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InvisibleSamuel L Jackson
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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: Konyap]
    #18933293 - 10/04/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You do realize that diet coke has no/very few calories because all of/the majority of the sugar in it can't be metabolized, right?

Think of stuff like 2-FA for a moment. It's like amphetamine in a lot of ways... but something about its molecular structure is slightly different.

Surprise surprise, you can do the same thing with sugars. And you can do it in such a way that renders them unable to be broken down.

Here enters the land of soda with zero calories despite tasting pretty fucking sugary.

But wait, there's more. Tell me, why is drinking diet soda a bad thing? Why is diet soda, containing no sugar which can be metabolized, capable of causing type 2 diabetes in people?

I know what it is. Do you?


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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #18933298 - 10/04/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I said they drink tons and something doesn't click in their brain to stop eating

I drink soda all the freaking time but when I was younger I'd get the flu/pukes once a year while my friends didnt' probably was all that fucking soda I was drinking


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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: Konyap]
    #18933310 - 10/04/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

oh look
http://healthyliving.msn.com/health-wellness/7-side-effects-of-drinking-diet-soda

the brown syrupy fake sugar water is bad

probably because it's fake suger your body doesn't know what to do with it and stores it in your legs


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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: Konyap]
    #18933320 - 10/04/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That website said nothing about the modified sugars being stored in your legs.

It does something else.

Keep googling for the answer, you'll find it eventually.


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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #18933338 - 10/04/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #18933342 - 10/04/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I dont even think most people understand the mechanism your body uses to metabolize sugar, let alone the synthetic sweet shit in diet soda.


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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: Konyap]
    #18933345 - 10/04/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It isn't worth reading "your book" if so far you have lacked the capacity to say something which even suggests you know what the fuck you're talking about to me.

Did you read "your book"?

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
I dont even think most people understand the mechanism your body uses to metabolize sugar




And that's why I find shit like this thread so amusing. A bunch of people who don't understand the mechanisms behind the process talking about it like they do.

These modified sugars aren't utilized by the body, and it's easy to know why and confirm via enzymatic activity tests. They can cause obesity/diabetes, but the mechanism has nothing to do with, "getting stored in your legs".

Meanwhile... they're crying about fructose/glucose which are metabolized but are totally different molecules and cause obesity/diabetes through a rather different mechanism.


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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #18933367 - 10/04/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Samuel L Jackson said:
It isn't worth reading "your book" if so far you have lacked the capacity to say something which even suggests you know what the fuck you're talking about to me.

Did you read "your book"?





Don't have to, i've been on topic and brought up points, somewhere between all of that you came and went.


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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #18933951 - 10/04/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: Konyap]
    #18933977 - 10/04/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Illyabo said:
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Samuel L Jackson said:
Great, now cut out the number of people with type 1 diabetes and those who did not develop type 2 diabetes as a result of their lifestyle. Then I want to hear something about how integral consumption of sugar was to the development of diabetes in that fraction of people and how that relates to everyone who doesn't have diabetes which should lead me to believe that sugar is, in fact, the devil.




That was the first thing I explained, I never said sugar was the devil either, I said fat tards are fat tards, they don't go around drinking a liter of water with their box of donuts





I drink over a liter of water with my boxes of donuts :shrug:,
no soda for me  !


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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: Konyap]
    #18934977 - 10/05/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Illyabo said:
five countries with the most diabetes sufferers in 2003 were: India (35.5 million, China 23.8 million, USA 16 million, Russia 9.7 million and Japan 6.7 million.

16 million thats 1 out of 30 people

It is estimated that diabetes accounts for 5% to 10% of most nations' health budgets.

-- If more money were spent on early detection of diabetes and diabetes prevention the economic savings would be massive.





oh goodness, that's so tragic... now why arent you listing a percapita
diabetes rate that coincides with the countries that consume the most
sugar per capita

http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-sugar-consumer-countries.html

some studies say that it's linked to the consumption of high fructose corn syrup

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/news/articles/2012/11/27/diabetes-rates-higher-in-countries-using-lots-of-high-fructose-corn-syrup-study

but then the numbers again dont match with yours

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/11/121127111337.htm

http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/global-observer/mexico-diabetes-rates-contend-for-worlds-worst/568


and the real diabetes rate shows no link to sugar at all
http://www.allcountries.org/ranks/diabetes_prevalence_country_ranks.html


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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #18934982 - 10/05/13 07:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

BAM! ^^^^^

/end thread

OP.. you should worry a lot more about high fructose corn syrup and aspartame.


