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Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better?
    #18934906 - 10/05/13 06:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone here got a real nice psychedelic trip that has changed their life on everything while sober?

Does tripping make you sensitive to emotions?

Do you get emotions if you're emotionless? Do you get creative? Do your senses of smell and taste better? Do you ever feel like the emotions are a bit TOO intense (but in a good way)?

Has psychedelics ever inspired you or made you motivated to do what you wanted to do in your life (progress to your goals)?


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: NotLiving]
    #18935950 - 10/05/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Anyone here got a real nice psychedelic trip that has changed their life on everything while sober?




Yep, I've had a couple of those. Long time ago I had a bad trip, and it exposed a lot of things to me. I changed a good portion of my current lifestyle. Most others just help me with little aspects of my self/life that I need to work on, or sometimes things I'm doing right :smile:

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Does tripping make you sensitive to emotions?




I've always been very sensitive to emotions, even for other people. Tripping makes those emotions even more intense, which is good and bad. Some good emotions will feel very euphoric, and some bad feelings might send you to hell and back (sometimes, it all depends of course!). But at the end of every trip, I usually feel like I've experience a WIDE RANGE of emotions on the emotion spectrum. Like I've experienced so much emotion every trip.

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Do you get emotions if you're emotionless? Do you get creative? Do your senses of smell and taste better? Do you ever feel like the emotions are a bit TOO intense (but in a good way)?




I don't think I've ever been too emotionless, but sometimes things can get a bit dull if I'm depressed. I usually don't trip if I'm too depressed, but maybe it could help. And yes I do believe everyone gets creative when they are tripping, you get to unlock your unconscious to aid your thinking. So in turn, you have a lot more to come to mind. Sometimes abstract concepts, or thinking in ways that are way different than your "norm". And yes I think emotions can get really intense, sometimes in a good way sometimes in a bad. A lot of people will feel overwhelmed with emotions, and that's definitely me.

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Has psychedelics ever inspired you or made you motivated to do what you wanted to do in your life (progress to your goals)?




Too high to get into this now. But yes, that's one good benefit that psychedelics have to offer. As long as you implement what the mushroom shows you :P


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18936000 - 10/05/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Psychedelics in general have changed my life for the better. The good and bad trips. The good trips have made me motivated by showing me the beauty of creation and the bad ones have exposed my strengths and fears.


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: JacksonMetaller] * 1
    #18936257 - 10/05/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Psychedelics gave me a sense of humility during a time in my life when I had none.

When I was in my early teens, say .. 13, 14, 15, I was a spoiled jerk. I felt like I deserved things, yet I had never actually earned a thing. I felt like my parents were supposed to do everything for me and if something didn't go right it was their fault. I also had a slightly cruel side - I liked being a dick to other people, teasing animals, pissing off my cat, lighting caterpillars on fire. This kind of crap is common in young males. I was just a selfish little douche bag.

My first trip was on my 16th birthday and in the next 2-3 years I had at least 100 trips under my belt. It caused a huge change in me. I started seeing my parents as people, not magic problem solvers. I started to realize that my problems are my own, and I have to do things to solve them. And I became incapable of cruelty. I gained infinite respect for all things living. By the time I got out of high school, I was a changed person and I'm still that person today. These days I feel thankful for any/all good fortune that comes my way and I try to be as generous as possible. I jump at chances to give things away and do things for my friends and family without any compensation. I get more joy from giving than receiving.

You could say that my changes were just normal maturity, but I think psychedelics pointed me in the right direction. The changes I went though were all the result of just trying to be comfortable with my new method of thinking. I think that most people could improve their lives by experiencing psychedelics.


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: Universe]
    #18936278 - 10/05/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I take them and my brain gives me the answers to life's questions I've been struggling with, but I find it quite difficult to follow through with the information I received. Let's say I learned my dream career is nursing. Man, that means saving up money and studying hard and so much other stuff. It's hard work.


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: Universe]
    #18936333 - 10/05/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Psychedelics gave me a sense of humility during a time in my life when I had none.

When I was in my early teens, say .. 13, 14, 15, I was a spoiled jerk. I felt like I deserved things, yet I had never actually earned a thing. I felt like my parents were supposed to do everything for me and if something didn't go right it was their fault. I also had a slightly cruel side - I liked being a dick to other people, teasing animals, pissing off my cat, lighting caterpillars on fire. This kind of crap is common in young males. I was just a selfish little douche bag.

My first trip was on my 16th birthday and in the next 2-3 years I had at least 100 trips under my belt. It caused a huge change in me. I started seeing my parents as people, not magic problem solvers. I started to realize that my problems are my own, and I have to do things to solve them. And I became incapable of cruelty. I gained infinite respect for all things living. By the time I got out of high school, I was a changed person and I'm still that person today. These days I feel thankful for any/all good fortune that comes my way and I try to be as generous as possible. I jump at chances to give things away and do things for my friends and family without any compensation. I get more joy from giving than receiving.

You could say that my changes were just normal maturity, but I think psychedelics pointed me in the right direction. The changes I went though were all the result of just trying to be comfortable with my new method of thinking. I think that most people could improve their lives by experiencing psychedelics.



