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LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!!
    #18939292 - 10/06/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

what u gonna need:
D WATER
SODIUM BICARBONATE
POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE
TOLUENE
METHANOL
ETHANOL
DRY ICE(OPTIONAL)
THIONYL CHLORIDE
TARTARIC ACID
NITROGEN
SECURITY RED LIGHT
DIETHYLAMINE

getting LSA alkaloid:
1.) grind 4KG hawaiian baby woodrose seeds to a fine powder (addition of dry ice will allow you to obtain a finer powder)
2.) put water just to cover the seeds, and add a little tartaric acid to that
3.)soak seeds in 500ml of toluene, doing it repeatedly 3 times and discart the toluene layer
4.) soak the seeds in pure distilled or de-ionized water for 3 days with the addition of 5-1g of tartaric acid also agitating
5.) filter and save both parts and repeat step 4 with 1/2 the volume of water/acid
6.) combine the water extractions and discard the seed mush (but save till you have results so the extraction can be repeated if necessary)
7.)slowly sprinkle sodium bicarbonate into the solution till it stops foaming, at this point you can add it by the spoonfull until little white rocks start to form
8.) filter out the chunks and make a dilute bicarb solution (make a saturated solution as above and add 2 volumes of water) and dribble through the filter to wash away the left over bicarb
9.) air dry the filter (away from light and heat) then scrape the crystals onto a clean mirror/ glass, you shoud get 10g of lsa, that being converted to 3-7g of lsd..

LSA to LSD:
Dissolve 10 g lysergic acid amide in 200 ml methanolic
potassium hydroxide solution.
Remove the methanol by vacuum as soon as the amide is
dissolved.
Dissolve the residue which is left into 200 ml of an 8%
solution of potassium hydroxide in water.
Heat this mixture on a steam bath for 1 hour.
Pass a steam of nitrogen gas through the flask during the
heating process. (The ammonia which is evolved in the gas
stream may be titrated with hydrochloric acid in order to
follow the reaction.)
Neutralize the mixture with tartaric acid (neutral to congo
red) and run it through a filter paper.
Extract the mixture with toluene in a separatory funnel. Save
the water layer, discard the toluene layer.
Filter the solution through a filter paper and evaporate.
Upon evaporation, dry crystals of lysergic acid will be
obtained.

LSD to LSD-25:
10g of lsd is added to pure 50ml thionyl chloride and stir for 30 minutes
add 3g diethylamine to the solution and again stir for 30 minutes
then let it sit for 5 minutes and add DH2O to the remaining
thionyl chloride break and then add toluene to get the
other chemicals (that are not LSD) out, repeat the purification
process one more time and then evaporate in vacuum.

Isomerizating iso-LSD into the active LSD-25:

Dissolve the synthesized material into the minimum amount of ethyl alcohol.
Mix a 4 Normal solution of potassium hydroxide in ethanol.
The amount of solution needed is twice the volume of the iso-LSD/ethanol solution.
Add the two solutions together and let the mixture sit for 4 hours at room temperature.
Neutralize the mixture with dilute hydrochloric acid,
then make it slightly basic with ammonium hydroxide.
Extract the mixture with chloroform, sparate the chloroform layer,
and extract this four times with a 25% volume of water.
Evaporate the chloroform in a vacuum. Discard the water extracts.
The material left after evaporation a mixture of iso-LSD and LSD-25, the active LSD predominating.

OBS: all the process shoud be done in some dark security red lightened enviroment
OBS2: use a weak bluelight to see if there is some lsd on the solution before discarting

Edited by website123 (10/11/13 05:57 PM)

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: website123]
    #18939299 - 10/06/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

is anything wrong?
please tell me if there's anything wrong!(and forgive me!:tongue:)

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: website123]
    #18939366 - 10/06/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Have you tested this route yourself or are you asking us if it'll work? You might also have better luck in the chemistry and pharmacology forum.

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: website123]
    #18939367 - 10/06/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

:facepalm3:

I don't have the chemistry knowledge to tell you that it won't work, but my instinct says no.

1kg of HBWR seeds will NOT yield 150-250g LSA. That would mean the seeds were 15-25% LSA by weight.

Also, if you have to ask for help on the shroomery, you probably don't have the skills required for LSD synthesis.

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: website123]
    #18939368 - 10/06/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

:dumbass:


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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: SnowDaze]
    #18939377 - 10/06/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

where is that recipe from?

and you know that you risk your life when you play with ergot alkaloid derivates?


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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: SnowDaze]
    #18939382 - 10/06/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Didn't know you could do an A/B extract for LSA. If someone confirms it works ill try it.

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: SnowDaze]
    #18939383 - 10/06/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

As long as you don't go eating it and use a little common sense and clean practice ergot is really not very dangerous at all.

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: website123]
    #18939399 - 10/06/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

first, im not using ergot..
second, 1kg=1000g> 1seed has 0,25g> 0,25x1000= 250 lol
third, i know that im on the correct way, i want you to point
in my synth the errors, thats all...

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: website123]
    #18939411 - 10/06/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

I do not want you to just say that wont work!
I want you to point scientifically,
then I can take you into account...
:grin:

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: website123]
    #18939418 - 10/06/13 09:41 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

website123 said:
first, im not using ergot..
second, 1kg=1000g> 1seed has 0,25g> 0,25x1000= 250 lol
third, i know that im on the correct way, i want you to point
in my synth the errors, thats all...





Your info is wrong. HBWR seeds contain around 0.14% LSA

So 1kg seeds would yield about 1.4g LSA

You are way off



EDIT: TROLL ALERT

Edited by weilii-coyote (10/06/13 09:44 AM)

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: krypto2000]
    #18939432 - 10/06/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Even Albert hoffmann accidentally poisoned himself with a semisynthetic lysergic acid derivate just by breathing some vapours that had leaked out somewhere; and he knew that it might become dangerous when the stuff has been extracted, concentrated and processed into volatile substances. I really think that breathing vapours and getting skin contact with substances can be quite a bit problematic in a LSD laboratory. some unknown by-products may not be as harmless as the aspired end product. Just saying.


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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: weilii-coyote]
    #18939442 - 10/06/13 09:49 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

actualy 0.25% -----> 2,5g
but in some point youre right...
tnx ill fix it!

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: weilii-coyote]
    #18939447 - 10/06/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Interesting thread

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: website123]
    #18939453 - 10/06/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

website123 said:
actualy 0.25% -----> 2,5g
but in some point youre right...
tnx ill fix it!





Dude no offense but if you can't do simple maths and conversions like that, than you are going to fail miserably. That is a HUUUUGE error

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: weilii-coyote]
    #18939461 - 10/06/13 09:53 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

weilii-coyote said:
Quote:

website123 said:
actualy 0.25% -----> 2,5g
but in some point youre right...
tnx ill fix it!





Dude no offense but if you can't do simple maths and conversions like that, than you are going to fail miserably. That is a HUUUUGE error




ok,ok sorry! relax bro its just a hipotesis!

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: website123]
    #18939594 - 10/06/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

im a good chemist and i think ill try it in 2014!
ive already started growing wood rose xD

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: website123]
    #18939613 - 10/06/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

What's the easiest way to get thionyl chloride?

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: krypto2000]
    #18939709 - 10/06/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

krypto2000 said:
What's the easiest way to get thionyl chloride?



buying it...
in fact.. u are only going to need 5g or a little more
so u can just ask a laboratory if they could give u a sample!
the only expensive thing on the list is the nitrogen :frown:

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: website123]
    #18940003 - 10/06/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

if i was gonna make LSD i sure as hell wouldnt post about it on the internet


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