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Anonymous #1

Christians
    #18940798 - 10/06/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Are frustrating me today. How many of you are there? I need to know how many bullets to buy.
Are you a christian?
You may choose only one
Should I kill Christians and southerners?
You may choose only one


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Anonymous #2

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #1] * 3
    #18941195 - 10/06/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well for one, any real southerner would gun your bitch ass down long before you even completed your draw, so definitely don't make that mistake.

For two, you're not going to find many Christians on this forum.

For three, if Christians are right about their beliefs then you'd just be expediting their voyage to paradise so I don't see what the harm there could possibly be.

They even get a special jeweled crown if you kill them specifically for their beliefs, allowing them to one-up their neighbors in Heaven for all of eternity.

I'd say you'd be doing the world an all around favor.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #18941210 - 10/06/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't go to church but out of family tradition, I am. It isn't "christians" its fucking crazy people.. If any religious group pisses you off.. it should be muslims.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #18941315 - 10/06/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not really, I don't have to talk to or meet with muslims on a regular basis and US xenophobia keeps their political ambitions in check.

It is Christians that have historically buttfucked western countries, and it is their political policy interrupting my life and my freedom.

Religious people from all beliefs should be treated as clinically insane and should not be trusted or allowed in public offices.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #18941639 - 10/06/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #3 said:
I don't go to church but out of family tradition, I am. It isn't "christians" its fucking crazy people.. If any religious group pisses you off.. it should be muslims.




Scientologists piss me off more than any group, but they are so pathetic I figure shooting them would be doing them a favor. As for the southerner thing, pull your honkey ass 6ers bitches, I got da judey stars  :boxing:


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Anonymous #4

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #18948666 - 10/08/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Why you gotta bring southerners into this? :alot:


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Anonymous #1

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #18948744 - 10/08/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, gonna punch them til they have even less teeth and shove a kareem abdul jabar signed basketball up their ass. Then its on. Yall


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Anonymous #5

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18948780 - 10/08/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:herpyderp:


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Anonymous #6

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #18953281 - 10/09/13 08:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Songs for OP.




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Anonymous #2

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #6] * 1
    #18953929 - 10/09/13 11:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Was totally expecting Kill The Christian by Deicide.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #18955763 - 10/09/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well a Christian helped me with a flat tire today. So I can't complain.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #18955809 - 10/09/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #7 said:
Well a Christian helped me with a flat tire today. So I can't complain.




Well a Christian helped me with my erection today. So I can't complain.  :smilingpuppy:


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Anonymous #9

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18956374 - 10/09/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

well.....you certainly are not  :nono: making the most of your spiritual journey.

You better hope that you are wrong about your hatred of others.

Otherwise,...you might feel pretty stupid should you die and have Jesus drop-kick you in the nuts:uhoh:



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Anonymous #1

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #18956649 - 10/09/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ha I like this guy ^^


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Anonymous #10

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #18964041 - 10/11/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

theres only a worst thing than a christian ... an atheist!


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Anonymous #2

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #18964076 - 10/11/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #10 said:
theres only a worst thing than a christian ... an atheist!




Oh man, what an intelligently written criticism. Let me guess, you are an agnostic because, like, dmt and shit, bro.

:herpyderp:


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Anonymous #11

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #18977970 - 10/14/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Wasn't there a comedian who did that thing..

"Imagine if we're all wrong.. and the real god is like Buddha ?"

I often wonder, imagine some obscure tribe that worships cow shit have it right.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #18978051 - 10/14/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #11 said:
Wasn't there a comedian who did that thing..

"Imagine if we're all wrong.. and the real god is like Buddha ?"

I often wonder, imagine some obscure tribe that worships cow shit have it right.




Man you know what would be the craziest? If god was a pissed off super human who created and loves you but condemns you for being sinful, different, or gay... But he loves you. THAT would be some cray cray shit.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #18989511 - 10/17/13 04:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #11 said:
Wasn't there a comedian who did that thing..

"Imagine if we're all wrong.. and the real god is like Buddha ?"

I often wonder, imagine some obscure tribe that worships cow shit have it right.




Man you know what would be the craziest? If god was a pissed off super human who created and loves you but condemns you for being sinful, different, or gay... But he loves you. THAT would be some cray cray shit.




