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First Reishi grow.
    #18937356 - 10/05/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This is my first attempt at growing Ganoderma lucidum resinaceum. Growing from an oak shaving block.  The culture used was one that I got from cloning a wild fruit that was growing in a hole in the ground under a stump. This is my first attempt at growing anything from a clone I took myself from a wild specimen. The block is about 9x5x3 inches and the largest conk was about 3 inches across. It was a very fast colonizer, In colonized the block in under a week from grain and started pinning a week or so after. The pins were allowed to grow in the bag until about three inches tall when I decided to cut the top off the bag and place it in the fruiting chamber to give it more air flow. The conks began to grow into a sort of cat paw shape for a few days. I began to mist the conks 2-3 times a day and they started to take on a more traditional conk shape. The fruits took about 3-4 weeks total time from pin to conk. How do they look?




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MrCloudys guide to North American GanodermaUpdated A rough guide to North American Ganoderma species, with an emphasis on the laccate species.


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Re: First Reishi grow. [Re: Forrester]
    #18937647 - 10/05/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This is a picture of the reishi I cloned from. It was actually found growing in a residential neighborhood right next to a sidewalk. There was a tree stump and the roots had formed kind of a cave type thing. There were two mushrooms, I grabbed the cleaner specimen.



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Re: First Reishi grow. [Re: Forrester]
    #18943282 - 10/07/13 03:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Does anyone know if you can get multiple flushes from reishi?


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Re: First Reishi grow. [Re: fatal222316]
    #18951770 - 10/08/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It was oak shavings enriched with malt extract. Place inside a grow bag and pressure cooked.  We tried the same thing with pine shavings and it colonized just as fast but never pinned.


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Re: First Reishi grow. [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #18961846 - 10/10/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)




New pins growing from the stems of the previous conks!


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Re: First Reishi grow. [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #18969048 - 10/12/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The new pins are already showing pores, is this normal? I currently have the block in a container with low airflow with the intention of growing out antlers then switching to the high airflow box for growing the conks on them similar to the first flush. 



The pores don't signify that the pins are going to stop growing do they? The one in the photo is about the size of a dime.


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Re: First Reishi grow. [Re: Forrester]
    #19088469 - 11/05/13 02:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I recently visited the town where I got the original reishi from and checked up on the stump that it was found under. The mushroom seems to have been busy while I was gone.



It went from a hardly visible half conk in a hole in the ground to insane growth up to three feet from the original hole.


Also while I was away my second flush sporulated and covered most of the fruiting chamber in a fine brown dust.






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Re: First Reishi grow. [Re: Ganzig]
    #19093498 - 11/06/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Ganzig said:
Im so excited to grow this culture out.

It is doing just fine BTW. No contams or anything.





That's good to hear, I was wondering how it was working out for you.


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Re: First Reishi grow. [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #19709514 - 03/17/14 05:13 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry for the thread necromancy, but I have recently made the determination that the mushroom I thought was G.lucidum is not in fact G.lucidum but rather G. resinaceum. As it turns out G.lucidum does not occur in North America, so any species collected that have been identified as G. lucidum are something else entirely.

I have made this distinction after coming across resinaceum in literature a few times and remembering a fruit that a colleague of mine grew of my culture which extruded a brown crystalline resin. So to anyone that received a culture from me, it is not lucidum but is actually resinaceum. This likely explains the vigor with which it grows. Another thing I noticed is people claim their lucidum is hard as wood, and although mine is woody inside, it has a much softer texture than other reishi, almost a styrofoam type feel.  I am interested to see how it has performed for anyone else as well.

Again my appologies for the thread necromancy, just letting people know I misidentified my mushroom initially. I am still learning, when I found it I only knew of three Ganodermas, Lucidum, Tsugae, and Applanatum. And I do not wish to give out mislabelled cultures.


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Re: First Reishi grow [Re: Forrester]
    #19711312 - 03/18/14 12:12 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

The mushroom known a Ganoderma lucidum was described from England. This study seems to confirm my identification of resinaceum. Specimens from all over the world were tested genetically and samples labelled G.lucidum  from the United States were shown to fit phylogenetically in with resinaceum. 

It also turns out that Ganoderma lucidum from china is yet another species, Ganoderma sichuanense. It would appear that Ganoderma is a very complicated genus with a high level of adaptability. I do not think that it has any major impact on the medicinal components in the mushrooms themselves, as they all seem to have a similar make up. I just noticed some inconsistencies between what I had read about G.lucidum and how my reishi grew out, I assumed it was due to my growing methods but the more I looked into it the clearer it all became.  It was mostly the texture, I have read that people have a hard time cutting reishi up, but I can take a conk from my reishi and rip it with my hands if I choose to. I have known for a while that my species was different than G.lucidum and recently I was able to put a name to it.