Exquisite testimony.  I might try to add something to this thread later, if I even can.  But, right now, I just want to read this post a thousand more times.


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18937295 - 10/05/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for all your responses. Someguy: Have you ever went through any mental issues such as depression (clinically) and got out of it stronger than ever? Yeah, I'm curious to see whether or not psychedelics have the potential to do that (help out with mental illnesses).


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Psychedelics in general have changed my life for the better. The good and bad trips. The good trips have made me motivated by showing me the beauty of creation and the bad ones have exposed my strengths and fears.




That's good to hear... Can psychedelics also strengthen your bond with the human world that we live in? For someone who's emotionless and cannot even feel emotions in life, what's your say on it?

Is there any psychedelic that you'd recommend if you were to take it for the first time and alone? I understand that some psychedelics like LSD should be taken around friends and stuff but sometimes, that's just not an option when you're feeling totally empty being around people.

Disassociated, disconnected, depersonalized.


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: NotLiving]
    #18937428 - 10/05/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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NotLiving said:
Thanks for all your responses. Someguy: Have you ever went through any mental issues such as depression (clinically) and got out of it stronger than ever? Yeah, I'm curious to see whether or not psychedelics have the potential to do that (help out with mental illnesses).


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Psychedelics in general have changed my life for the better. The good and bad trips. The good trips have made me motivated by showing me the beauty of creation and the bad ones have exposed my strengths and fears.




That's good to hear... Can psychedelics also strengthen your bond with the human world that we live in? For someone who's emotionless and cannot even feel emotions in life, what's your say on it?

Is there any psychedelic that you'd recommend if you were to take it for the first time and alone? I understand that some psychedelics like LSD should be taken around friends and stuff but sometimes, that's just not an option when you're feeling totally empty being around people.

Disassociated, disconnected, depersonalized.




I didn't feel emotion the way i do now before tripping. I was depressed as it gets. Now i literally can get brought to tears by certain songs and emotional situations. It's a little weird i assume, but far better than the alternative. I can't say if there's a better psychedelic as everyone has their own preferences. For me DMT was a huge help and LSD/mushrooms in group settings with like-minded people is actually extremely therapeutic for a recluse like me. Taking it with someone else will bring you to levels of bonding that are unimagineable (assuming you're with the right people).


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18937455 - 10/05/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Psychedelics showed me the deep down connection between all religions and the reality we live in,

We are spiritual beings,



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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: NotLiving]
    #18937480 - 10/05/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have had a few amazing trips...

But, the older I get, the less I think psychedelics have really changed anything in me for the better or for the worse.

It has been very entertaining, to say the least, looking at life from a different angle over hundreds of trips. 

Spiritual trips while wonderful, prove nothing.

I can see how tripping may help people with addiction or headaches... but that has not ever been my reason to trip.

Do I want to keep tripping? You bet. But the days where I believed tripping would change my life and the world around me seem to have passed.

YMMV.


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: Rose]
    #18937560 - 10/05/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Cervantes said:
I have had a few amazing trips...

But, the older I get, the less I think psychedelics have really changed anything in me for the better or for the worse.

It has been very entertaining, to say the least, looking at life from a different angle over hundreds of trips. 

Spiritual trips while wonderful, prove nothing.

I can see how tripping may help people with addiction or headaches... but that has not ever been my reason to trip.

Do I want to keep tripping? You bet. But the days where I believed tripping would change my life and the world around me seem to have passed.

YMMV.



Hmm, the reason why I'm even interested in doing psychedelics are mainly for their therapeutic effects. I know there's the recreational part to it but that's not my main goal right now. In fact, I can't really enjoy anything so saying that I'm gonna try it recreationally wouldn't even work.

Thanks man. I'll keep the trips down to a minimum, though... Maybe use it as a once in a while thing to keep my head up high when things go low...


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: NotLiving]
    #18937659 - 10/05/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well using it to cure depression can lead to mixed results.

I have had to live with depression for most of my life. Tripping is not a cure for me. It does seem to alleviate my depression for an intermittent time. I can not prove this is the case, it may just seem that way.

If you plan on tripping alone, best to do your research before tripping.

http://www.holybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/Timothy-Leary-The-Psychedelic-Experience-The-Tibetan-Book-Of-The-Dead.pdf
There is a link to a PDF version of The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary. This forum was named after that book.

I consider it required reading for any aspiring tripper. Some may disagree.

The book does however, go to great lengths to explain tripping to someone who has never tripped before, how serious the endeavor is, and how wonderful it can be.

Read every word from the intros on.

It is worth reading (and re-reading, especially if you plan on tripping for the first time, alone). It is the closest thing I have found to tripping with an actual experienced tripper. This book helps you recognize the good and the bad aspects of a trip, and offers you tools to keep things good, even when they start to go bad.

A familiarity with the Zen Buddhist philosophy would not hurt either. Perhaps study up on meditation, Tai Chi or Yoga if this particular philosophy is new to you... as they, like tripping, exercise and effect the mind and the body.