Any god that condemns you and thinks you are not worthy is not the real deal, if you ask me.
The God-thing loves you unconditional, for you are him. And so am I.


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Anonymous #13

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #18991364 - 10/17/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah OP, Kill all the fucking Christians. Make place for Muslims to move in, that'll be some awesome shit right there :thumbup:

Every day 5 times a day :bow2:  :bow2:  :bow2:  :bow2:  :bow2:


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Anonymous #14

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #18993566 - 10/17/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

As a Christian...  I understand how we are hated by the world.  Most of the Christian news you hear in the media is about something Christians hate today.  You see Christians with hate signs for homosexuals, and other things along that line.

The Problem is, those are the people who are viewed as the ones who speak for all Christians, but in reality, they only speak for themselves.  As a believer in Jesus Christ I know that he wouldn't be saying hateful things to homosexuals or shunning them from the church.  If you are familiar with the bible at all, you would know he was known for making his company with sinners. He said those who aren't sick are in no need of a physician (not an exact quote but you get it)

The bible also says Satan is the god of this world (not to be confused with actually being God Almighty).  So the way I see it is, if Satan is the God of this world, he would just be having a field day with making sure that the mainstream news about Christians is how hateful and unaccepting they are.  Those Christians that are on the news may have some serious soul searching to do.  Many think they're going to Heaven but they aren't.

Matthew 7:22-23 - Jesus said: 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


We are saved by God's grace, and mercy, and by faith in Jesus Christ. NOT BY WORKS... lest any man should boast

Sorry if I sounded preachy but you know the gospel of Jesus Christ is just that...  Preachy... it is supposed to be preached.  I don't like that Christians have a bad name.  I do my best to do unto others as I would have them do unto me.  Regardless of belief, gender, race, likes, dislikes etc.  Feed and clothe your friend when he/she is in need.  But also feed and clothe your enemy when he/she is in need, God will bless you for it all the more.  God bless.


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Anonymous #12

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #18994120 - 10/18/13 04:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The kingdom of god is in all men, not a group of men, not a chosen people, but all men.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #18994413 - 10/18/13 07:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
As a Christian...  I understand how we are hated by the world.  Most of the Christian news you hear in the media is about something Christians hate today.  You see Christians with hate signs for homosexuals, and other things along that line.

The Problem is, those are the people who are viewed as the ones who speak for all Christians, but in reality, they only speak for themselves.  As a believer in Jesus Christ I know that he wouldn't be saying hateful things to homosexuals or shunning them from the church.  If you are familiar with the bible at all, you would know he was known for making his company with sinners. He said those who aren't sick are in no need of a physician (not an exact quote but you get it)

The bible also says Satan is the god of this world (not to be confused with actually being God Almighty).  So the way I see it is, if Satan is the God of this world, he would just be having a field day with making sure that the mainstream news about Christians is how hateful and unaccepting they are.  Those Christians that are on the news may have some serious soul searching to do.  Many think they're going to Heaven but they aren't.

Matthew 7:22-23 - Jesus said: 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


We are saved by God's grace, and mercy, and by faith in Jesus Christ. NOT BY WORKS... lest any man should boast

Sorry if I sounded preachy but you know the gospel of Jesus Christ is just that...  Preachy... it is supposed to be preached.  I don't like that Christians have a bad name.  I do my best to do unto others as I would have them do unto me.  Regardless of belief, gender, race, likes, dislikes etc.  Feed and clothe your friend when he/she is in need.  But also feed and clothe your enemy when he/she is in need, God will bless you for it all the more.  God bless.





Jesus could have been a homosexual himself, there are no references of him engaging sexually with women, thus his likely inclination with the same sex.

"making sure that the mainstream news about Christians is how hateful and unaccepting they are"

Sure, Satan controls the MSM, lay off the drugs dude. :picard:


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Anonymous #15

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #8] * 1
    #18994545 - 10/18/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Many Christians are decent people.