I do think that there are other Ganoderma species out there masquerading as G.lucidum, I don't think resinaceum is the only one. I think that the species are so similar that early mycologists didn't really distinguish them and they all got lumped in with G.lucidum. And that knowledge just kind of stayed until genetic testing hinted at something else.

This mushroom has been quite the learning experience for me, when I first found it, I knew next to nothing about reishi other than I was pretty sure that what I found was it. I try to learn everything that I can about what I am growing and working with, I have an incredible curiosity when it comes to the world of mushrooms.

*Edit* Honestly I did not actually have a source, I was going off from what Alan Rockefeller has posted a few times. So thank you for asking me for a source and making me actually do the research myself.:smile: That's how you really learn things.


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MrCloudys guide to North American GanodermaUpdated A rough guide to North American Ganoderma species, with an emphasis on the laccate species.


Edited by Mrcloudy (03/18/14 12:18 AM)


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Re: First Reishi grow [Re: knomadic_niki]
    #21062338 - 01/03/15 05:11 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

I have done a great deal of research since the last time this thread was commented on. As far as the European Ganoderma lucidum, I am not sure if there have been any studies that have looked at it in particular, it can be hard to clarify because the name has been miss applied so many times. But from what I can tell, most studies that have looked at G.lucidum have been looking at the Asian mushroom (Ganoderma lingzhi).

I have not seen any studies that have looked at many North American species, there is one somewhere that looked at G"applanatum" (Probably G.brownii) form British Columbia. There are a few that have looked at G.resinaceum no location data, and the North American species of resinaceum is also distinct from the European resinaceum.


The research so far indicates that the Asian species contains the highest number of medicinal compounds and in the highest levels. There needs to be a lot more research done, but first someone has to clarify the species, so that proper names are being used, otherwise you will get one study who looks at G.lucidum from one part of the world, conclude it has little or no medicinal value and further confusing the situation because they got the wrong mushroom.

I have been looking for ways for an amateur to quantify the medicinal compounds in the Ganoderma. Me and Ryan have a decent cross section of species to begin testing once we find someone with the knowledge and equipment willing to help us out. We have sent off a large bunch of samples for genetic sequencing, this will help to clarify Ganoderma, especially on the Eastern half of the US. We are hoping to test different strains within the same species as well to see if there is a variance of medicine within a species.


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Re: First Reishi grow [Re: Forrester]
    #21132679 - 01/17/15 08:32 AM (9 years, 12 days ago)

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Forrester said:
Damn Cloudy, you've come a long way since the beginning of this post :wink:

Definitely interested to see anything you find out in the variations of medicinals across species! 

Also, sorry I haven't gotten you that culture I promised yet.  Dealing with a lot of new-house issues and haven't had time to do SHIT.  My culture fridge also decided to leak water all over everything I had in it so I don't know if anything in there is even viable/un-contaminated... but hopefully I'll have time to look into it one of these days. 

Anyway, thanks for your continued work and great information :smile:

Hopefully I'll be back around more in the near future, in the mean time I'm trying to become an HVAC expert :lol:




It has been quite an experience, I have collected somewhere around 30 different Ganoderma cultures and out of  the ones I fruited, my original culture here is the fastest of them. Quite a way to start. This is the one I sent you Niki.

I will definitely keep you all posted if we manage to figure out the medcinal content. Last we discussed it Ryan was looking into contacting some local testing centers for Medicinal Cannabis, since they are likely to have Gas Chromatographs and mass spectrometers. He also has a decent number of European species he just got in and plans to sequence, that should be interesting. I am looking forward to that culture Forrester, take your time sounds like you have a lot on your plate at the moment.


Here are some spores from one of my original fruits seen under my new microscope, this thing is a major improvement.



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Re: First Reishi grow [Re: knomadic_niki]
    #21133085 - 01/17/15 10:56 AM (9 years, 12 days ago)

We are sending them to a professor at the University of Minnesota, Dr Robert Blanchette.

Arches, that is odd, Is the light source from the side at all?


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Re: First Reishi grow [Re: knomadic_niki]
    #21133467 - 01/17/15 12:27 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

I have not experimented with it much, always had the light directly or mostly above the fruits. Though I have read that it can have an impact.


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