|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
Gordoroth
Stranger
Registered: 10/05/13
Posts: 12
Loc: Australia
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
|
Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help
#18938375 - 10/05/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Hi all,
I have been a long time lurker of the forums and decided to sign up to hopefully one day give back to the community in some way.
Unfortunately I am brought here today with a possible issue. In my haste in trying to cultivate some Panaeolus cyanescens, I immediately jumped on the pf tek method.
So my first batch (approx 4 1/2 pint mason jars) failed.
My second batch was a success, as of two days ago I removed them from the jars, did my 24 hour soak, then verm casing, made a grow box with a 4 inch perlite base for moisture, and placed the 5 cakes on foil onto the perlite.
My issue/reason for posting today is that after much searching, I have sound that I should have used manure in my cakes, and then manure again for the fruiting stage. My question being will the way I have done it work, or have I set myself up for failure?
Finally, can I fix it? If pictures are necessary I can provide them.
thank you guys in advance, (:
|
Midnight Cyclone
StrangerDanger
Registered: 05/29/13
Posts: 399
Loc: oo ess aye oo ess aye
Last seen: 10 years, 11 days
|
Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Gordoroth]
#18938571 - 10/06/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
If you have gotten the panaeolus to grow on a brf that's not including dung, good job but you will likely not produce fruits.
What I would do if I were you would be to pasteurize some poo, crumble your cakes and lay trays. Make sure the trays are not more than 2 inches in depth.
And pans will also need a casing layer, so be sure to read about that and be prepared to create one.
Good luck, keep us posted!
|
Gordoroth
Stranger
Registered: 10/05/13
Posts: 12
Loc: Australia
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
|
|
Yes it was the BRF method, the first batch I did got too much water in them during the pressure cook and so became quite soggy. With those I tried an outdoor tek to try and salvage them, that was approx two weeks ago.
So after a bit of searching, I think I have an idea of how to go about it now.
Get some pasteurised cow poo, crumble the cakes and mix with the poo, 2 inches max depth in trays.
From there prepare a casing layer, and put a casing layer over cake/poo mix. Was going to use this tek:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12507354/page/3
Would I be able to put those trays in my box with the perlite?
Thanks again for your help.
Just on a side note, has anyone got any fruits from a BRF PF tek with Panaeolus cyanescens?
|
Gordoroth
Stranger
Registered: 10/05/13
Posts: 12
Loc: Australia
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
|
Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Gordoroth]
#18942445 - 10/06/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Hi Guys,
Just a question, pretty strapped for cash right now but I have some chicken poop laying around (by laying around I mean it's a bag I bought from the hardware store, not fresh stuff off the ground), would this be ok to mix with the crumbled cakes then cover with my casing layer?
Thanks (:
Edited by Gordoroth (10/06/13 09:34 PM)
|
cronicr



Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 61,436
Loc: Van Isle
Last seen: 2 years, 8 days
|
Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Gordoroth]
#18942498 - 10/06/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
more of an additive then a bulk sub
--------------------
  It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn I'm tired do me a favor
|
Blake_Shroom
Stranger



Registered: 09/09/09
Posts: 1,070
Last seen: 1 year, 2 months
|
Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: cronicr]
#18942508 - 10/06/13 09:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Pan cyans need horse manure. Chicken dung is not good unless composed (only add 5% to total sub ratio)
|
Sagescruffy
CH



Registered: 10/30/09
Posts: 2,011
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 6 months, 12 days
|
Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Blake_Shroom]
#18942548 - 10/06/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Cpoo will work too
-------------------- Love.  
|
Gordoroth
Stranger
Registered: 10/05/13
Posts: 12
Loc: Australia
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
|
Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Sagescruffy]
#18942594 - 10/06/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Sorry guys maybe I asked the question wrong, The cakes have fully colonised on the BRF PF tek.
Midnight replied to me above and said that I needed to make trays, my question is, can I use chicken poo for the trays?
Sorry and thanks again. (:
|
Blake_Shroom
Stranger



Registered: 09/09/09
Posts: 1,070
Last seen: 1 year, 2 months
|
Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Gordoroth]
#18942617 - 10/06/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
No. Best go get some horse or cow manure. Chicken dung only wworks if its composted (at least for cubes. I would imagine it would be the same for Pam cyans)
|
Gordoroth
Stranger
Registered: 10/05/13
Posts: 12
Loc: Australia
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
|
Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Blake_Shroom]
#18942683 - 10/06/13 10:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Is there a way I could mix it with something (I wont be able to get any other dung for about two weeks, by then my cakes would have died? I guess.
I have the following avaliable:
*Verm *Perlite *Peat Moss *Coir *Seedling soil *Hay *Potting mix *BRF
Thanks guys, (:
|
Gordoroth
Stranger
Registered: 10/05/13
Posts: 12
Loc: Australia
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
|
Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Gordoroth]
#18998337 - 10/19/13 01:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Hi guys,
Just thought I would post an update in case anyone comes across this thread.
So, I birthed a total of 3 cakes into a homemade humidity chamber and they have started to fruit. (These were the BRF PF Tek method ones.) See below.

Then with the remaining two I crumbled them up with some chicken manure, straw and then cased them with peat moss and a bit of perlite (this is all I had) they are slowly colonizing, I will report back when anything new comes up.
Thanks for reading, (:
|
Midnight Cyclone
StrangerDanger
Registered: 05/29/13
Posts: 399
Loc: oo ess aye oo ess aye
Last seen: 10 years, 11 days
|
Re: Panaeolus cyanescens Cultivation help [Re: Gordoroth]
#18998802 - 10/19/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
That's not panaeolus.
Those are cubensis fruits.
EDIT:
Give them more FAE, and harvest them just as the veil is beginning to tear.
Edited by Midnight Cyclone (10/19/13 08:45 AM)
|
|