What Christianity claims to be the truth about the nature of reality is :facepalm3:


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Anonymous #1

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #18995226 - 10/18/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #13 said:
Yeah OP, Kill all the fucking Christians. Make place for Muslims to move in, that'll be some awesome shit right there :thumbup:

Every day 5 times a day :bow2:  :bow2:  :bow2:  :bow2:  :bow2:




At least Muslims are entertaining, yayayayayah!!!! :curbyourenthusiasm:


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Anonymous #15

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18996060 - 10/18/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Uh oh here we go with the Muslim hate


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Anonymous #1

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #18996293 - 10/18/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #15 said:
Uh oh here we go with the Muslim hate




Trust me sir, my hate is for Christians


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Anonymous #14

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #18996827 - 10/18/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well maybe not Satan himself controls the media.  But the leaders of this country are into idol worship and Satanism.  You can't really watch the MSM to know this though. Look up Bohemian Grove, look up the Bilderberg group, or look up the Rothschild's 500 million dollar fortune that is never in Forbes magazine.  This country is not run by politicians, it's run by corporations.  And if you did some research you'd find the devil worship that's going on.  Btw the Rothschild's 500 million dollar fortune is over half of all the worlds wealth and they could feed, clothe, and shelter the world if they chose to do so.  Time to wake up.  The New world order is coming, practically already here.  They're just waiting for their anti Christ to appear on the scene.  You can call me crazy.  If you think a Christian isn't used to being called crazy, well then you my friend, are crazy.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #18997137 - 10/18/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
Well maybe not Satan himself controls the media.  But the leaders of this country are into idol worship and Satanism.  You can't really watch the MSM to know this though. Look up Bohemian Grove, look up the Bilderberg group, or look up the Rothschild's 500 million dollar fortune that is never in Forbes magazine.  This country is not run by politicians, it's run by corporations.  And if you did some research you'd find the devil worship that's going on.  Btw the Rothschild's 500 million dollar fortune is over half of all the worlds wealth and they could feed, clothe, and shelter the world if they chose to do so.  Time to wake up.  The New world order is coming, practically already here.  They're just waiting for their anti Christ to appear on the scene.  You can call me crazy.  If you think a Christian isn't used to being called crazy, well then you my friend, are crazy.




"waiting for their anti Christ to appear on the scene."

In symbolic form I assume.

"If you think a Christian isn't used to being called crazy"

Of course they are called crazy, who the fuck would think God is a Jewish man that may have lived 2000 years ago?  Crazy is a nice word for people that believe in this hogwash.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #18997653 - 10/18/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

As a believer in Jesus Christ I know that he wouldn't be saying hateful things to homosexuals or shunning them from the church.




I guess that depends on which of your gods shows up, the one who absolutely did shun homosexuals and instructed his followers to stone them to death, or the one preached love and happiness but never directly commented on homosexuality.

Quote:

We are saved by God's grace, and mercy, and by faith in Jesus Christ.




Saved from god's wrath by his grace, if we grovel, huh? Which he allegedly imposed on us because a long detached woman violated a rule should couldn't even have fathomed (how could she have known that is was "wrong" to eat the fruit without possessing the knowledge of good and evil that it contained?). I'll pass, I never deserved eternal torture and neither do you.

Quote:

Btw the Rothschild's 500 million dollar fortune is over half of all the worlds wealth and they could feed, clothe, and shelter the world if they chose to do so.  Time to wake up.




Even $500 billion isn't half of the world's wealth. Or even close. The videographer who taped Alex Jones' Bohemian Grove footage wrote a book detailing how Jones manipulated the video to look like what it is. Google it. You fear the wrong things and are balls deep in the ones worth avoiding.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #18999124 - 10/19/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #8 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
Well maybe not Satan himself controls the media.  But the leaders of this country are into idol worship and Satanism.  You can't really watch the MSM to know this though. Look up Bohemian Grove, look up the Bilderberg group, or look up the Rothschild's 500 million dollar fortune that is never in Forbes magazine.  This country is not run by politicians, it's run by corporations.  And if you did some research you'd find the devil worship that's going on.  Btw the Rothschild's 500 million dollar fortune is over half of all the worlds wealth and they could feed, clothe, and shelter the world if they chose to do so.  Time to wake up.  The New world order is coming, practically already here.  They're just waiting for their anti Christ to appear on the scene.  You can call me crazy.  If you think a Christian isn't used to being called crazy, well then you my friend, are crazy.




"waiting for their anti Christ to appear on the scene."

In symbolic form I assume.

