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rev0kadavur
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Re: Brown Fly Agarics? [Re: Ganzig]
#18940765 - 10/06/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Any splits around the bulb?
I am thinking that the Coloration in the stipe is because of moisture/saturation... and dirt, that you can clearly see all over them..
My opinion is that this is a light colored Patherina or possibly Brunnescens.
It doesnt have the greenish-sheeny-streaky look of the cap that phalloides usually has...
My Assessment:
Definitely not a Muscaria, Lacks the Color and the Bracelets.
Not a Warty Deathcap because there is not a tinge of yellow~ The same reason is why it is not Amanita Flavorubescens.
Doubt its a Real or False Death Cap because it lacks the typical look/color in the caps and volva sac is not as defined as usual.. -could've been rubbed off or something? Though, one of the mushrooms pictured has more of a sac similar to that of phalloides.
I doubt its a Gem because there is no blushing and the color is too brown, though structurally its comparable.
Hard to say about the Blusher, but unlikely... could be the reason for the stem coloration? -not sure if the photo accurately depicts the colors?
The brown coloration in both the cap and stem is similar to the Cleft-Foot Amanita, but I dont see the cleft traits and the bulb is not the typical shape of Brunnescens... there is also no streaky'ness to the cap... -but maybe its because of water saturation? There is also no noticeable prominence in the center of the cap, but I suppose it could be conditional?
The Visual Features match the Panther the most... The Cap Color, Bulb Shape, Volva, collar-like roll of veil tissue remnants, etc... However, the browning of the stem is not always typical.. However both the European and American Panthers both can become 'tan' in age.. not as a bruise, but as a change in coloration... -again, perhaps its the water saturation?
And it looks nothing like any of the other Amanitas that I know of, so its not them.
So my Conclusion from Visual Inspection with the pictures and info given, location considered, I would say it is likely Amanita Pantherina. 
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Light-Colored Pantherina (One on the Left showing the Tan in age)

Amanita pantherina v. velatipes

Amanita Gemmata

Amanita Francheti

Amanita Phalloides

Amanita Citrina

Amanita Rubescens

Amanita Brunnescens

Amanita Ameripanthera
Edited by rev0kadavur (10/06/13 04:01 PM)
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TheFoolOnTheHill
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i threw the brown ones away yesterday. i also dont think they are amanita phalloides but if im not 100% sure what mushroom i have i dont eat it
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rev0kadavur
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Was using your mushroom to refine my ID skills.... Trying to learn the families in detail and structuring my self education.
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