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Roflspammer
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Preparing for a trip while in a bad space
#18940324 - 10/06/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I haven't really tripped in awhile. I microdosed for a good 3 weeks before stopping about a month ago. October is my favorite drug season. I broke up with my gf 2 weeks ago and have been having very negative thoughts. I'm very introverted, self conscious and judgmental of myself. I overthink, over analyze and over think my over thinking all the time. Its a curse. My school grades have slipped, my overall attitude is down and I've become less responsible. Its probably because I don't want to grow up. I'm 18 and a senior and am terrified of my future. I have no plans, great grades, no hobbies, interests or talents. I play xbox, I smoke weed, I work, I go to school... thats it. I don't hang out with friends because I get extreme social anxiety. People always want to chill but I blow them off, and then I feel low and outcast because of it.
Point is is that I have a shit load of shrooms. I want to dose an eighth, or at least 3 grams, next weekend and hike at a state park. Nature is the only thing that genuinely makes me happy. I was planning to hippyflip but I don't think I will ever find some MDMA because of my anti-social personality. So I have resolved to keep it real and just do shrooms. I'm just afraid. I always have hard trips, so my normal dose range is 1-2.5 with a bunch of bud. The last time I did 33.3 g (fresh) i tripped out into a bad place. That was 10 months ago. Ever since then its been 2.5 at the max.
Idk what I'm asking. I guess what can I do to make this upcoming trip more easier. I know alot of shit is going to surface, and I plan to be in the absolute best setting to face them. Comfortable october day, preferably early with the sun shining and good tunes. How do I prepare? How do you prepare for a trip you already know may very well go bad?
Yeah yeah... never trip with the wrong set. I know; but it seems that I never have the right head space. Never. I've always come out better in the end tho
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DeeBee
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Re: Preparing for a trip while in a bad space [Re: Roflspammer]
#18940444 - 10/06/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You just need to have some confidence in yourself to handle whatever comes up in the trip. If I was tripping in this situation I would go heavy and just sit in the dark in my house to try to understand all of these issues that you seem to be having. After you understand, change is then possible...
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Re: Preparing for a trip while in a bad space [Re: DeeBee]
#18940579 - 10/06/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nature, away from everyone, on a sunny day, some good tunes, water and make sure you don't get lost. Ponder on your problems.
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SnowDaze
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good music is very key
for me the wrong soundtrack can lead me bad places
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Re: Preparing for a trip while in a bad space [Re: SnowDaze]
#18941266 - 10/06/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maybe smoke less/no weed. I've only tripped once without weed. And when it was over, I thought it was the easiest trip i've had. Very minimal mindfuk. For me weed tends to make my mind race. The body buzz wasn't as good though.
Also, strearching on the come up seems to help with the inital anxiety/uncomfortableness.
Good tunes are a must.
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Re: Preparing for a trip while in a bad space [Re: Staplerhead]
#18941376 - 10/06/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have neve tripped with music in nature, unless we brought our own instruments.
I can see how it would be nice, but the sounds of nature do just fine as a soundtrack IMO.
As for mindset, that really depends. I tripped in Downtown Manhattan, outside, several times in the weeks after 9/11. It was not exactly the best time for tripping according to the set/setting rules... I found it to be a tool to help me wrap my head around what had happened in my neighborhood. YMMV.
A bad mindset is different from a sad mindset.
Often a trip offers perspective which allows you to realize the things you have been dwelling on are not as important as you have made them out to be.
Good luck.
Trip safe. Trip smart.
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Thayendanegea
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Re: Preparing for a trip while in a bad space [Re: Roflspammer]
#18945312 - 10/07/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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OP....go help someone ...get out of your own head. Do something for someone without expecting any return...Could just be calling someone up to see how they are doing....asking if they need any help with anything. IME....there is absolutely nothing that helps me to take me out of my own head more than this.
Get your head straight...then trip in the great outdoors.   M
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The Centre
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Re: Preparing for a trip while in a bad space [Re: Thayendanegea]
#18948072 - 10/08/13 03:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So you have social anxiety? You over think your over-thinking?
High dose. Isolation. Avoid any weed if it tends to give you any anxiety. If it calms you, have some on you, pre-rolled.
It's gonna be hard, but you need it. I find the trips where I make peace with the fact that difficult things are happening/going to happen, end up being the ones with the most long term reward. A high dose of DMT scared me out of my anti-social behavior, and told me to go re-join society. (I was about to go live in a cave. Serious.) A large dose of Mescaline recently helped me cut ties with the person I actually tried to fix ties with, by taking mescaline together. He ended up refusing the mescaline, while the rest of the group ended up taking it. It was one of the most painful experiences of my life, ending the most significant friendship of my entire life, right after coming down from breakthrough, and still tripping farther than I thought cactus could take you. (Heck, right now, on day 4, without even any weed, I still have the mescaline sparkle and focus, and feel I can 'slip in' without too much effort. 30 mins of Didgeridoo practice should do it, and keep me in for an hour after stopping.) But I am glad it happened while I was on it, because it helped me deal with it, and accept it as fact, since I have been trying to stop the inevitable for a long time.
