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Icelander
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Re: Why? [Re: ChRnZN]
#18939203 - 10/06/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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In the same way you can miss your life, by not paying attention.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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ChRnZN
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how do you pay attention while tripping? By asking that question does the mean I am one of the uninitiated?
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Icelander
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Re: Why? [Re: ChRnZN]
#18939223 - 10/06/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I did it by focusing on my inner experience. To your second question I don't even know what it means to be initiated.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Why? [Re: DeeBee]
#18939311 - 10/06/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DeeBee said: You should stay off the computer the day of a trip! I'm guessing it went well? See those colors?
I didnt see colors deebee.... I saw them before I came on the computer.... I saw kaleidoscope. After watching some kaleidoscope youtubes with my friend and his girl.
then i came on the computer and got focus. and then i saw VISUALS.
its crazy. its like the things i wanted to feel... I felt... and my high got killed by my girl leaving the room (she wanted to sleep) and I felt like I took too many and left her out.... but im afraid to give her a lot.... but she never feels anything. on the small doses.
im afraid shes like me? ... or I know she is like me.... but maybe shes not smart ENOUGH to stop it when all goes wrong... if all goes wrong.
but YES for the FIRST time I WAS HIGH!
It wasn't EUPHORIC it was just visuals!
My euphoria is my addictive personality... faking things into enjoyment. 2 grams of shrooms makes me fake this... dizzy oowey goowey feeling....
5 grams of shrooms makes me not able to concentrate... AND feel this dizzy oowey goowey feeling.... AND when I finally get back into control (which I didnt want to) I SEE VISUALS
I saw shadows MOVING
I saw things MOVING DOWN THE WALLS
It is only amazing to me NOW. but back then... THAT wasnt amazing. it was JUST a drug.
Mind fuck of the century....
But i swear guys... i have some sort of power.... like chi...
but i cant control it when I need to show someone... only when I need to show myself.
I believe in chi. I believe its just a parlor trick right now... doing nothing more than bending something to your will. Maybe its another person.... maybe its an animal... maybe its electricity.
Should we harness this some how??? Is it worth wasting your WHOLE life trying to make a newspaper burst into flames? WHAT will that do? Except impress other people... who merely believed in you enough... to make your chi work.
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Edited by MuffinShroomMan (10/06/13 09:27 AM)
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Icelander said:
I'm grateful there was no computers back when I started tripping in the late 60s.
What I think ice meant here.... was he is grateful there were no computers back when he started tripping. Nothing more. No deeper meaning. You forced him to come up with one. And he gave you what he had.
I think his second statement is conjecture though. The one you made him reply with.
Teknix... your video was pleasing to me... this morning.
Noodle... I dont like your flowers. I dont know why. My guess is you said "bought" which implies money.... and further... you didnt buy them... you lied.
But I dont dislike you noodle. Just your post. I'm sorry. I wish I liked your flowers.
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liquidlounge

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Icelander said: That I would have likely missed most of my trip trying to communicate on a fucking computer. 
What you wrote was meant straight forward, I thought there was something more to it.
I never understood the necessity to get out of your house or away from your room/computer when tripping and I thought you were in the same lane. There's something about doing your daily routines while tripping, it makes you see the patterns. Computer is also a good tool for communication.
Misunderstanding nonetheless.
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Withinity
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Its nice to literally stop and smell the roses while tripping which you cant do in your Room. 
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Edited by Withinity (10/06/13 11:26 AM)
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liquidlounge

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You can buy them in the store and smell all you want in your room. Buy with roots as well if you're prone to a guilt trip.
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Withinity
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But if i buy them in the store they wont be exposed to the elements nor will their be any insects inhabiting them, i may miss something very interesting!
I remember this one time i was still semi effected by LSD in the morning after tripping through the night and i was chilling outside when i saw something happen so suddenly and effectively on such a tiny scale which was this spider coming out of a tiny hole of like 1-2mm max that was in the cement between the bricks on a wall. It just came out of its hole and snatched the flying insect back in. It was an amazing third of a second.
I'm curious, If/when virtual reality technology becomes widely available would you ever leave your room being able to experience any situation just by putting on some Nerve gear ?
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Edited by Withinity (10/06/13 12:10 PM)
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liquidlounge

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But if i buy them in the store they wont be exposed to the elements nor will their be any insects inhabiting them, i may miss something very interesting!
I am sure you could grow them yourself outside and then take them in when you trip.
I remember this one time i was still semi effected by LSD in the morning after tripping through the night and i was chilling outside when i saw something happen so suddenly and effectively on such a tiny scale which was this spider coming out of a tiny hole of like 1-2mm max that was in the cement between the bricks on a wall. It just came out of its hole and snatched the flying insect back in. It was an amazing third of a second.
That would instantly remind me of the vicious nature we're all part of.
I'm curious, If/when virtual reality technology becomes widely available would you ever leave your room being able to experience any situation just by putting on some Nerve gear ?
I want to feel good, so if that was my best option I wouldn't leave my room.
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Withinity
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I wont try too convince you otherwise whatever floats your boat my friend.
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liquidlounge

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You're a good asset to the forum IMO, don't take my stance or way of conversing as aggressive.
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DeeBee
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liquidlounge said: Who are you to say what one should?
Well seeing as me and him were conversing for hours earlier because he looking looking for advice on tripping, I would say I have a right to suggest things...
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Re: Why? [Re: DeeBee]
#18940755 - 10/06/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would
Doesn't this sound better than "you should"?
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Withinity
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liquidlounge said: You're a good asset to the forum IMO, don't take my stance or way of conversing as aggressive.
All good, i never perceived you as aggressive.
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liquidlounge said: I would
Doesn't this sound better than "you should"?
I asked him for advice... and he gave it to me. You didn't know the back story. Submit.
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Also... I learned a word today... randomly on the interwebs....
Meliorism - the belief that the world gets better, the belief that humans can improve the world.
Going to try and use it. Makes me feel good knowing this word. Really good.
-------------------- "Mein Fuhrer!!!! I can WALK!!!!"
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Sse
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We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves strong. The amount of work is the same.
-Carlos Castaneda
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"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions." -Thich Nhat Hanh instant "Experience always goes beyond ideas"
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Icelander
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Re: Why? [Re: Sse]
#18941796 - 10/06/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What a fucking great writer he was. He made those stories come alive and become almost believable. And some of what he wrote works as a viable system for living in this world as I have verified in my own life to the degree I've been able to practice it.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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zZZz
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castaneda was a good writer. but he was also a hypocrite who stoled knowledge from others.
wannabe brujo
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