"If you think a Christian isn't used to being called crazy"

Of course they are called crazy, who the fuck would think God is a Jewish man that may have lived 2000 years ago?  Crazy is a nice word for people that believe in this hogwash.




Aliens best step up and start worshippin Jesus or dey gon burn in hell!


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Anonymous #14

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #19000921 - 10/19/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

500 million... Sorry guys that was a big typo on my behalf...  I meant 500 trillion... The Rothschild's fortune is 500 trillion dollars. Sorry about that.  lol.  Huge typo.


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Anonymous #16

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #19000965 - 10/19/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
As a Christian...  I understand how we are hated by the world.  Most of the Christian news you hear in the media is about something Christians hate today.  You see Christians with hate signs for homosexuals, and othe....Jesus Christ I know that he wouldn't be s....Sorry if I sounded preachy but you know the gospel of Jesus Christ is just that...  Preachy... it is supposed to be preached.  I don't like......he your enemy when he/she is in need, God will bless you for it all the more.  God bless....




I couldent get past line three.

Guess I'm not christian. Whew, dont shoot because I couldent care less how you deal with your demons, as long as it isnt on my front door!


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Anonymous #2

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #19004928 - 10/20/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
500 million... Sorry guys that was a big typo on my behalf...  I meant 500 trillion... The Rothschild's fortune is 500 trillion dollars. Sorry about that.  lol.  Huge typo.




That would be about ten times the entire world's GDP, all of the Rothschilds combined don't have anywhere close to this much wealth.

One could not possibly hide 5 trillion dollars of wealth, let alone 500 trillion. What form would the imaginary wealth be in? If it were commodities it would require oceans of oil, Greenland-sized continents comprised completely of gold, platinum and palladium, or maybe all of the historical works that religion destroyed over the last few millenia. They couldn't have it in companies, even highly undervalued private businesses would create a huge splash among third party contenders in whatever marketplaces they were in. Not even their fancy Swiss bank could hide 5 trillion in liquid or assets, and that's still only a hundredth of what you're claiming they have.

You are a troll, or someone has mislead you.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #19004984 - 10/20/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Back to the fucking thread... If you are a Christian, or a hill folk, I have a special rake just for you.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19005057 - 10/20/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What are you?

I'm picturing a slightly overweight guy with a buzzcut from NE US, who owns more than a couple fitted caps and basketball jerseys.

Am I close?


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Anonymous #1

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #19005793 - 10/20/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, dead on. :highfive:


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Anonymous #2

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19005954 - 10/20/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Even in the Anon forum my powers of clairvoyance are unparalleled, for I am the latest prophet of god.

God is angry with you heathens for banning the natural state of slavery. This is to be immediately reversed, lest ye fear your damnation at the hands of the Lord. Make sure plenty of petite 18-25 year old white girls are enslaved, for this pleases the Lord your God, and will restore His blessing amongst His people.

Amen-Om-Dirka-Ackbar. So sayeth the Lord.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #19006120 - 10/20/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

He is risen!


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Anonymous #17

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19580763 - 02/17/14 04:11 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
He is risen!




I follow God!


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Anonymous #18

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #17]
    #19582074 - 02/17/14 08:16 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

A good word you can interchange with judgement in scripture is consequense.  If you actually take the time to break down the word, its not God punishing you, it's a warning of the consequense of your actions.  If I tell you not to touch a red element on a stove lest ye be burned, its not me saying if you touch that I'll burn you, it's a warning of consequence.  I think the consequences of the basic ten commandments is obvious.  You don't have to be a Christian to respect what is being said to be avoided in the 10 commandments, it's basic respect for others.

Yet we chase our pleasures, submit to wrath, temptations etc.  And that's the point at which consequenses bite us in the ass.  For what it's worth.


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Anonymous #18

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #19582090 - 02/17/14 08:20 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Which is why the world is as fucked as it is.  Had we all agreed to the basic 10 this world would be a very different place, Christian or not.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #19582264 - 02/17/14 09:07 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #18 said:
A good word you can interchange with judgement in scripture is consequense.  If you actually take the time to break down the word, its not God punishing you, it's a warning of the consequense of your actions.  If I tell you not to touch a red element on a stove lest ye be burned, its not me saying if you touch that I'll burn you, it's a warning of consequence.  I think the consequences of the basic ten commandments is obvious.  You don't have to be a Christian to respect what is being said to be avoided in the 10 commandments, it's basic respect for others.