I eat a FUCK TON of cane sugar in my diet. For quite a long time. I'm in pretty much the best shape of my life.
No signs of diabetes.

I also eat a pretty healthy diet otherwise, besides all the sugar.


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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: Shroomism]
    #18934995 - 10/05/13 07:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
BAM! ^^^^^

/end thread

OP.. you should worry a lot more about high fructose corn syrup and aspartame



Natural sugar formed in, say, fruit really isn't so bad, but I think he's talking about the processed, granulated shit that you'll find by the ounce in many deserts.

Honestly, sugar in the form of processed foods is one of the worst drugs known to man. It can be more addictive than crack, and it can be harder to quit as well.


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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: Synthe]
    #18935002 - 10/05/13 07:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I say it's one of the best drugs known to man :yesnod:

High fructose corn syrup is the real enemy here, and is in more things than ever before.
They put that shit in EVERYTHING in processed food.


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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #18935019 - 10/05/13 07:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The government can't even regulate that circle jerk of a congress that they have going on in Washington. What the fuck makes you think yet have time to regulate people from killing themselves with sugar?

Your ability to intake sugar depends on your activity level. The real culprit in this epidemic of health decay in America is people's lack of activity in their daily lives. Sugar is a gigantic spike to your insulin, sparking a reaction in your body to store calories as fats. If you're active, this isn't much of a problem because you'll burn the majority of the calories before it takes effect. But when you're like most Americans who sit on their ass and play video games or watch te idiot box all night after work, you're fucked.


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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: ilike_trees]
    #18935043 - 10/05/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

HFCS is much more addictive.


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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: TwinEclipse]
    #18935317 - 10/05/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

to clarify, by sugar i meant any added sugar, not sugar naturally present in food, cause you cant really avoid that

so that includes
-all sugar (white, brown, honey, maple syrup, agave syrup) (although i think honey and maple syrup may contain some goodies though)

-hfcs

pretty much anything that breaks down in to glucose and fructose


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How much is too much?

The American Heart Association has made the following recommendations about sugar limits:

Children = Limit to 3-4 teaspoons per day

Adult women/teens= Limit to 5 teaspoons per day

Adult men/teens= Limit to 8-9 teaspoons per day




about 4 grams of sugar per teaspoon for the white stuff

36 grams on the high end



now lets make a sample day  using canadas food guide recommended serving sizes and food pyramid


Quote:

breakfast  - 16 grams total


-1% milk 250 ml  - 13 grams

-piece of wonderbread - 2 grams per slice

-with penutbutter    - 1 gram per tablespoon

--piece of fruit  - not counting fruit

-coffee or tea  - assuming un sweetened


lunch - 6 grams

(-sandwich on whole wheat bread  )

-wonder whole wheat - 3 grams per 2 slices

-yogurt -3 grams for greek no fat

-green salad  - not counting

fresh fruit - not counting


dinner - 13 grams

-broiled fish

-baked potato

-vegetables

-milk -  13 grams

- melon




total is 35 grams, which is surprisingly within the heart foundations recommended limit

note serving sizes here are somewhat smaller then i assume most people use

also add a glass of orange juice to breakfast, thats an extra 22 grams of sugar

most of the above, except for bread and penutbutter are un processed, switch your dinner or lunch with a processed form, and your sugar level leaves the ball park range




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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: hidenseek1]
    #18935435 - 10/05/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Glucose is the only food our body utilizes. Excess sugar may be bad, but sugar isn't evil. Also, not enough attention is paid to starch, which is really just polymerized sugar and has essentially the same effect.


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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: koods]
    #18935476 - 10/05/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Glucose is the only food our body utilizes.


im only trying to demonize added sugar, or even the high amount of sugar found in fruitjuices, which has none of the fibre found in whole fruits

Quote:

Also, not enough attention is paid to starch




starch is carbs right? carbs are bad too, but for now im still trying to work on the sugar reduction, if i get it down, ill probably switch my attention to carbs




legumes should be lacto-fermented , even vegetables can be lacto fermented too , makes it a whole lot easier on your body to absorb

but you gotta be careful how much of the lacto fermented shit your eating, because of the ridiculously high salt content


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Re: *EPIDEMIC* DEADLY WHITE SUBSTANCE ALL TIME HIGH [Re: hidenseek1]
    #18935589 - 10/05/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I had a dream I was at school and they were selling snacks and only had a credit card.

Then I had a dollar to give the lady but I had to give up my own candy.

I got a bag of these nerds boxes and a bag of dots.

They told me I have to share it with my class.

I didn't. We were in the gymnasium and it's rude to eat in there :<


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