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Do dreams mean anything?
#18935688 - 10/05/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I haven't had many dreams that make sense or even stick out to me
But for the past month I have had recursive dreams about big cats. Ie. Pumas the size of houses taking over my city. Me fighting that puma. Also, me talking to a purple panther. The purple panther said he was a physical manifestation of the hindu God. Lots of panthers, pumas, lion, leopards. Surprisingly, no tigers. And orangatun here and there. But every morning I wakeup having some memory of a big cat occuring somewhere in my dream. I have a dream journal now, and the same theme keeps on repeating itself
Anyways, do you guys think dreams have any significance whatsoever? Any crazy stories about dreams?
Any idea what the fuck big cats are doing hiding in my subconcious?
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Re: Do dreams mean anything? [Re: topdog82]
#18935712 - 10/05/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah I wonder the same thing. My dreams usually consist of things from going tarzan in a jungle with Miley Cyrus to nuclear explosions in Hawaii. Still trying to make sense of them.
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Re: Do dreams mean anything? [Re: Space]
#18935889 - 10/05/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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YES of course dreams are most important!
Ask yourself what ery little detail means.
Look things up, and see if you can relate.
Just guessing, there is a woman in your life who is controlling.
Wow, indigo/purple is a sacred color! So, what did God say?
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Re: Do dreams mean anything? [Re: topdog82] 1
#18935895 - 10/05/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Do dreams mean anything? [Re: extreme]
#18937841 - 10/05/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I feel as though dreams are a window to my subconscious.
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Re: Do dreams mean anything? [Re: topdog82]
#18938340 - 10/05/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have done Jungian-oriented dream interpretation, after many years of my own analysis and trainings, and I have lectured on it, so I have to tell you that a subject has to be known - I'd have to know you and your life situation in some detail before venturing a possible meaning to this or any dream. It would require several sessions or several pages of your autobiography. Dream manuals are bogus because all symbols have multiple meanings. Ultimately, the analyst can only 'amplify' as many meanings as [s]he knows, and the dreamer is the final arbiter of meaning.
There is a great book by Robert Johnson called Inner Work, that can teach you Active Imagination. This is nothing like what is usually called imagination, this is a powerful, even 'magickal' method in which you evoke your dream character and hold a conversation with it. At first you think that you're just playing two sides of a conversation, but the evocation of the dream character opens a door to your unconscious, and the answers to your query from your dream character will astound you! Contact is made with your unconscious and it it a wholly other personality (or a host of sub-personalities or "complexes" that you are interacting with). http://www.amazon.com/Inner-Work-Dreams-Imagination-Personal/dp/0062504312/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1381035131&sr=1-1&keywords=robert+johnson%2C+active+imagination It is recommended that you keep a journal of these interactions. I did. I had a huge snake that simply called itself "Python." I drew it in one of my early journals too. It's remarkable what you can learn about yourself (the dream symbols ARE parts of you. Even images of other people symbolize parts of you).
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MarkostheGnostic said: I have done Jungian-oriented dream interpretation, after many years of my own analysis and trainings, and I have lectured on it, so I have to tell you that a subject has to be known - I'd have to know you and your life situation in some detail before venturing a possible meaning to this or any dream. It would require several sessions or several pages of your autobiography. Dream manuals are bogus because all symbols have multiple meanings. Ultimately, the analyst can only 'amplify' as many meanings as [s]he knows, and the dreamer is the final arbiter of meaning.
There is a great book by Robert Johnson called Inner Work, that can teach you Active Imagination. This is nothing like what is usually called imagination, this is a powerful, even 'magickal' method in which you evoke your dream character and hold a conversation with it. At first you think that you're just playing two sides of a conversation, but the evocation of the dream character opens a door to your unconscious, and the answers to your query from your dream character will astound you! Contact is made with your unconscious and it it a wholly other personality (or a host of sub-personalities or "complexes" that you are interacting with). http://www.amazon.com/Inner-Work-Dreams-Imagination-Personal/dp/0062504312/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1381035131&sr=1-1&keywords=robert+johnson%2C+active+imagination It is recommended that you keep a journal of these interactions. I did. I had a huge snake that simply called itself "Python." I drew it in one of my early journals too. It's remarkable what you can learn about yourself (the dream symbols ARE parts of you. Even images of other people symbolize parts of you).
Is that kind of like asking to speak to your higher self in a dream?
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Re: Do dreams mean anything? [Re: teknix]
#18938495 - 10/05/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is that kind of like asking to speak to your higher self in a dream?