That's not true at all. Let's go through them one by one:

Quote:

1: I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. You shall have no other gods before me.




You definitely have to be of the judeo christian persuasion to respect this one.

Quote:

2: You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.




I own many carved images of many different things. I don't bow down or serve them, but neither do I bow down or serve your jealous god who spites people for the actions of their fathers and breaks nearly every one of these commandments in the same book that he bestows these laws. You definitely have to be of the judeo christian persuasion to respect this one.

Quote:

3: You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.




Jesus Christ, what a bunch of goddamn nonsense. Definitely have to be of the judeo christian persuasion to respect this one.

Quote:

4: Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.




I have worked on many Sundays and never had a problem. Definitely have to be of the judeo christian persuasion to respect this one.

There you go, now we're down to 6 commandments, none of which are exceptional enough to warrant using the ten commandments as a moral compass for anyone other than a judeo christian koolaid drinker.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #19582315 - 02/17/14 09:16 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #18 said:
Which is why the world is as fucked as it is.  Had we all agreed to the basic 10 this world would be a very different place, Christian or not.




And had we agreed to the rest of the laws passed down in the Old Testament, I could go rape a hot seventeen year and give her dad 50 oz of silver to force her to marry me. I could then abuse her for the rest of her life and she couldn't divorce me or speak out against the abuse. I could own slaves and beat them as hard as I wanted as long as they didn't die that same day from the beating. Next day, no problem. I could help stone peoples' children to death for coloring their hair or swearing at their parents. Despite the commandment "thou shall not murder", I could study the long list of exceptions given and be just as psychopathically murderous as your god.

It would be nice though if people didn't steal, commit adultery, murder others, or get jealous, but how would that happen in a world where we are made in the image of a jealous, sadistic tyrant?


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Anonymous #18

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #19582386 - 02/17/14 09:27 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I think you missed the point of my post.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #19582439 - 02/17/14 09:37 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #18 said:
I think you missed the point of my post.




No I got it completely, you think the 10 commandments are a good moral basis to live by regardless of your beliefs. They are not, nearly half of them are worthless to non christians and the "consequences" are by no means self fulfilling or certain. There are many moral codes that are far better than the 10 commandments, and basically any of them are better than the rest of the laws set forth in the Bible.


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Anonymous #13

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #19582919 - 02/17/14 11:06 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

OP, why do you hate Christians specifically? What got you to start this thread?

I'm not a Christian myself, just wondering why you'd hate on them more than say, Muslims.


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Anonymous #18

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #19583671 - 02/18/14 01:50 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

@ number 2.  Let me clarify, in saying 10, I should have wittled it down to the ones that would pertain to non Christians.  I assumed that would have been taken into account when I said, "whether you're a Christian, or not.  I should have been clearer. So..

They go like this :
1: You shall have no gods before me.
2: Create no images.
3: Do not misuse my name.
4: Obey the sabbath.
5: Honor thy mother and father
6: You shall not commit murder.
7: You shall not commit adultry.
8: You shall not steal.
9: You shall not bear false testimony.
10: You shall not covet.

Assuming you're not Christian, that takes 1-4 off the list.  5 could go either way, but it's a good practice to get into, situations vary, we'll not get into that.

Which leaves us with, murder, adultry, theft, false testimony, and coveting.  How in any walk of life is this not basic respect?  Which theologies are you speaking of that would not only touch on that but be better?  And lastly, Im trying to think of daily situations where legitimate problems would arise if a person would stick to these basic principals, Christian or not.  It seems all major clashes can be avoided if a person sticks to these simple basic standards.  And the point I was making, is that if everybody could reign themselves in enough to stick to these basic principals, yes, this world would be a much better place.  For the better.

Add to that, when the diciples asked Jesus which commandment was the most important and Jesus replied something to the effect " I tell you this, anyone who has broken the least of my laws, is guilty of breaking the whole of the law.  But love the Lord with all your heart (doesnt apply to non christians in this example) and treat your neighbor as you would want to be treated"

How can you not 1, respect that, 2, not only touch upon that but raise it to a higher standard/level, and 3, create any kind of chaos if you obey those simple fundamentals?  Your old testimony examples are obsolete.  That was my point.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #19584614 - 02/18/14 10:48 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Well since you said the basic 10, I'll give you a pass on the fact that many of the remaining six are stripped of the context in which the jews understood them (thou shall not murder only means no premeditated murder of other jews unless permitted by law, thou shall not steal actually referred to stealing/abducting jewish people, not goods, etc).

