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Offlinec0ntent_in_spac3
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Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ
    #18926879 - 10/03/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Basically when I first get a bag, that first and maybe second high is super intense, ur typical, sometimes scary sometimes beautiful.. and then I work up a tolerance to where I smoke I'll say about a small 3-4 hit bowl to myself about every hour or 2 and just don't get high anymore at all, more just "down a slight notch" with the munchies, and just do that until I run out.. Anyways this "calm state" is the only time I don't have a racing mind and major sleep problems without drinkin my nuts off or wantin to do pills or "chemicals" I say.. it just keeps me in this calm state. And this explains why I'm addicted to MJ in my own mind

I'm from the east coast so I get frowned upon for it, but it's an awesome thing resorting to this as opposed to binge drinking or benzos.. and I have no side effects besides when it first wears off I get super crazy for about a week if I don't get another bag but then I'll re-adjust but the racing thoughts are still there after the withdrawal.

But the only problem is I think I'm different because noone else in my circle uses it like this, nor can they relate to me to well about it. They more just smoke to get high and can stop whenever. I just wanted to see if some people here use it in kind of the same way and has some tips or advice for me. Thank u all and have a great day!


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: c0ntent_in_spac3]
    #18926922 - 10/03/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Its called a tolerance. You will always get the highest the first time in the day you smoke (short term tolerance) and you will always get the highest the first day after not having weed in a while (longer term tolerance). A general rule of thumb for me although it is probably untrue when dealing with super large amounts, is that you won't get higher than when you first smoke. So the first time in the day that you smoke if you only get a moderate high, you will only be able to get a moderate high for the rest of the day unless you smoke a ton. You should try to take tolerance breaks and also not smoke every hour or 2. You should wait until you are almost not high to smoke more and it will make a big difference.


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: c0ntent_in_spac3]
    #18926997 - 10/03/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah.. the first smoke of the day is always powerful compared to the rest of the day.


I have had to quit marijuana twice.. the first time was very hard even though I only smoked a few bowls a day..

The second time was actually very very easy, even though I had a wayyyyy higher tolerance than I did the first time around.. I used to be able to smoke an entire nicely rolled blunt of California chronic to myself, all in one sitting, and barely feel high at all.. I quit like it was nothing..

It's all in your head man, you just need to be strong and stop using it,I remember how hard it was though to quit the first time, but trust me, things get better after about 2 weeks, then a month, then before yo know it you're not even keeping track. Just stop now. You don't need herb, and you definetly don't need herb to keep you from doing other things.

What you need is discipline. That is the key to success in anything.


Also try to stay active, winter is coming up, so when/if you quit it will be harder to do because the darkness makes people less motivated, especially people with depression.. So try to get out and be active, and don't just sit inside and dwell all day.


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18927093 - 10/03/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You are alone!

haha just kidding. Actually i don't really know


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: unknown1123]
    #18927233 - 10/03/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I went 2 whole months without it this year.. The racing thoughts were still there and I was still way jittery in public and had insomnia still, but that 2 months was a good thing because it got me kind of "used" to doin certain things when I run out now..

And I don't really chase the "high" just that calm state like I was saying is all I'm lookin for. I'm not lookin to quit either because there's no other side effects for me besides how I was sayin when it first wears off. I clearly need medicated and I'd rather just not listen to a doctor and be put on a benzo or anything else they've tryed shoving down my throat. I've been down the pill road and its too much, klonopins and xanax definitley work for me but too many side effects. If herb works why not ya know?? It just sucks how its not even legal for medical use in my state

I know it isn't normal to use it this way though especially where I live and I just feel out of place haha. I know there's gotta be someone here from the west coast or something who's medically treated in a similar way with it. Thank u all so much for the input though, I'm likin the community here so far :smile:


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: c0ntent_in_spac3]
    #18927251 - 10/03/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

And captian crunch stayin active isn't a problem haha. I run every other day, use a juicer and all that weird stuff to stay as healthy as possible. Keeps my nervous system in check the best that it could be at least


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: c0ntent_in_spac3]
    #18927917 - 10/03/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know why your doctor wants to give you benzos but if its for anxiety, and you already smoke a bunch of weed; If you have good discipline and self control you could always try taking benzos one or 2 days a week and not smoke weed on those days. Just don't use the benzos recreationally, or use anything more than the absolute smallest amount needed. Iv found that at first you don't know what the smallest amount of benzos needed is but it is generally very low. I use them for sleep and the first weeks I used it I thought I needed like half a milligram or a milligram like most people think for effects. However I have fine tuned senses and I realized that I actually could feel down to .25mg of clonazepam. I use .25mg of clonazepam to help with sleep one to a couple days a week.25mg doesn't do all that much but it does alter your central nervous system and for me that slight altercation on some nights is enough to improve my sleep. Unlike a lot of people I don't take it to fall asleep because the dose needed for that is larger and you would build more tolerance and so on. I take it to aid my sleep on the nights where that little bit extra cns depression might make a difference. I have been doing this for over a year and form no tolerance and have no negative side effects from that amount. I do take 1-3mg every once in a while with weed for fun and that is the only time my tolerance goes up. I just wanted to let you know all this because If you smoke a lot of weed you probably have to spend a decent amount of money, and at least for me smoking very often does have drawbacks. If you have good insurance chances are you can get like 30mg of a potent benzo for like $10.