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Re: Preparing for a trip while in a bad space [Re: The Centre]
#18949581 - 10/08/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for the feedback. Theres no way I can go over 3.5 I am too scared for that. I know the general belief here is to go hard so you can't resist even if you tried. I don't know if I can do that. At this point the plan is to leave on saturday or sunday early in the morning. Maybe before sunrise, maybe not. I'm driving to Jacobsburg State Park (20 min drive) and then I'm parking up there. I'm going to drink a shot or 2 of some liquor to get the edge off and dull myself a little. Dosing as soon as I arrive, and then Im taking a long ass walk. Probably the duration of the trip. I'm bringing my mflb and a half or maybe a gram of some good bud. And then I'm going to find out what the fuck is wrong with me. Hopefully by the end of the 6 hours I will be passing out in my car from the bud, and when I wake up I'll drive home as long as I'm down and comfortable to drive
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Roflspammer
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Re: Preparing for a trip while in a bad space [Re: Roflspammer]
#18960812 - 10/10/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I feel as though psychedelics fucked my brain up. I used to be joyful, outgoing, motivated. I had a lot more enthusiasm for life as a 12-13 year old. I tried LSA at 16 (first psych) and its all been downhill from there. I'm afraid to do shrooms again because I'm afraid I'll do irreversible damage
at the same time, what if it puts me on the right path
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Re: Preparing for a trip while in a bad space [Re: Roflspammer]
#18960816 - 10/10/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Roflspammer said: I feel as though psychedelics fucked my brain up. I used to be joyful, outgoing, motivated. I had a lot more enthusiasm for life as a 12-13 year old. I tried LSA at 16 (first psych) and its all been downhill from there. I'm afraid to do shrooms again because I'm afraid I'll do irreversible damage
at the same time, what if it puts me on the right path
Get secure/stable/confident in your sober thinking before you do psychs IMHO
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The Centre
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I've got an uncomfortable feeling about shrooms that I don't have with cactus... I pretty much gave up on tryptamines a while ago, maybe try some cactus, if and when you can get your hands on it. If that work with you, the stuff just isn't for you. It definitely isn't for everyone at every stage of their lives. But it is definitely for someone at some stage of their lives.
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Roflspammer
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Re: Preparing for a trip while in a bad space [Re: The Centre]
#18965228 - 10/11/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't know like I go off on random over thinking trances, especially when on drugs. I was getting stoned in a church parkinglot today. As I was vaping, the idea came into my head that I should masturbate right there. I don't know why. I just wanted to. I was rational enough to know I would never actually do it. but I thought about doing it. And then i started thinking about how if I did do it I was a bad person. And then I thought about how thinking about that makes me an evil person. And then I thought about how I was crazy because I think I am evil even though I didn't do anything. And then I thought about how insane I may actually be. And it just go on and on like that sometimes. I get into such bad thought loops on bud alone. If I thought like that on shrooms that would put me in a bad trip.
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Re: Preparing for a trip while in a bad space [Re: Roflspammer]
#18965948 - 10/11/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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My only thing to say about it is, don't contact her or anybody you are having problems with unless it is a positive thing you are saying. Like "sorry for blah blah blah". Wait until you're sober. The rest, good vibes bro. Ponder your mind and thoughts
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Re: Preparing for a trip while in a bad space [Re: Mockmanne]
#18966181 - 10/11/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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My advice would be to practice meditation. seriously. With effort it will help calm your mind. less like rapid fire and more like a steady stream. You can obviously see how this will help your trips. Exercising will also greatly help. Take care of ya mind, ya body, and the mushrooms will take care of ya soul
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Re: Preparing for a trip while in a bad space [Re: World of Echo]
#18967319 - 10/12/13 06:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Weather cleared up. Green light for tomorrow. I'm going to try to clean my mind out a bit today. Thanks for the advice. I'm not looking forward to this like I should. I need to restart my brain. I'm on a very wasteful path right now. And shrooms won't change that. I just need to put alot of things in perspective. I don't know how to do that sober therefore drugs
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DeeBee
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Re: Preparing for a trip while in a bad space [Re: World of Echo]
#18967357 - 10/12/13 06:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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World of Echo said: My advice would be to practice meditation. seriously.
Good luck on your trip!
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World of Echo

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Re: Preparing for a trip while in a bad space [Re: Roflspammer]
#18967807 - 10/12/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Roflspammer said: Weather cleared up. Green light for tomorrow. I'm going to try to clean my mind out a bit today. Thanks for the advice. I'm not looking forward to this like I should. I need to restart my brain. I'm on a very wasteful path right now. And shrooms won't change that. I just need to put alot of things in perspective. I don't know how to do that sober therefore drugs
you must strive to learn how to deal with your mind without drugs. start with everyday decisions. small ones, big ones. do not lie to yourself. read a bunch of books. form your ideas. know yourself. meditate. learn patience and acceptance. free yourself of any guilt. in fact abstain from guilt altogether. don't spread garabge feelings. observe your unhealthy feelings and thought processes. form healthy feelings. how? healthy habits. healthy decisions. don't ignore yourself. your are THE ONLY one in this world like you. respect yourself. witness the world challenge your ideas, beliefs, and accept the challenge. challenge yourself.
all in all i think maybe a few years of maturing your mind would benefit you more than drugs. remove yourself from any "bad space". make your life a (FUCKING AMAZING) good space . and THEN trip the fuck out.
 peace
Edited by World of Echo (10/12/13 10:44 AM)
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Re: Preparing for a trip while in a bad space [Re: Roflspammer]
#18968213 - 10/12/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Roflspammer said: How do I prepare?
Prepare by spending the next 15 years creating a really good setting for yourself, then do 5 grams dried cubensis.
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