobzimmer]
    #18935502 - 10/05/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Is Amanita roseitincta in this section? I found some mushrooms under Pine here in GA that resemble yours, and passed them off as more A. roseitincta. Our weather has been dry and I figured they would look different with the warts having not been washed away.


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Help!?! [Re: Hashfinger]
    #18935512 - 10/05/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think that species makes it this far up north. A. roseitincta is in section Amanita. These are one of the "blushing" Amanitas. Thanks for the input!:thumbup:


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Re: Help!?! [Re: Bobzimmer]
    #18935514 - 10/05/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

But it is not in the rubescens grouping?


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Help!?! [Re: Hashfinger]
    #18935536 - 10/05/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know. They remind me a lot of A. amerirubescens, and I've seen the warts turn grayish on those, but the warts on these are so gray when young and I usually don't find A. amerirubescens this time of season.:shrug:


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I will confess something that should be quite obvious, CC.  I love mushrooms, i.e. fungi.  I really do.  I am talking about a strong feeling, i.e. emotion, for them.  I think they are beautiful.  I even dream of them.


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Re: Help!?! [Re: Bobzimmer]
    #18935559 - 10/05/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yes they do resemble amerirubescens, yet in a way, not so much. Maybe you are upsetting the group even further! Be careful... This collection could piss off a lot of mycologists... Lol


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Help!?! [Re: Hashfinger]
    #18938968 - 10/06/13 05:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Hashfinger said:
Yes they do resemble amerirubescens, yet in a way, not so much.




Yep. That's how I'd describe them.:smile:


Quote:

Hashfinger said:
Be careful... This collection could piss off a lot of mycologists... Lol




I think I piss off mycologists all the time.:shrug:


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I will confess something that should be quite obvious, CC.  I love mushrooms, i.e. fungi.  I really do.  I am talking about a strong feeling, i.e. emotion, for them.  I think they are beautiful.  I even dream of them.


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Re: Help!?! [Re: Bobzimmer]
    #18939045 - 10/06/13 06:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe amanita novinupta? Which only shows growing in the western US....


Edited by northgahunt (10/06/13 06:36 AM)


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Re: Help!?! [Re: northgahunt]
    #18939228 - 10/06/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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northgahunt said:
Maybe amanita novinupta? Which only shows growing in the western US....



I love your avatar NGH. :congrats:


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Help!?! [Re: northgahunt]
    #18941937 - 10/06/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

northgahunt said:
Maybe amanita novinupta? Which only shows growing in the western US....



Like you said that's a western species. These seem a lot like A. amerirubens but the universal veil seems weird. I found some more but I'm no less confused...


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I will confess something that should be quite obvious, CC.  I love mushrooms, i.e. fungi.  I really do.  I am talking about a strong feeling, i.e. emotion, for them.  I think they are beautiful.  I even dream of them.


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Re: Help!?! [Re: Bobzimmer]
    #18942020 - 10/06/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Those have a lot in common with the little guy I found today. Same color veil. Darker brown center on the cap?


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