I am not saying this is the ONLY way to trip. Far from it. It is however, a great way to get in a good mindset for your first few trips, as you get your feet wet. Following the advice in this book GREATLY reduces the chances of having a bad trip.

p.s. This book was written in the 1960's. some of the language used was intended to communicate to and gently and humorously fuck with the youth of that generation. Much of the humor is lost on modern audiences. Just realize that the goofy way the author often writes was light hearted and rather humorous at the time. He was a psychologist but many passages of this book are intended to be read aloud during a trip. The author realized the youth of the time were more likely to trip than the older folks, so he spoke to them... besides, the goofy way is much more fun than the clinical way.

p.p.s. Psychedelics have not been proven to cure depression. They can however, allow you to look at the things you have done and currently do in a new light, and this may allow you to explore your depression in new ways.

p.p.s.s. There is a risk of coming off a trip with worse mental health than you had when you started. You mention feeling, "Disassociated, disconnected, depersonalized." well, those are all potential side effects of tripping. It does not mean it WILL happen but it CAN happen. Know the risks involved. Self medication is always risky.

p.p.p.s.s. Anti-depressant drugs can greatly hinder the effects of a trip. You kinda' have to take one or the other and give yourself a few weeks off of the one before taking the other. If you are depressed and currently on medication for it, tripping may not even work.

Trip safe. Trip smart. Study up.

p.p.p.s.s.s. You can practice this mindset with marijuana. It is a shorter duration and less intense. You can however practice for a first trip by following the suggestions of this book while toking. The positive results won't be as profound but neither will the negative results. If things go well with weed, you have a better chance of having a good trip. If they go poorly with weed, take that as your warning and stay away from tripping until you come to a new mindset... or until you have a chance to trip with someone who is very experienced.


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: Rose]
    #18937994 - 10/05/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They always tell me who I really am.


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: mpd]
    #18938091 - 10/05/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That is deep, but if you will pardon me, it is also, from an outside perspective, especially from someone who has never tripped's perspective, almost entirely meaningless.

They show you who you really are?

So does a mirror.

And society may have a different opinion.

Are you who you think you are? Who society thinks you are? What a mirror shows you? What mushrooms "tell" you? Who are you really? How on Earth do you know the talking mushrooms are right?

If mushrooms actually told me things, like, "Hey Cerv, your fly's down." people would think I was insane. And they, not the mushrooms, would likely be correct.


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: Rose]
    #18938122 - 10/05/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Every trim makes my life more beautiful, complicated, meaningful, amazing, and interesting. Everytime my world transforms anew.


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The above is hypothetical, when it is illegal.

Psychedelics are performance enhancers for the philosopher.

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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: themusicofzann]
    #18938850 - 10/06/13 03:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

they FORCE the truth out of you...

example would be like trying to justify an action..or future action based on a thought you have..

like stealing from your job because they treat you bad, or because its not really a big deal..

but on a psychedelic it may show you a true..or moral perspective that you wouldn't normally consider sober...


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18939673 - 10/06/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Psychedelics showed me the deep down connection between all religions and the reality we live in,

We are spiritual beings,






Haha nice picture, Agentchewy.

I personally have had my mind split wide open by psychedelics, and they have allowed me to rekindle the strong connection with our natural universe. Psychedelics, especially psilocybin, unlock the real blissful emotions that I feel most of the time.

Yesterday, for example, I took an eighth of psilocybe cubensis and was dancing around my friend's house gigging hysterically, feeling complete and utter euphoria.

Psychedelic compounds have taught me so much about myself, my family, friends, and the "reality" around us. Mushrooms allowed me to fully come to closure with the death of my parents, and I no longer fear death. I have seen the vibrational energy of the universe that we are all made up of, and I respect and honor it like a "god" or deity.

I feel so grateful for psychedelics and what they have done for me!


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: NotLiving]
    #18939708 - 10/06/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't understand Jimi Hendrix until I took shrooms and then life made more sense.  Also, the army experiments made more sense and my mom and dad made more sense.


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: sunshine]
    #18939754 - 10/06/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I didn't understand Jimi Hendrix until I took shrooms




I started tripping, playing guitar, and getting into Hendrix all around the same time - right when I turned 16. I spent many nights tripping alone with my guitar and my Hendrix albums, trying to figure out how to play like Jimi. Within about a year or two I developed some skill and I was known in local musician circles as the guy who plays just like Hendrix. Of course, I'm no Hendrix, but I can sound just like him and I attribute a huge amount of early improvement on guitar to tripping and Hendrix. Now, 34 years later, I play professionally every weekend and whenever I take a solo there's always some Jimi going on.


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Re: Have any psychedelics changed your life for the better? [Re: Universe]
    #18939781 - 10/06/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I just listened to Jimi.  I was on the substance free floor at college but I had a friend who held my smelly stash for me and my shrooms.  I was coming down off 3.5 g of cubensis and I was taking lots of bong hits and voodoo child played and it made sense.
Of course Jimi didn't really make sense until I tried LSD many years later, but shrooms helped me connect with all the musicians who had tried psychedelics.
Now my dad, who is a musician, got 50 lb. bags of peyote in the 50s and I need to try peyote.


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