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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: Everything]
    #18929915 - 10/04/13 06:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Everything said:
Psilocybin lowers brain activity. Brain scans show brain activity is lowered on the outer sides
Of
The brain and brain activity is more
Condensed to the inner deeper parts.

The inner deeper parts of our brain our the oldest and as we have evolved so did our brains, growing outward.




interesting and amazing that we have that ability when tripping.


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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: Everything]
    #18931000 - 10/04/13 12:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Everything said:
Psilocybin lowers brain activity. Brain scans show brain activity is lowered on the outer sides
Of
The brain and brain activity is more
Condensed to the inner deeper parts.

The inner deeper parts of our brain our the oldest and as we have evolved so did our brains, growing outward.





No.  Those are older preliminary studies, since improved upon.  New work shows enhanced activity in response to tasks like autobiographical recall, across numerous areas, exactly as anybody who trips would expect. :thumbup:

Also most of the evolution you're speaking of took place over 50 million years ago in mammals.  :shrug:

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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18931554 - 10/04/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have not read this new study, can you
Link it for me?

I agree with the last part of that, that evolution of our brains in that way happened a long time ago. However, fifty million years? Where do you get that number?

The oldest human fossils we have discovered date back 3.2 million years

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/10/091001-oldest-human-skeleton-ardi-missing-link-chimps-ardipithecus-ramidus.html

Here is what scientists believed we looked like 55 million years ago :lol:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/science-technology/405492/Fossil-of-oldest-primate-ever-found-rewrites-history-of-humans-in-incredible-discovery

That primate definitely does not have a brain as evolved as we do....not yet at least


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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: Everything]
    #18931996 - 10/04/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Here's a link with research citation.

So what's with "over 50 million years"?  Just that primates are about that old (as you found out) and mammalian evolution long before that included the addition of the neocortex, back around the middle Jurassic. 

That ancestral primate in the link was undoubtedly a well adapted creature of its times, and if you could study its brain anatomy you'd find pretty much complete correspondence with everything we have, albeit in us some of it has been re-purposed and elaborated for our particular survival needs. IMHO of course, as it's unlikely we'll ever have its brain to study - though you can learn quite a lot from endocasts of fossil braincases. :thumbup:

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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: Beown1337]
    #18932122 - 10/04/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Hello, yesterday i had my seventh trip, the last one i had a week ago,
but this one must have been the heaviest trip so far,
even though it was just 5,5 g dried shrooms.
Not much more than the times before.
To keep it short i filter out the important things during this trip.
It started as always, i looked at my wall and knewd it was just about to begin.
I fell down on my carpet ( as always) and had visions of dreams i had in my entire life,
visions of my childhood in school etc..
Than i started to act like an animal,
like a wild animal, an ape!
I made the same noises. It seemed like i have gained access to our primitive ancestors a Gene we still have inside of us, but restrained i guess..
it was a really interesting experience.
After a while it started to get worse, really worse.
I felt like my soul leaving my physical body, i felt so empty,
my whole family seemed unfamiliar, my mom wasnt my mom, my dad wasnt my dad anymore,
i felt completely alone and left out, i thought of myself i will not turn back to reality and end up as a mentally retarded, losing my job, everything, it felt like my ego was ripped apart,
it was worse.
That effect lasted for a an hour i guess and i was just about to accept this faith.
When the effects started to become weaker i realized that i have somehow of a second chance, and everything will be normal again..
I felt like a baby, completely frightened and helpless in need for a woman to catch me up, i wanted to lay in the arms of my mom, sucking the tits as i did as a child, i was whining and felt like i needed the love and security of my mom, i wasnt me, not as i knew me.

Definately the worst, strangest trip i had so far, i never felt like telling someone my trips but this time, i just have to tell you, since it was so odd! Now i take break for a few weeks til i start again to trip, it was enough yesterday, the shrooms seemed to be pretty potent, didnt though i fuck up that bad on dose of 5.5 grams!
But still it was somehow an intense experience.
Also i notice at each tri pthat my whole muscles get floppy, a very nice relaxed state, my facemuscles also and i start to tear at the beginning of every trip, probably all sideeffects of the shrooms.






This has happened to me on mushies. Really freaked me the fuck out. I felt like I was an alien and I had no connection with anyone. Took me a while to put the pieces back together.

