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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#18932778 - 10/04/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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anything by Phillip K. Dick.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18932797 - 10/04/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Legend said: Tao Teh Ching by Laozi
yikes, sounds great but i read that the translation (naturally being ancient Chinese) is gonna be impeccably difficult to process, as it was originally intended to be read in Chinese.
oh well, i can draw my own conclusions from it. surely i can find this in PDF form.
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yogabunny said: the diving bell & the butterfly
locked in syndrome eh? sounds depressing.
or you could try the Tao of Pooh by Benjamin Hoff (like winnie the poo, there is also a Tao of Piglet I think - I read both for martial arts study back in the day). It's eastern philosophy in western friendly format.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: lowbrow]
#18932897 - 10/04/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: anything by Phillip K. Dick.
i'm reading him too.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18932951 - 10/04/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i love philip k. dick. 'the man in the high castle', 'flow my tears the policeman said' and 'do androids dream of electric sheep' are my favorites. i'm an evangelist for boom! studios's line for line adaptation of 'androids' for comics. excellent.
i'll also throw in voltaire's 'candide'. phiosophy texts are amazing, but they can make for very tedious and difficult reading even with an instructor to flesh out what ideas are being argued for and whatever other context is relevant to those texts. 'candide' however is a novel and it's a great starter for people new to philosophy. it's also just a damn good book.
i also really enjoyed reading j.d. sallinger's 'franny and zooey'. just like 'candide', funny and quite profound.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: millzy]
#18932957 - 10/04/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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do androids dream of electric sheep, he wrote that? nice. i didn't know that. i'm read the Divine Invasion.
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'candide' however is a novel and it's a great starter for people new to philosophy. it's also just a damn good book.
thanks, i could use a "starter" book.
i am getting so many suggestions, guys, thanks a lot.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18932986 - 10/04/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry into Values by Robert M. Pirsig
Confessions by St. Augustine
Fear: The History of a Political Idea by Corey Robin
Easy books to read as well.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: millzy]
#18933006 - 10/04/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh, and i'll also add that if you're wanting to start with philosophy and 'candide' doesn't seem like your thing, aristotle might be a good place to start. i'm a big fan of plato, but you have to be very acquainted with the themes and context associated with his dialogs or the important stuff will go right over your head. aristotle is much more straight forward and not as context dependent as plato or other philosophers.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18933030 - 10/04/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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This translation, from what I understand, comes pretty close to the real deal.
It had help in translation by Gia Fu Feng, a world-renowned Taoist translator/teacher who taught in the US.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Konichiwaffle]
#18933060 - 10/04/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh, also, if you are interested in reading some of the best philosophy that came out of the 20th century.....based on my (a nobody's) opinion, of course....than look into Wittgenstein. Philosophical Investigations, On Certainty, and the Tractatus would be good to read.
A lot of people I talk to about him seem to have never heard of him before, so here is the wiki link of him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Wittgenstein
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Konichiwaffle]
#18933064 - 10/04/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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This translation, from what I understand, comes pretty close to the real deal.
It had help in translation by Gia Fu Feng, a world-renowned Taoist translator/teacher who taught in the US.
thanks, i'll try and find that one.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: akira_akuma]
#18935973 - 10/05/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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On Bullshit by Harry Frankfurt
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#18936168 - 10/05/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you're into metaethics, check out "Whatever Happened to Good and Evil" by Russ Shafer-Landau. It provided some compelling arguments for an objective morality.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Hemlock]
#18936214 - 10/05/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The art of War by Sun Tzu, its about a famous Chinese commander General who existed many century's ago who was of the greatest Generals of all time. Infact some modern day Chinese generals still use his teachings. You can even apply his teaching to every day dilemmas
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: geazerpleaser]
#18936219 - 10/05/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ulysses by James Joyce.
You'll get a literary boner before the first chapter is read.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: hTx]
#18936259 - 10/05/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you want an easy reading intro to philosophy you should read Sophie's World.
Ulysses is widely regarded as one of the most unreadable books of all time.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#18936421 - 10/05/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ulysses is widely regarded as one of the most unreadable books of all time.
the joyce's one or the homer original? because I red the homer's one and while beign very tedious at times it's something everyone can enjoy.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Synth Ethics]
#18936504 - 10/05/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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first ptaahotep laid it down. then Amenemope. then lao tzu. then plato.
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Synth Ethics]
#18936538 - 10/05/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ulysses is widely regarded as one of the most unreadable books of all time.
the joyce's one or the homer original? because I red the homer's one and while beign very tedious at times it's something everyone can enjoy.
The Joyce one
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#18936803 - 10/05/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd say Ulysses was very readable/enjoyable.
Finnegans Wake, however...
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Re: what are some really awesome novels or insightful, or philosophical books? [Re: hTx]
#18936880 - 10/05/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Nietzsche was...ya
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