Christians like hammering this idea into society that the 10 commandments are these wonderful laws that transcend religion but they are not, as you can see we've whittled 10 down to 5 or 6. I agree with you that at least #6-10 are basic respect. So basic though, that people need not read the 10 commandments to understand them. I would go further to say that not one murderer, thief, abductor, adulterer, or perjurer would have changed his or her ways if only they had read the 10 commandments.

The 10 commandments, much like the rest of juedo christian mythology, were borrowed from the Egyptians whose texts (Book of the Dead) were not nearly as watered down given that they were the source material. Since we also know that the Old Testament was not inked down until sometime between 1000-600BC, the Egyptians and Sumerians along with the Indians and Chinese already had more comprehensive civil laws in place.

We could have a whole separate debate about whether or not the rest of the OT laws are obsolete given Jesus' own words about them, but suffice it to say that the laws of the Bible, including the 10 commandments, are specifically religious laws meant for specifically jewish people, and have no place in government buildings or secular societies.

The Golden Rule (do unto others...) is a much better moral code if you need something simple and easy to remember IMO, as it does not come with caveats or instructions favoring a particular deity, and can be found in virtually every religion and philosophy across the spectrum. It was by no means an invention of Jesus. Parading the 10 commandments as the ultimate moral code is an attempt, whether conscious or not, to press your religion on everyone else. If you were to say "the latter half of the 10 commandments" I could possibly agree with you if I was ignorant of the context and caveats implied by the original hebrew text.


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Anonymous #19

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #19584862 - 02/18/14 12:13 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #13 said:
OP, why do you hate Christians specifically? What got you to start this thread?

I'm not a Christian myself, just wondering why you'd hate on them more than say, Muslims.




There is no need to bring muslims into the discussion.  That kind of diversion tactic is just that - a diversion tactic.

Why is it that when a religion gets criticized somebody feels the need to retort by comparing to another religion?  Its because of political correctness.

Christians are crappy in their own right.  It makes no difference at all what mulsims do.  What muslims do does not excuse christians (or vise versa).


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Anonymous #18

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #19586340 - 02/18/14 05:39 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Well since you said the basic 10, I'll give you a pass on the fact that many of the remaining six are stripped of the context in which the jews understood them (thou shall not murder only means no premeditated murder of other jews unless permitted by law, thou shall not steal actually referred to stealing/abducting jewish people, not goods, etc).

Christians like hammering this idea into society that the 10 commandments are these wonderful laws that transcend religion but they are not, as you can see we've whittled 10 down to 5 or 6. I agree with you that at least #6-10 are basic respect. So basic though, that people need not read the 10 commandments to understand them. I would go further to say that not one murderer, thief, abductor, adulterer, or perjurer would have changed his or her ways if only they had read the 10 commandments.

The 10 commandments, much like the rest of juedo christian mythology, were borrowed from the Egyptians whose texts (Book of the Dead) were not nearly as watered down given that they were the source material. Since we also know that the Old Testament was not inked down until sometime between 1000-600BC, the Egyptians and Sumerians along with the Indians and Chinese already had more comprehensive civil laws in place.

We could have a whole separate debate about whether or not the rest of the OT laws are obsolete given Jesus' own words about them, but suffice it to say that the laws of the Bible, including the 10 commandments, are specifically religious laws meant for specifically jewish people, and have no place in government buildings or secular societies.

The Golden Rule (do unto others...) is a much better moral code if you need something simple and easy to remember IMO, as it does not come with caveats or instructions favoring a particular deity, and can be found in virtually every religion and philosophy across the spectrum. It was by no means an invention of Jesus. Parading the 10 commandments as the ultimate moral code is an attempt, whether conscious or not, to press your religion on everyone else. If you were to say "the latter half of the 10 commandments" I could possibly agree with you if I was ignorant of the context and caveats implied by the original hebrew text.



