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OfflineLord_McLovin
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Re: Online blackmarket already has a new home [Re: SurReality]
    #18943130 - 10/07/13 01:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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these sites really need publicity, it helps the sites operators, sellers and buyers on the sites. it also helps the overall bitcoin economy.




This. 65 bucks for 5 hits of acid - my ass. :rolleyes:

It's about time for them to compete against street drug dealers. Obviously there's not too much risk, if you know how to do it, so I have no idea why one should pay 65 fucking bucks for 5 hits of acid.


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Re: Online blackmarket already has a new home [Re: Smushroom]
    #18943158 - 10/07/13 01:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

well a small site would be easier to hide. if it focused on bulk orders only it would work very much like the physical black market. you never share your sources, not only legal security but for job security of cutting out competition.

if you have a cap on members, maybe per country. you might be able to set up a global kingpin connection without ever knowing the players in real life. that is one reason i can see in intentionally keeping low key...

also if you are going to sell online you need to really think about what you're doing.  you should always ship as if the receiver is a forensic investigator, always use glove to prevent finger prints. tie your hair back or, better yet, shave any hair that might fall out. use a wet sponge to stick glue, never saliva. don't ever keep contraband or packaging materials in your living area to avoid getting your dna on any part of the packages...

don't even rent a place, stay on the move so that local authorities can't even try tracking you drop off parcels.

shit if you are growing shrooms or something else that really doesn't require a supply connection due to the self-sustainable nature of the product, you should never need to travel long distances with contraband...

lol i should right a fictional story, that's probably the safest way for me to live out a dream like that and make good money without having to worry about being busted...


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if you consider shipping expenses of discretion, and hassle of covering ones tracks. paying a higher price is understandable. plus, unlike a street dealer, an online dealer has a nationwide if not global target market. so there is actually less competition online when considering the amount of people the product can reach verses a local peddler.


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Re: Online blackmarket already has a new home [Re: gulper2323]
    #18943182 - 10/07/13 02:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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These markets are really starting to spread like wildfire. Do you thinks the FEDs are really going to work to shut each and every one of them down or do you think they're likely to give up after a certain amount of time?




Be careful. They have been exploiting firefox vulnerabilities since they cant yet "break tor." This is because firefox is the most common browser for accessing tor. My suggestion to anyone interested would be to stick to open source software for not just tor, but all needs. It is imo more than rumored certified not opensource encryption to be backdoored. The govt has a gag order and backdoors partnered thru google facebook etc... at&t is a huge one. I have news story references if needed. They also have spoofed their server to act as the actual google ip address in order to watch searches and have them relayed on a huge scale. From other legitimate news stories I have heard how they have passed info on to the dea. Not that any of you have nething to worry about. Im just for freedom n right to personal space.

My point is, tread lightly for a while imho til further info comes out. If they already spoof as google you should believe that they may have their own .onion market. Beware of new ones imo. I luckily ave never used tor however have a long history of security consulting/computer exp and know they very well could spoof in their position. Imo.

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Re: Online blackmarket already has a new home [Re: SurReality]
    #18943314 - 10/07/13 03:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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yea everything i put up in OP is straight from the article link. not really any point in taking it down, i'm sure the website its on gets more traffic than the shroomery.

yea i'm surprised the USPS was going bankrupt. because online drugs are causing several economies to thrive, i don't see why the USPS wouldn't see an increase in revenue.

most companies that ship don't use USPS, and sites like ebay and illegal markets online have to make up a huge part of the USPS revenue...


exactluy what I was always saying the blackmarket has got to be whats holding up USPS


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Re: Online blackmarket already has a new home [Re: SurReality]
    #18943460 - 10/07/13 05:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

USPS doesn't take in enough money because postage costs are set by law, not by USPS. If they could raise the cost of postage, they'd have more than enough to stay in business and even make money. But that would mean paying UPS rates for USPS.

They also aren't allowed to cut their hours by law, even though killing Saturday delivery would put them in the green. And fucking no one but USPS delivers on Saturday to begin with.

It's really ironic, no one will let them raise postage costs or cut hours, and everyone gets outraged when you suggest it, but then everyone is shocked that they're going under. Classic politics.


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Re: Online black market already has a new home [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18943470 - 10/07/13 05:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I wouldn't order a fucking thing from any Tor website.

I knew of SR before SR was even created, Dread use to come into shroomery's chat and it actually began on a regular www before the release of Tor and the expansion to SR. It was run under another name.

All those sites posted by the op will get you arrested for sure, apparently NASA cracked Tor's encryption for every major law enforcement agency in the world to combat the amount of child porn and other illicit stuff on that network.

You kids and your computers. Do you not think the "World" government spends hundreds of millions of dollars on nothing?

Now is not the time. As said, those sites and vendors are probably Interpol agents. Thank you for the article though op.


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Re: Online black market already has a new home [Re: HybridprX]
    #18943543 - 10/07/13 06:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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As said, those sites and vendors are probably Interpol agents. .





A little paranoid aren't we?


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Re: Online black market already has a new home [Re: my3rdeye]
    #18943645 - 10/07/13 07:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

A little?

The Sunday before last I received a knock at my door. Thought it was my buddy, nope.... Two special investigation dectectives....

Claimed I was a suspect in a case before saying it was a cell phone theft.... The regular police show up for that kind of stuff, this I know. These folks were suit and tie buisness.... They're probably investigating user profiles and posts on shroomery.