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: SteelPanther]
    #18927964 - 10/03/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

youre probably getting anxiety from the weed. it's one of the most common symptoms


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: c0ntent_in_spac3]
    #18929294 - 10/04/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

balance in everything


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
    #18932284 - 10/04/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

@unknown my anxiety actually comes from long term adderall abuse :/ I was prescribed 40 mg of the XR every day for 3 years in high school, lost 70 pounds but im 23 now and just haven't been right since.. The anxiety comes when I don't have weed not when I'm smoking it

Bein that it's not legal I gotta just risk it when I buy it.. every once and a while though but rarely I'll buy some that can cause more anxiety or doesn't "take me down" enough.. but for the most part there's usually enough indica in whatever im buying to do the trick.. I think that's just strain complications anyways that wouldn't happen anymore if it was fully legalized

If anyone else here suffers from long term amphetamine abuse and have some tips or advice for me that'd be cool too.. I'm aware of the roots of this forum and how transcendental therapy works wonders but I haven't been able to get my hands on any magical ingredients in years haha :frown: Thank u all and have a safe weekend


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: c0ntent_in_spac3]
    #18936133 - 10/05/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Go outside and get into a big group and you can tell you are stoned.


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: c0ntent_in_spac3]
    #18936461 - 10/05/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If anyone else here suffers from long term amphetamine abuse and have some tips or advice for me that'd be cool too..




My advice is don't resort to taking prescription drugs for your problems, Depression, Anxiety, Concentration etc..

Depression and anxiety go away on there own with time, concentration can be overcome by will power and discipline.


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18937449 - 10/05/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

@sunshine I can very well tell im stoned if I don't smoke for 3+ days.. Actually during the withdrawal im usually in a sleep deprived semi-psychosis so smoking can have similar effects to a bad trip.. So once that's out of the way and I start back up yeah that first 1-2 times it's just ur typical high, sometimes fun, sometimes anxiety but managable, but I build my tolerance up and that "calm" state is what I need, to where I really don't get that stoned u know. And that's pretty much the only way I can sleep like a normal person without pills, alch ect


@crunch Very well spoken dude. Unfortunately though I was young and dumb, just looked at it as a "pill to get my grades up" and nothing more, never bothered to research ect. And then when it started makin me change and drift away from friends and family, and literally developing the same behavior and personality as a "tweaker" I became aware.. Now I am against 90% of all prescription pills, if doctors give kids amphetamines to calm down I just can't trust anything they say now, I resort elsewhere to clean eating, exercise and meditation/psychadellics, and it works wonders for me.. I just still struggle with sleep and some improving-with-time anxiety/jitters which is why I resort to the MJ lol. Once im fully better or "cleansed" I like to say and my anxiety is fully dissapated from the adderall (takes years for the brain to rebuild the best that it can) i'll be able to quit and use it recreationally here and there maybe and not just medicinally. And that's what I want because it definitley takes a lung toll when u go through it like that


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: c0ntent_in_spac3]
    #18938831 - 10/06/13 03:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Dont sit there and try to say MJ is not giving you anxiety also


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: itchmynipple]
    #18940294 - 10/06/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

@itch It's really not.. Like I said earlier I'll come across certain strains that will but it's rare.. And before I build that tolerance up too it can cause that typical anxiety ridden in ur face high lol. But for the most part anything with like a 25% indica ratio or higher settles the "bounciness" of my brain just right. . The anxiety and racing thoughts come when I run out


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: c0ntent_in_spac3]
    #18940557 - 10/06/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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c0ntent_in_spac3 said:
@itch It's really not.. Like I said earlier I'll come across certain strains that will but it's rare.. And before I build that tolerance up too it can cause that typical anxiety ridden in ur face high lol. But for the most part anything with like a 25% indica ratio or higher settles the "bounciness" of my brain just right. . The anxiety and racing thoughts come when I run out




yeahh sounds like you need to quit smoking weed man


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: itchmynipple] * 1
    #18941303 - 10/06/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can get strain tolerance with MJ.  If you have an ounce of the same stuff, your tolerance will be higher at the end of that oz to that particular strain than it would be if you smoked 8 different 8ths.


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18941788 - 10/06/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You can get strain tolerance with MJ.  If you have an ounce of the same stuff, your tolerance will be higher at the end of that oz to that particular strain than it would be if you smoked 8 different 8ths.




This is very true, this guy sounds like he needs to quit smoking though..

It seems like he's holding on to it and has a rough time trying to quit so he's trying to do it in moderation.

He needs to be disciplined.


The only way weed will stop making you paranoid is if you develop a REAL tolerance for it. Not 3-4 hit bowls. The 2nd time i started smoking it was during summer, I'd sleep all day and wake up in the evening, when my mom went to sleep i'd go in the garage and take a hit or two and be high for hours, at first i'd get light weight paranoid but I worked my way up to a blunt to myself and all the anxiety I had before smoking weed had gone away. It didn't come back until I started hanging out with people who gave my bad vibes.


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18941851 - 10/06/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Noo see my above posts for the reasons why I don't wanna quit.. Not having to depend on anything for my anxiety is somethin Id like but Id rather depend on weed than a pill that makes ur body shut down and causes seizures when u stop taking it


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Re: Please tell me I'm not alone in the way I use MJ [Re: c0ntent_in_spac3]
    #18941925 - 10/06/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Noo see my above posts for the reasons why I don't wanna quit.. Not having to depend on anything for my anxiety is somethin Id like but Id rather depend on weed than a pill that makes ur body shut down and causes seizures when u stop taking it





If you have the money to smoke a "normal" amount everyday then that would be fine I think.

But you smoke very small amounts, and I think that is why you keep getting paranoid because your tolerance isn't getting up.


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