Not necessarily. From a Jungian perspective, the entire psyche, conceptualized as a sphere, and the centerpoint of that sphere, comprise the Higher Self. It may speak to you through a sort of emissary, an archetypal image, like Beatrice guiding Dante, as his Anima, in The Divine Comedy. Of course, you could dream of a svior in any number of guises, some of which might be upsetting if one is one-sidedly attached to one particular character in waking life. For example, a rabid fundamentalist Christian might dream of Buddha or Krishna, or some Aborigine shaman for that matter, who imparts to the dream-ego a truth that is being neglected, rejected, or downright denied in waking life. Upon awakening, that fundy will rationalize the dream as an incursion from the Devil because anything that is rejected from one's conscious attitude becomes the Shadow - our own personalized Devil made from whatever we consciously reject. Then he might quote the Bible about devils appearing as "angels of light" to further justify his denial of truths that he has been unable to integrate into his tiny world-view. Such dream images inform us of aspects of the psyche that we need to integrate in order to increase our wholeness. The book I cited gives a pretty good rundown of the major players in our psyche. People really are a chimera of complexes, not a single abiding Self. THE Self is not personal, individual, but Universal.
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Read the "Interpretation of Dreams" by Freud
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Re: Do dreams mean anything? [Re: T-Rex]
#18939390 - 10/06/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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T-Rex said: Read the "Interpretation of Dreams" by Freud
I read it in 1974 I believe, and used part of it for my doctoral dissertation in 1983. Last night I was reading a book about Freud's collecting habit - statues and masks, primarily Egyptian motifs. Jung, whose work I embraced and received a lot of analysis and training in, is more inclusive than Freud's sexual theory (which Freud insisted be made a "dogma"). Freud was terrified of occultism, Jung explored it boldly. Freud is representative of a 1st-2nd chakra psychology (anal-genital complex), whereas I see Jung as speaking to the 4th chakra psychology, which is the first transcendental stage beyond the 3rd chakra psychology of Alfred Adler and Freud. I originally got these ideas from Ram Dass, and parlayed them into a complete theory for my doctoral dissertation. There is a definite place for several theorists on the chakra ladder, which is a metatheory - a theory of theories.
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Do you by any chance have your dissertation posted on the internet. I'd be enamored to thoroughly read your dissertation
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Re: Do dreams mean anything? [Re: topdog82]
#18939438 - 10/06/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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doze sounds like big pussy
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Re: Do dreams mean anything? [Re: T-Rex]
#18939526 - 10/06/13 10:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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MarkostheGnostic said: I have done Jungian-oriented dream interpretation, after many years of my own analysis and trainings, and I have lectured on it, so I have to tell you that a subject has to be known - I'd have to know you and your life situation in some detail before venturing a possible meaning to this or any dream. It would require several sessions or several pages of your autobiography. Dream manuals are bogus because all symbols have multiple meanings. Ultimately, the analyst can only 'amplify' as many meanings as [s]he knows, and the dreamer is the final arbiter of meaning.
There is a great book by Robert Johnson called Inner Work, that can teach you Active Imagination. This is nothing like what is usually called imagination, this is a powerful, even 'magickal' method in which you evoke your dream character and hold a conversation with it. At first you think that you're just playing two sides of a conversation, but the evocation of the dream character opens a door to your unconscious, and the answers to your query from your dream character will astound you! Contact is made with your unconscious and it it a wholly other personality (or a host of sub-personalities or "complexes" that you are interacting with). http://www.amazon.com/Inner-Work-Dreams-Imagination-Personal/dp/0062504312/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1381035131&sr=1-1&keywords=robert+johnson%2C+active+imagination It is recommended that you keep a journal of these interactions. I did. I had a huge snake that simply called itself "Python." I drew it in one of my early journals too. It's remarkable what you can learn about yourself (the dream symbols ARE parts of you. Even images of other people symbolize parts of you).
Wow thanks! 
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T-Rex said: Do you by any chance have your dissertation posted on the internet. I'd be enamored to thoroughly read your dissertation
Yeah, if you could post up on this thread that would be greatly appreaciated
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Re: Do dreams mean anything? [Re: T-Rex]
#18939703 - 10/06/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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T-Rex said: Do you by any chance have your dissertation posted on the internet. I'd be enamored to thoroughly read your dissertation
Thanks, but I can't even find it on Microfilms International, Inc. It's 222 pages double-spaced and would have been longer but I hired a terrible typist who went to 1/4 inch from the bottom of some pages, misspelled all over. I'm lucky the committee passed me, and I'm certain that none of them read the whole thing. I gave it a 6 word title but they made me lengthen it to a dissertation-sounding monstrosity: A Phenomenological Adaptation of the Tibetan Buddhist Doctrine of Psychic Centers to a Metatheoretical Hierarchy of Human Motivation.
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T-Rex said: Do you by any chance have your dissertation posted on the internet. I'd be enamored to thoroughly read your dissertation
Thanks, but I can't even find it on Microfilms International, Inc. It's 222 pages double-spaced and would have been longer but I hired a terrible typist who went to 1/4 inch from the bottom of some pages, misspelled all over. I'm lucky the committee passed me, and I'm certain that none of them read the whole thing. I gave it a 6 word title but they made me lengthen it to a dissertation-sounding monstrosity: A Phenomenological Adaptation of the Tibetan Buddhist Doctrine of Psychic Centers to a Metatheoretical Hierarchy of Human Motivation.
hahahah thanks anyways. I will be sure to check out that book
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