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First Pins! Blue cakes, lots of underside pinning, Pics & ?'s
    #18939865 - 10/06/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

GT Cakes were birthed and dunked and rolled on 9/23. Took about 11 days for pins to show up. These pictures are 2 days after first sign of pins.

It's been about 2 weeks in a standard SGFC and most of the cakes are bluish. Some more than others. Can't tell too much in the pictures. Should I dunk them or just wait until after my first flush?

There is a ton of pins coming from underneath multiple cakes. I'm not going to mess with flipping or anything but will have to keep an eye out to make sure they don't fall over.

Cake #1:


Cakes #2 and #9 only have a couple pins, no pics.

Cake #3:
Looks like there's one abort, unsure but the cap is completely black. This cake seems to have darker caps than the rest of them. Most of the cake is blueish except for right above those pins is a thick white patch, almost like it grew later or something.

Abort?:


Each side (front, right, back, left side):


Pins go all the way around the bottom!


#4:


#5:


#6 (biggest pins):


#7 bottom:


#8 possible contam?? I had another jar that looked similar to this but was darker. It was already isolated in another container. I cut the other cake in half and it didn't look fully colonized in the middle. Cut the contam or blob or mutant or whatever you want to call it and it looked like a mushroom on the inside. Decided to just leave this one be. The cake is very blue.


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Re: First Pin Porn plus cpl questions [Re: dizzywizzy]
    #18939924 - 10/06/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

looks dry to me. Have you ever misted those cakes?
Also looks like a lot of them aborted.
Your sgfc is also not built according to the specs.
1/4" holes every 2" in a grid.

Couldn't see any contams though, but not sure as I skimmed through the pics.


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Re: First Pin Porn plus cpl questions [Re: spacechildo]
    #18940029 - 10/06/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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looks dry to me. Have you ever misted those cakes?
Also looks like a lot of them aborted.
Your sgfc is also not built according to the specs.
1/4" holes every 2" in a grid.

Couldn't see any contams though, but not sure as I skimmed through the pics.




The SGFC does have 1/4" holes every 2" mostly, sometimes I veered off while drilling and it turned into a 3" gap but I would drill another hole nearby to accomodate.

I mist at least 3 times a day, fan 5+ times a day. I wasn't misting too heavily until I noticed they started turning blue. Fine mist from a couple feet away. Go through a 32 oz spray bottle every day and half/two days now. In the beginning that 32oz spray bottle would last me four or five days.

What about dunking before these pins get too big???


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Re: First Pin Porn plus cpl questions [Re: dizzywizzy]
    #18940231 - 10/06/13 01:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Don't fan so much. Only fan right after misting if at all.

You used the tall jars so your cakes are tall. The bottom is better hydrated than the top top because gravity is pulling the water dow and you are over fanning.

Also, the holes should be on all 6 sides and the perlite should be 4-5 inches deep.


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Re: First Pin Porn plus cpl questions [Re: dizzywizzy]
    #18940290 - 10/06/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

32 fluid ounce of water every 1-2 day? that's equal to 1 Litre/quart right?
That's waaay to much.
Something must be wrong with your setup, your second to last pic shows me your holes are off.

Do you have holes on ALL 6 sides? You need it.
How much perlite's in there? should be 4-6 inches.
Is the chamber elevated?
I'd still say they look dry, but it doesn't make sense if your using half a quart of water every day.

Probably, your cakes have been sogging wet without getting to dry up in between.
Sorry I can't be of any better help here, but somethings definately wrong.


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Re: First Pin Porn plus cpl questions [Re: spacechildo]
    #18940377 - 10/06/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, holes on all six sides. Chamber is elevated. 5" of perlite. I guess I forgot to mention I have another smaller SGFC that I share the squirt bottle with. I just recently started using that much water. Heavy misting/light misting schedule. I usually alternate mist/fan then just fan for FAE. These are in a basement with a heater on the other side of the room. The SGFC is usually around 70 degf and 99% RH. The room is 75-77 degf, 50-60% RH. I have seen the humidity go as low as 91% in the SGFC but that's it.

The main thing I want to know is should I do a dunk now or should I wait for my first flush? Getting new pins every hour or so and they are getting bigger. I added wet verm to the tops of the cakes a couple days ago.


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Re: First Pin Porn plus cpl questions [Re: dizzywizzy]
    #18940550 - 10/06/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Since you're seeing progress, I would allow for the first flush, and then dunk afterwards. And make sure to pull off those aborts.


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Re: First Pin Porn plus cpl questions [Re: OneiricOutsider]
    #18940620 - 10/06/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Since you're seeing progress, I would allow for the first flush, and then dunk afterwards. And make sure to pull off those aborts.




I only see 1 or 2 aborts. These are golden teacher, the caps tend to get darker as they age. It's kind of hard to tell with the pictures the black versus dark red.

Question: On aborts does the whole thing turn black or just the cap?


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Re: First Pin Porn plus cpl questions [Re: dizzywizzy]
    #18940639 - 10/06/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

black cap with no spores making it look black is an abort


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