SR was a big deal when every global law enforcement agency and NASA were working hand in hand to combat Tor, with shroomery being brought into the indictment a lot of us are probably under a watchful eye for the time being. The trial/investigation is probably still on-going.

My paranoia is for any commerical market on tor, I'm sure their are sites for trusted individuals only. Anyways, yea, dectectives showing up and the timing of all this is not weighing well on my mind.


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Re: Online black market already has a new home [Re: HybridprX] * 1
    #18943757 - 10/07/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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A little?

The Sunday before last I received a knock at my door. Thought it was my buddy, nope.... Two special investigation dectectives....

Claimed I was a suspect in a case before saying it was a cell phone theft.... The regular police show up for that kind of stuff, this I know. These folks were suit and tie buisness.... They're probably investigating user profiles and posts on shroomery.

SR was a big deal when every global law enforcement agency and NASA were working hand in hand to combat Tor, with shroomery being brought into the indictment a lot of us are probably under a watchful eye for the time being. The trial/investigation is probably still on-going.

My paranoia is for any commerical market on tor, I'm sure their are sites for trusted individuals only. Anyways, yea, dectectives showing up and the timing of all this is not weighing well on my mind.




wow...

How is this thread not source discussion


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Re: Online blackmarket already has a new home [Re: Blindtheeye]
    #18943933 - 10/07/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Its a news article whether hevtakes it down or npt these links are still going to be up and I'm sure they are well know to law enforcement by now


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Re: Online blackmarket already has a new home [Re: allseeingike]
    #18944119 - 10/07/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

idk why people enjoy complaining about prices of acid on those sites.


it's like.... go ahead and find legit acid IRL if you have a problem with it :lol:


and have it consistently available at a few days' notice.



for many people without connects IRL like those in the professional community who don't hang out with dirty hippies some drugs are hard to find


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Re: Online blackmarket already has a new home [Re: SurReality]
    #18944128 - 10/07/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Haha this is beyond comical. They go after one high profile big fish, then the media gives the masses links to a handful of alternatives.

This kind of thing, from the perspective of law enforcement or the 'law-abiding morally conscious' masses seems to almost justify increased government intervention on the internet (not to mention increasing the already huge budgets for these federal behemoths :lol:).

Won't somebody please think of the children? :suicide:.


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Re: Online blackmarket already has a new home [Re: Cepheus]
    #18944142 - 10/07/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Haha this is beyond comical. They go after one high profile big fish, then the media gives the masses links to a handful of alternatives.




wonderhowto.com is not the media.


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Re: Online blackmarket already has a new home [Re: s240779] * 1
    #18944172 - 10/07/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

wonderhowto has a lot of interesting articles. it might not be mainstream media, but it is certainly media.


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Re: Online blackmarket already has a new home [Re: SurReality]
    #18944211 - 10/07/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I can't believe the mods didn't ban you and delete this article.  They have been pissing and moaning about source discussion all week, and I've pointed out already that most every major news article is doing a piece on SR alternatives.  My theory on why they are doing it so blatently is because the value of BTC will go to shit if the demand goes to shit which will happen unless something replaces SR and does so fast.  Whether or not this is news, its still source discussion and is totally against the rules.  Its kind of common knowledge though, so I can understand why they finally gave in.


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Re: Online blackmarket already has a new home [Re: fapjack]
    #18944238 - 10/07/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

for the third time, i asked the mods before posting. its a public article i'm posting. i am not giving sources i am only sharing a news article that is up to date.

i have been notified that this article may or may not create a change to the rules in the news forum. which in my opinion would be a shame because it would be censoring public information.

if you prefer news to be censored there are countries you can go to that will protect your needs.


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Re: Online blackmarket already has a new home [Re: SurReality]
    #18944251 - 10/07/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I read what you posted, I've also read probably like 10 of these different articles from various news outlets as I found them comical.  I didn't bother PMing any mods about posting them because I thought they would have said no.  I don't agree or disagree with them allowing it, I'm just surprised that they did allow it.  I personally don't give a shit 1 way or another as its old news.  BMR has been around for over a year and Sheep marketplace to me looks like a honeypot.  Its either going to be gone in a few months or a bunch of people are going to end up getting popped from it, though I hope I'm wrong.


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Re: Online blackmarket already has a new home [Re: fapjack]
    #18944313 - 10/07/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

it was news to me :shrug: i am not in the online black market tho so i wasn't looking for it.  its basically like checking out the market on cars and houses, just something to keep an eye to see where the market stands. also as many know i'm a bitcoin trader so i always am interested in news related to the bitcoin econ...


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Re: Online blackmarket already has a new home [Re: SurReality]
    #18944412 - 10/07/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well more people knowing about those sites is good for you as well, otherwise why the hell would the average joe by bitcoins?  It isn't exactly more convenient than using plastic, and its a pain in the ass to liquidate, and its value fluctuates constantly.  It is a good investment, but its a much better investment when BTCs can buy things money can't.


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Re: Online blackmarket already has a new home [Re: fapjack]
    #18944429 - 10/07/13 11:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

there is certainly a conflict of interest that Sur seems to be avoiding mentioning :lol:


but hell I would do the same thing if I were him



and there are many legitimate uses for BTC, like paying ransoms, buying stuff from anyone online that could be considered "suspicious" but is not technically illegal.


for example, a chemistry set.


I also regularly use BTC to donate to causes anonymously.


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