The ape thing made me go ooooh ahhhhh ooooooo ooooo ahhh. This happened to me on Ketamine and Jane mixed. I thought I turned into a primate.

So you are telling me that what BEOWN went through is a somewhat normal occurrence when going down the rabbit hole?


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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: tarponio]
    #18932218 - 10/04/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Op should watch altered states.


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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18933670 - 10/04/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That's a good description of a typical trip. :thumbup:

With enough times there you'll start to enjoy this kind of thing, and it becomes fun. :Awemush:

:peace:PS



And then it becomes real.  You'll start to see the possibility of going beyond (merely) enjoying it to just being it.  Where enjoying is being and being is enjoying.  No difference.  And then beyond that.  Just keep going, gotta push.  You'll be able to get comfortable with whatever comes.  No judgments.  Heaven to hell.  It's cool ... it'll work for you.  Orgasm to horror show.  Indifference.  'Cause it's the same thing.  Same trip over and over?  Possibly ... you don't need the substances.  So I'm told.

For now, maybe don't worry too much about your soul?  It needs you more than you need it.  By a mile.  Say good riddance to bad concepts when it's time.  When you're comfortable.  Nooooo rush.  Just don't worry.  If you do manage to lose it?  Be in touch.  I'll want to hear.  (And maybe dance, maybe not, we'll see.)  Just be sure to tell me how to manage it, too.  Hardest thing for us.  By a mile.

And yeah, of course you felt completely alone.  Of course.  It's why we're all in this here and not in some completely awesome other here.  Totally!  We can get that right out of the way.  But, look, it's what we've got -- isn't it?  Seems so.  Make it work.  Just play this one out ... here ... now ... and *then* go beyond.  Gotta set yourself up to be in that completely awesome other here as soon as the opportunity presents.  Just as soon!

Takes work.  Maybe you could start with your family.  It seems important to you.  Work with that.  You don't need them.  They need you.  And you need that.  To evolve.  If you can be here ... now ... for them, and for me, and for all of us, then you're really flying!  High!  And you're practically guaranteed a totally righteous assignment in a completely awesome other here next go around.  "Practically guaranteed"?  Nah ... you're in, bro.  A shoe in.  That is, if you can also open up ... keep opening up.  Good stuff.  And also clean up ... keep cleaning up.  Until you're running such a clean game that it's running itself.  And then you realize that there's no longer a game to run.  It just evaporates, and you're here.  Back here.  Still here.  Only different ... much different.  Possibly the only reason left to engage in this exercise at all?  So, be here ... now.  For your family?  And go there ... then.  For us?

We'll all be there.  Waiting for each other.  Just the way it has to be.  No other way this can play out ... I don't think?  No.  No one's getting out of here dead.  Not so fast.  Not so easy.  If only!  Scared of losing yourself?  Please ... half of us (our better half!) should be so lucky ... LOL!  You'll see that.  You're on target for sure.  Be the perfect archer.  Or whomever!  And just when we all stop caring about bad trips, there won't be any such thing ... LMAO!


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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: Gratuitous Grace]
    #18934111 - 10/05/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: Everything]
    #18934172 - 10/05/13 12:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

FYI dude, 5g of shrooms is a lot.  I usually consume about 2.5 and I'm borderline out of it.  The strongest I've had was unknown because it was in a random chocolate but never tripped that hard off shrooms since.

For me, the worst was being in a K-hole.  Nothing like that has happened before.  I literally thought I was chewing my own face off.  Then I threw up for a long ass time.


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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: refried]
    #18934411 - 10/05/13 02:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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FYI dude, 5g of shrooms is a lot.  I usually consume about 2.5 and I'm borderline out of it.  The strongest I've had was unknown because it was in a random chocolate but never tripped that hard off shrooms since.

For me, the worst was being in a K-hole.  Nothing like that has happened before.  I literally thought I was chewing my own face off.  Then I threw up for a long ass time.




K-hole damnit, after reading on wikipedia it must have been a very unpleasant trip..


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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: Gratuitous Grace]
    #18934452 - 10/05/13 02:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)





And then it becomes real.  You'll start to see the possibility of going beyond (merely) enjoying it to just being it.  Where enjoying is being and being is enjoying.  No difference.  And then beyond that.  Just keep going, gotta push.  You'll be able to get comfortable with whatever comes.  No judgments.  Heaven to hell.  It's cool ... it'll work for you.  Orgasm to horror show.  Indifference.  'Cause it's the same thing.  Same trip over and over?  Possibly ... you don't need the substances.  So I'm told.

