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Offlinesidewayz6.6
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Soo, now that Silk Road has been hit...
    #18934775 - 10/05/13 05:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

How worried should someone be if they had made some purchases?  Especially if one of the purchases was in escrow when the site was seized.  Also of note is that the order was to be coming from the same area that the seizure warrant for the site came from.  As long as one was using the PGP key for sensitive information like their name/address they should be in the clear right?


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Re: Soo, now that Silk Road has been hit... [Re: sidewayz6.6]
    #18934804 - 10/05/13 05:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You'll probably be fine. They don't have the resources to prosecute all the buyers. They'll probably focus on the vendors, and extremely large quantity buyers.


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Re: Soo, now that Silk Road has been hit... [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #18953489 - 10/09/13 09:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

well if it wasnt obvious before it is now.... :lol:


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Re: Soo, now that Silk Road has been hit... [Re: sidewayz6.6]
    #18962039 - 10/10/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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sidewayz6.6 said:
As long as one was using the PGP key for sensitive information like their name/address they should be in the clear right?




That you used PGP for sensitive information is good, but your security in that regard will also be dependent on the individual vendors you were working with. My favorite vendor had multiple locations that they shipped from, so even though I transmitted my address to them PGP encoded, I cannot be sure that my address was never transmitted to their alternative shipper unencoded. Hopefully it never was, but given the number of vendors that found PGP to be a bother, I am not exceptionally confident that they didn't transmit my address to their other shipper unencoded. I just hope if it was ever transmitted as plain text they did so by some means outside of SR.

Like most other people are saying, if you were ordering personal use quantities of whatever substance, I wouldn't be terribly concerned. I suspect this bust will play out much like TFM's bust did where they go after the site admin(s) and whatever vendors they can take down and a few small time buyers may go down as necessary to secure cases against whatever vendors they can track down. Otherwise most cautious personal-use quantity buyers will never hear anything, the less cautious personal-use quantity buyers will probably get letters warning them that importing controlled substances is illegal, and larger quantity buyers will probably be referred to local law enforcement for further case building, which may result in anything to nothing.

I never ordered anything that would be construed by a reasonable person to be anything other than personal use quantities, ALWAYS used PGP to transmit my address, and am no longer living at the addresses used to receive most of the packages. I do still have the PO Box my last package came to, but its not linked to my current residence, so the cops would have a bit of work to do to find me and it would span across multiple police jurisdictions so I'm not terribly concerned. Hell, I wish I knew how to get in touch with my favorite vendor. If I did I'd continue on like nothing happened to be honest.

However unlike some people, I do not feel like drugs in the mail is the "future" of winning the drug war. USPS is continually dealing with ever decreasing volumes of mail which will make screening mail for contraband all the more easy. Once the police realize that more TOR and other anonymous marketplaces are popping up faster than they can knock them down, they will likely find a way to step up interdiction of drug parcels. They'll never get them all, but at what point would YOU stop receiving drug packages? Anything less than 95+% success rate and I'm out.

I learned (I think), the hard way, drug dogs are not necessarily as good as one might think. Recently while standing in line to get into a festival I had a drug dog within a foot of me while I had a joint of some Cali grown Girl Scout Cookies and two caps of MDA in cigarette packs in my pocket and the dog did not alert on me despite being in very close proximity to me and the drugs. Now, I don't think these were law enforcement dogs, and hell, they might have even just been there for show more than to actually find drugs, but the whole situation made me question multiple things, but primarily I questioned exactly how good their noses really are. All that said, canines are only the beginning of possible interdiction strategies. Anyone who thinks SR was a major victory in the drug war is sadly mistaken I am afraid.


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Re: Soo, now that Silk Road has been hit... [Re: sidewayz6.6]
    #18974149 - 10/13/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Now the franchise is a free-for all! I set up a cardboard box stand on a downtown corner, wrote "The first Silk Road outpost" in letters on a sign that hangs above, and I do all my dealin and whealin out of a safe beneath the cardboard counter. Merchandise is exchanged by hand for cash, and comes in anonymous, sealed envelopes, with fake names on it, which can be selected by the customer for a small fee. I wear gloves at all times, and a mask so people don't know what I look like.


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Re: Soo, now that Silk Road has been hit... [Re: something cool]
    #18978432 - 10/14/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like a really bad version of a Peanuts cartoon.


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Re: Soo, now that Silk Road has been hit... [Re: vertygo]
    #18979622 - 10/15/13 12:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

vertygo said:
Sounds like a really bad awesome version of a Peanuts cartoon.




Fixed.


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Re: Soo, now that Silk Road has been hit... [Re: c1dh3d]
    #18979678 - 10/15/13 01:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The doctor is in

Nickelbags haven't been around for years though


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Re: Soo, now that Silk Road has been hit... [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18999777 - 10/19/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There is little to nothing to worry about if you are a buyer even if you bought large amounts. Evidence of ordering goes stale very fast and they, imo, will not be able to get a search warrant on stale evidence particularly where there is nothing besides a name and address to indicate you ordered it. Vendors do not have to worry either because their personal info was not on the system. Unless le ordered from you and you made a mistake and gave up info or a fingerprint, you are safe.

Long live the other sites!


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Re: Soo, now that Silk Road has been hit... [Re: sidewayz6.6]
    #19126554 - 11/12/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If the person used PGP, their data will be encrypted on the SR servers; But their vendor could've saved the information in clear text on their computer.

Also chances are that person is a small time buyer and not worth the time and effort. IMO the seizure of SR was used to shut it down, and go after the main vendors, not small time buyers.


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