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Re: We stopped dreaming [Re: psi]
#18937574 - 10/05/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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But we have to open the World War II memorial so a bunch of old dudes can continue to crow about them being the greatest generation. Jesus Christ, it's been 60 years, talk about something else for a change. And your baseball caps look stupid too.
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Konichiwaffle said: I disagree, biology and biotechnology should be the #1 goal in this country.
Agreed, though for different reasons than you listed.
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The president decides how we do everything, if fucking poker players are making more then the Risk players that's a big fucking problem.
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sVs said: Somebody already made a thread about how terribly outraged we should be that a bunch of nerds got sent home for a couple of weeks. Also how this impacts basically nothing whatsoever.
WTF I'm not outraged but you seem to be incapable of seeing past the end of your nose. Wait til the unemployment report comes out, don't you think the consumer confidence will suffer companies will slow production causing more layoffs in anticipation of less spending. There will be no improvements slated to produce more product more efficiently, The marketswill take a sharp dip even on extremely sound companies etc etc. Not to mention dumping 800,000 people onto the unemployment rolls. Would it ever occur to you that that would put a huge strain on the system. The feds also subsidize state and local governments, What happens then huh ? I personally think that most federal workers are overpaid but it is what it is and it will have ramifications on more than one level down the road. Everyone that cries for smaller government should shut the fuck up unless they have a sound solution. And don't even get me started on that fucking sonoabitch bastard dickhead douche bag fuck head asslicking cunt Obama. If I told ya how I really felt You would have to wash your eyes out with soap.
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Re: We stopped dreaming [Re: r00tuuu123]
#18937670 - 10/05/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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People that ask for small gov usually are EXTREMELY FUCKING DEPENDENT on it
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RiderOnTheStorm said: It is not conspiracy that our national space endeavor is a side effect or complimentary product of our military endeavors. I've heard both Sagan and Tyson express the same idea, the former going as far to say that the moon landing was more or less a publicity stunt to develop the tech for ICBMs, iirc.
Yeah I don't think it's too controversial at all to say that the space race and the nuclear arms race between the US and USSR were very closely tied. The Germans developed the V-2 rocket near the end of WWII, and the US managed to get to its development team before the Russians did. After WWII both countries devoted huge amounts of resources to developing nuclear weapons and rockets to deliver them efficiently, and the space race was a way of showing off and trying to demoralize the enemy. Obviously there were other benefits too, including additional military ones (the ability to spy from satellites for example.)
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Re: We stopped dreaming [Re: Konyap]
#18937692 - 10/05/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Illyabo said: People that ask for small gov usually are EXTREMELY FUCKING DEPENDENT on it
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Re: We stopped dreaming [Re: Konyap]
#18937712 - 10/05/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Illyabo said: People that ask for small gov usually are EXTREMELY FUCKING DEPENDENT on it
it'd probably be too much to ask for proof of that statement?
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Re: We stopped dreaming [Re: psi]
#18937728 - 10/05/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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psi said:
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RiderOnTheStorm said: It is not conspiracy that our national space endeavor is a side effect or complimentary product of our military endeavors. I've heard both Sagan and Tyson express the same idea, the former going as far to say that the moon landing was more or less a publicity stunt to develop the tech for ICBMs, iirc.
Yeah I don't think it's too controversial at all to say that the space race and the nuclear arms race between the US and USSR were very closely tied. The Germans developed the V-2 rocket near the end of WWII, and the US managed to get to its development team before the Russians did. After WWII both countries devoted huge amounts of resources to developing nuclear weapons and rockets to deliver them efficiently, and the space race was a way of showing off and trying to demoralize the enemy. Obviously there were other benefits too, including additional military ones (the ability to spy from satellites for example.)
so if the space agency is simply there to advance the military, what is the reason for the curiosity rover on mars?
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So that our military can get to Mars first, duh.
Plus we've got to be ready for aliens showing up, we can't expect to develop Halo suits after the first attack. BSG was pretty clear about that.
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To mine it for military resources.
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Konyap

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Konichiwaffle said: To mine it for military resources.
QFT
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JesusIsLord said: so if the space agency is simply there to advance the military, what is the reason for the curiosity rover on mars? 
I never claimed that NASA is only there to advance the military, obviously it has developed into something much broader than that. Its origins were very closely tied to military technology and goals (and their associated funding) though.
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JesusIsLord
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Konichiwaffle said: To mine it for military resources.
right. that's a logistically sound idea. shipping things 350 million miles through space. you may as well send an aircraft carrier from america to africa to ship them a can of campbells soup
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What if we like built giant ships in space though and they could travel faster then the speed of light?
We'd have access to sooo much shit, like planets made of diamond or filled with fuel.
Most of those can be found in our solar system.
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Re: We stopped dreaming [Re: psi]
#18937784 - 10/05/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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psi said:
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JesusIsLord said: so if the space agency is simply there to advance the military, what is the reason for the curiosity rover on mars? 
I never claimed that NASA is only there to advance the military, obviously it has developed into something much broader than that. Its origins were very closely tied to military technology and goals (and their associated funding) though.
I quoted you but didn't disagree with anything you said just the quote you nested.
I am shitty at internet forum communication. 
I don't deny it was probably primarily born out of military ambitions and not any altruistic sense of exploration or what have you
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OK cool.
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Re: We stopped dreaming [Re: psi]
#18937803 - 10/05/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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JesusIsLord
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Re: We stopped dreaming [Re: Konyap]
#18937811 - 10/05/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Illyabo said: What if we like built giant ships in space though and they could travel faster then the speed of light?
We'd have access to sooo much shit, like planets made of diamond or filled with fuel.
Most of those can be found in our solar system.
which planets in our solar system are made of diamond 
besides there is nothing special about diamonds, just that women want them for no fucking apparent reason other than jeweler commercials make them feel like if men don't get them one they don't love them or some crock of shit.
but i like your idea overall. light speed - giant ass ship. hellz yeh. that's why i think nasa should be back in the spotlight. forget dshs. hell if you want foodstamps, sweep nasas floors, learn about rockets and shit.
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