For now, maybe don't worry too much about your soul?  It needs you more than you need it.  By a mile.  Say good riddance to bad concepts when it's time.  When you're comfortable.  Nooooo rush.  Just don't worry.  If you do manage to lose it?  Be in touch.  I'll want to hear.  (And maybe dance, maybe not, we'll see.)  Just be sure to tell me how to manage it, too.  Hardest thing for us.  By a mile.

And yeah, of course you felt completely alone.  Of course.  It's why we're all in this here and not in some completely awesome other here.  Totally!  We can get that right out of the way.  But, look, it's what we've got -- isn't it?  Seems so.  Make it work.  Just play this one out ... here ... now ... and *then* go beyond.  Gotta set yourself up to be in that completely awesome other here as soon as the opportunity presents.  Just as soon!

Takes work.  Maybe you could start with your family.  It seems important to you.  Work with that.  You don't need them.  They need you.  And you need that.  To evolve.  If you can be here ... now ... for them, and for me, and for all of us, then you're really flying!  High!  And you're practically guaranteed a totally righteous assignment in a completely awesome other here next go around.  "Practically guaranteed"?  Nah ... you're in, bro.  A shoe in.  That is, if you can also open up ... keep opening up.  Good stuff.  And also clean up ... keep cleaning up.  Until you're running such a clean game that it's running itself.  And then you realize that there's no longer a game to run.  It just evaporates, and you're here.  Back here.  Still here.  Only different ... much different.  Possibly the only reason left to engage in this exercise at all?  So, be here ... now.  For your family?  And go there ... then.  For us?

We'll all be there.  Waiting for each other.  Just the way it has to be.  No other way this can play out ... I don't think?  No.  No one's getting out of here dead.  Not so fast.  Not so easy.  If only!  Scared of losing yourself?  Please ... half of us (our better half!) should be so lucky ... LOL!  You'll see that.  You're on target for sure.  Be the perfect archer.  Or whomever!  And just when we all stop caring about bad trips, there won't be any such thing ... LMAO!






I just had to use that facial expression, since i looked the same.
Yes, and im glad that we all share the same hobby.
We are all a part of it.


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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: Gratuitous Grace]
    #18935601 - 10/05/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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And then it becomes real.  You'll start to see the possibility of going beyond (merely) enjoying it to just being it.  Where enjoying is being and being is enjoying.  No difference.  And then beyond that.  Just keep going, gotta push.  You'll be able to get comfortable with whatever comes.  No judgments.  Heaven to hell.  It's cool ... it'll work for you.  Orgasm to horror show.  Indifference.  'Cause it's the same thing.  Same trip over and over?  Possibly ... you don't need the substances.  So I'm told.

For now, maybe don't worry too much about your soul?  It needs you more than you need it.  By a mile.  Say good riddance to bad concepts when it's time.  When you're comfortable.  Nooooo rush.  Just don't worry.  If you do manage to lose it?  Be in touch.  I'll want to hear.  (And maybe dance, maybe not, we'll see.)  Just be sure to tell me how to manage it, too.  Hardest thing for us.  By a mile.

And yeah, of course you felt completely alone.  Of course.  It's why we're all in this here and not in some completely awesome other here.  Totally!  We can get that right out of the way.  But, look, it's what we've got -- isn't it?  Seems so.  Make it work.  Just play this one out ... here ... now ... and *then* go beyond.  Gotta set yourself up to be in that completely awesome other here as soon as the opportunity presents.  Just as soon!

Takes work.  Maybe you could start with your family.  It seems important to you.  Work with that.  You don't need them.  They need you.  And you need that.  To evolve.  If you can be here ... now ... for them, and for me, and for all of us, then you're really flying!  High!  And you're practically guaranteed a totally righteous assignment in a completely awesome other here next go around.  "Practically guaranteed"?  Nah ... you're in, bro.  A shoe in.  That is, if you can also open up ... keep opening up.  Good stuff.  And also clean up ... keep cleaning up.  Until you're running such a clean game that it's running itself.  And then you realize that there's no longer a game to run.  It just evaporates, and you're here.  Back here.  Still here.  Only different ... much different.  Possibly the only reason left to engage in this exercise at all?  So, be here ... now.  For your family?  And go there ... then.  For us?

