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spacechildo
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Sockadin]
#18908324 - 09/29/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm gonna throw out a wild guess here and say you first hydrated/soaked your grains, boiled and dried, Then you went ahead and added 150mL or so water to the jars before pc'ing. (The old way)
Hence your double amount of water.
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IoRhinz



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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Ghost4]
#18909142 - 09/29/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: Wait, this guy serisouly is asking for help. Lets start with a Q/A session.
At what point did you add 1/2 cup of water to each jar?
Why is there so much water in each jar?
Did you shake?(I know with truffles you don't shake, im just asking anyway)
Why is there so much water in the jar?
Have you considered that the problem might be the large amount of water in the jar?
I don't know if your getting this, but we want to know were you read, ADD F&*)(ng water to your jars.
Again, as stated above, if you have that much water in your jars you did not follow the tek.
But that is ok, because this is a learning process. You might be able to steal some of the water and make a LC for another try.
I really don't think this one is gonna make it. You could drain out all the water and see what happens.
Oh and take the damn foil off.
Good luck man.
I added the water to the jars after drying the grains and before PCing them. I shook after the mycelium stopped (dumb idea, but I tried it). I have two more spore prints because I imagined that something would go wrong. Thanks for the help.
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Ghost4 said: hehe, do you know how to grow "lame cubensis" if you can't prep grain? 
No, I don't. However, I don't want to try to grow them because I don't have enough room or time for growing mushrooms.
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IoRhinz



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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: spacechildo]
#18909276 - 09/29/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: I'm gonna throw out a wild guess here and say you first hydrated/soaked your grains, boiled and dried, Then you went ahead and added 150mL or so water to the jars before pc'ing. (The old way)
Hence your double amount of water. 
Is this the reason why it's all wrong? Thanks for actually helping instead of being an ass. I'll know now for next time. So when should I add the water?
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
#18909374 - 09/29/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The grains actually finish hydrating in the pressure cooker. No extra water is needed after the soak/simmer. You just strain them and then load them up and pc
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: Sagescruffy]
#18909980 - 09/30/13 04:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool, looks like you got your answer. Sorry I reread my last post, I did seem like an ass. I would still consider taking a LC off the jar if it is sterile you can just suck up 10CC's of the water with the mycelium swimming and you have something to start fresh with.
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spacechildo
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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: IoRhinz]
#18909996 - 09/30/13 05:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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IoRhinz said:
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spacechildo said: I'm gonna throw out a wild guess here and say you first hydrated/soaked your grains, boiled and dried, Then you went ahead and added 150mL or so water to the jars before pc'ing. (The old way)
Hence your double amount of water. 
Is this the reason why it's all wrong? Thanks for actually helping instead of being an ass. I'll know now for next time. So when should I add the water?
YES, this is why it's all wrong  You added water to the grains twice, combining 2 different methods.
The old way was to measure how much water the grains would hold, add that to the jar of grains and pc. The pc process with the heat and all will then draw the water into the grains. This can give varying results, it's hard to know exactly how much water is needed.
What most people suggest is to prep the grains first, dry off their exterior surface, and then pc. The prepping of the grains usually involves cleaning them first, then soaking them 4-24 hrs (dependig on the tek and the grains), give them a quick boil/simmer, then dry in a colander/strain/mesh screen/towel etc 
I hope that cleared things up a bit, don't be afraid to fail and try again
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IoRhinz



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Re: Psilocybe Tampanensis sclerotia problems [Re: spacechildo]
#18936156 - 10/05/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks everyone for the info! I didn't expect that many people to care about somebody's everyday problems. I guess the community is another reason why the Shroomery's so great!
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