Yea thats fascinating..  show me how your actions towards me dont conflict with peace if you dont obey these...and show me how when I commit these directly towards you we dont end in death....  you sound angry...  admit it...  and which theology were you speaking of that touches on these principles, and then rises above them?


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Anonymous #18

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #19586358 - 02/18/14 05:43 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Let me guess, you're "pro-choice"?


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Anonymous #2

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #19586463 - 02/18/14 06:03 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

You can try to backpeddle all you want, you have claimed that the 10 commandments transcend Christianity, but I have clearly shown you that at least 4/10 are worthless to non christians. Now we're discussing the 6 commandments, a topic I have much less interest in, or problems with.

Quote:

Anonymous #18 said:
Let me guess, you're "pro-choice"?




Why even ask, why not just start attacking the strawman preemptively, as your kind are so fond of doing? You already tried the ad hominem by asking if I was angry, a classic theist ploy. Of course the only reason to not believe in god is because you're angry at your parents/priest/spouse, right?

Do you think this is an agreeable moral code for modern society?:

1. You shall have no gods.
2. You shall not paint, draw, sculpt or worship any image of a god or it's iconography.
3. You shall not use the word "god".
4. You shall not work on Mondays.
5: You shall listen to your parents.
6: You shall not murder white Americans who don't deserve it.
7: You shall not commit adultery.
8: You shall not abduct or enslave white Americans.
9: You shall not bear false testimony against another white American.
10: You shall not covet your white American neighbor's wife or possessions.


Edited by Anonymous (02/18/14 06:13 PM)


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Anonymous #20

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #19586557 - 02/18/14 06:22 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Fuck Jesus. ..Hail Satan!


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Anonymous #2

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #20]
    #19586606 - 02/18/14 06:31 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Fuck Satan, Hail Crom!



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Anonymous #18

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #19586995 - 02/18/14 08:08 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
You can try to backpeddle all you want, you have claimed that the 10 commandments transcend Christianity, but I have clearly shown you that at least 4/10 are worthless to non christians. Now we're discussing the 6 commandments, a topic I have much less interest in, or problems with.

Quote:

Anonymous #18 said:
Let me guess, you're "pro-choice"?




Why even ask, why not just start attacking the strawman preemptively, as your kind are so fond of doing? You already tried the ad hominem by asking if I was angry, a classic theist ploy. Of course the only reason to not believe in god is because you're angry at your parents/priest/spouse, right?

Do you think this is an agreeable moral code for modern society?:

1. You shall have no gods.
2. You shall not paint, draw, sculpt or worship any image of a god or it's iconography.
3. You shall not use the word "god".
4. You shall not work on Mondays.
5: You shall listen to your parents.
6: You shall not murder white Americans who don't deserve it.
7: You shall not commit adultery.
8: You shall not abduct or enslave white Americans.
9: You shall not bear false testimony against another white American.
10: You shall not covet your white American neighbor's wife or possessions.



You're a dumbass.  I hope you dont have or influence kids.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #19587214 - 02/18/14 08:46 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #18 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
You can try to backpeddle all you want, you have claimed that the 10 commandments transcend Christianity, but I have clearly shown you that at least 4/10 are worthless to non christians. Now we're discussing the 6 commandments, a topic I have much less interest in, or problems with.

Quote:

Anonymous #18 said:
Let me guess, you're "pro-choice"?




Why even ask, why not just start attacking the strawman preemptively, as your kind are so fond of doing? You already tried the ad hominem by asking if I was angry, a classic theist ploy. Of course the only reason to not believe in god is because you're angry at your parents/priest/spouse, right?

Do you think this is an agreeable moral code for modern society?:

1. You shall have no gods.
2. You shall not paint, draw, sculpt or worship any image of a god or it's iconography.
3. You shall not use the word "god".
4. You shall not work on Mondays.
5: You shall listen to your parents.
6: You shall not murder white Americans who don't deserve it.
7: You shall not commit adultery.
8: You shall not abduct or enslave white Americans.
9: You shall not bear false testimony against another white American.
10: You shall not covet your white American neighbor's wife or possessions.



You're a dumbass.  I hope you dont have or influence kids.



:smirk:

Oh, the satisfaction. I love you.


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Anonymous #18

Re: Christians [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #19587253 - 02/18/14 08:55 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I love you too.  :hug:


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