We'll all be there.  Waiting for each other.  Just the way it has to be.  No other way this can play out ... I don't think?  No.  No one's getting out of here dead.  Not so fast.  Not so easy.  If only!  Scared of losing yourself?  Please ... half of us (our better half!) should be so lucky ... LOL!  You'll see that.  You're on target for sure.  Be the perfect archer.  Or whomever!  And just when we all stop caring about bad trips, there won't be any such thing ... LMAO!




Beautiful. Now time to drop some acid :smile:


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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18935628 - 10/05/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

ill wait for another week, than its time for to start again..


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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: Beown1337]
    #18935724 - 10/05/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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ill wait for another week, than its time for to start again..




My setting wasn't right for a hit of strong LSD, so I'm trying out the LSA (HBWR) again.


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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: Beown1337]
    #18935887 - 10/05/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Beown1337 said:
Hello, yesterday i had my seventh trip, the last one i had a week ago,
but this one must have been the heaviest trip so far,
even though it was just 5,5 g dried shrooms.
Not much more than the times before.
To keep it short i filter out the important things during this trip.
It started as always, i looked at my wall and knewd it was just about to begin.
I fell down on my carpet ( as always) and had visions of dreams i had in my entire life,
visions of my childhood in school etc..
Than i started to act like an animal,
like a wild animal, an ape!
I made the same noises. It seemed like i have gained access to our primitive ancestors a Gene we still have inside of us, but restrained i guess..
it was a really interesting experience.
After a while it started to get worse, really worse.
I felt like my soul leaving my physical body, i felt so empty,
my whole family seemed unfamiliar, my mom wasnt my mom, my dad wasnt my dad anymore,
i felt completely alone and left out, i thought of myself i will not turn back to reality and end up as a mentally retarded, losing my job, everything, it felt like my ego was ripped apart,
it was worse.
That effect lasted for a an hour i guess and i was just about to accept this faith.
When the effects started to become weaker i realized that i have somehow of a second chance, and everything will be normal again..
I felt like a baby, completely frightened and helpless in need for a woman to catch me up, i wanted to lay in the arms of my mom, sucking the tits as i did as a child, i was whining and felt like i needed the love and security of my mom, i wasnt me, not as i knew me.

Definately the worst, strangest trip i had so far, i never felt like telling someone my trips but this time, i just have to tell you, since it was so odd! Now i take break for a few weeks til i start again to trip, it was enough yesterday, the shrooms seemed to be pretty potent, didnt though i fuck up that bad on dose of 5.5 grams!
But still it was somehow an intense experience.
Also i notice at each tri pthat my whole muscles get floppy, a very nice relaxed state, my facemuscles also and i start to tear at the beginning of every trip, probably all sideeffects of the shrooms.



Yea sounds about right for a 5.5g trip.... You think that was a bad experience trust me ive been their with like 3x that dose... dont underestimate the power of psilocybin... ive found i rarely ever eat over a eighth anymore. i like the level 2-3 trip im cool with that. good vibes and be safe :mushroom2:


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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: MescalitoMagnality]
    #18938877 - 10/06/13 04:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yea i thought, "ah comeon you always done 4-5 grams, so why not slowly raise the dosage"..i guess i probably stuck with not more than 6 grams in the future..;>

I want to talk one more time about the ape thing and the sounds i made.
I tried to do the same noises as an ape when i was sober, it didnt sound nearly as real as it did on a trip..
Next time when i feel like an ape on a trip, ill try to record it..haha.


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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: Beown1337]
    #18942305 - 10/06/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

please dont lol


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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: Deathcore]
    #18947200 - 10/07/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Welcome to the Ego-death club. The Divine Mother embraces you in her loving arms.


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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #18948644 - 10/08/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Welcome to the Ego-death club. The Divine Mother embraces you in her loving arms.




Ego death? So its tipical like i wrote about love and caring of my mom etc..
Alright, i wasnt really sure but than i for sure had a totally ego loss


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Re: A trip from strange to worse.. [Re: Beown1337]
    #18952758 - 10/09/13 03:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No it's really weird and obscure to love and care about your mother :lol:

I believe it's Freud that discussed the nipple thing (oral fixation). That's supposedly partially why people enjoy smoking cigs or drinking from straws or sucking on things.


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