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Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help
    #18938375 - 10/05/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hi all,

I have been a long time lurker of the forums and decided to sign up to hopefully one day give back to the community in some way.

Unfortunately I am brought here today with a possible issue. In my haste in trying to cultivate some Panaeolus cyanescens, I immediately jumped on the pf tek method.

So my first batch (approx 4 1/2 pint mason jars) failed.

My second batch was a success, as of two days ago I removed them from the jars, did my 24 hour soak, then verm casing, made a grow box with a 4 inch perlite base for moisture, and placed the 5 cakes on foil onto the perlite.


My issue/reason for posting today is that after much searching, I have sound that I should have used manure in my cakes, and then manure again for the fruiting stage. My question being will the way I have done it work, or have I set myself up for failure?

Finally, can I fix it? If pictures are necessary I can provide them.

thank you guys in advance,
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Gordoroth]
    #18938571 - 10/06/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you have gotten the panaeolus to grow on a brf that's not including dung, good job but you will likely not produce fruits.

What I would do if I were you would be to pasteurize some poo, crumble your cakes and lay trays. Make sure the trays are not more than 2 inches in depth.

And pans will also need a casing layer, so be sure to read about that and be prepared to create one.

Good luck, keep us posted!


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Midnight Cyclone]
    #18938698 - 10/06/13 01:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yes it was the BRF method, the first batch I did got too much water in them during the pressure cook and so became quite soggy. With those I tried an outdoor tek to try and salvage them, that was approx two weeks ago.

So after a bit of searching, I think I have an idea of how to go about it now.

Get some pasteurised cow poo, crumble the cakes and mix with the poo, 2 inches max depth in trays.

From there prepare a casing layer, and put a casing layer over cake/poo mix. Was going to use this tek:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12507354/page/3

Would I be able to put those trays in my box with the perlite?

Thanks again for your help.

Just on a side note, has anyone got any fruits from a BRF PF tek with Panaeolus cyanescens?


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Gordoroth]
    #18942445 - 10/06/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hi Guys,

Just a question, pretty strapped for cash right now but I have some chicken poop laying around (by laying around I mean it's a bag I bought from the hardware store, not fresh stuff off the ground), would this be ok to mix with the crumbled cakes then cover with my casing layer?

Thanks
(:


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Gordoroth]
    #18942498 - 10/06/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

more of an additive then a bulk sub


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: cronicr]
    #18942508 - 10/06/13 09:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Pan cyans need horse manure. Chicken dung is not good unless composed (only add 5% to total sub ratio)


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Blake_Shroom]
    #18942548 - 10/06/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Cpoo will work too


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #18942594 - 10/06/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry guys maybe I asked the question wrong, The cakes have fully colonised on the BRF PF tek.

Midnight replied to me above and said that I needed to make trays, my question is, can I use chicken poo for the trays?

Sorry and thanks again.
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Gordoroth]
    #18942617 - 10/06/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No. Best go get some horse or cow manure. Chicken dung only wworks if its composted (at least for cubes. I would imagine it would be the same for Pam cyans)


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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Blake_Shroom]
    #18942683 - 10/06/13 10:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Is there a way I could mix it with something (I wont be able to get any other dung for about two weeks, by then my cakes would have died? I guess.

I have the following avaliable:

*Verm
*Perlite
*Peat Moss
*Coir
*Seedling soil
*Hay
*Potting mix
*BRF

Thanks guys,
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Gordoroth]
    #18998337 - 10/19/13 01:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hi guys,

Just thought I would post an update in case anyone comes across this thread.

So, I birthed a total of 3 cakes into a homemade humidity chamber and they have started to fruit. (These were the BRF PF Tek method ones.) See below.



Then with the remaining two I crumbled them up with some chicken manure, straw and then cased them with peat moss and a bit of perlite (this is all I had) they are slowly colonizing, I will report back when anything new comes up.

Thanks for reading,
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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Gordoroth]
    #18998802 - 10/19/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That's not panaeolus.

Those are cubensis fruits.

EDIT:

Give them more FAE, and harvest them just as the veil is beginning to tear. :thumbup:


Edited by Midnight Cyclone (10/19/13 08:45 AM)


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