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joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism * 1
    #18934040 - 10/05/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i don't know how anyone can hate on this dude, as he is one of the most vocal and visible supporters of our community & cause. he may be a bro, but he's a bro who tells the world how psychedelics have positively affected his life & we need more people like hime



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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: yogabunny] * 4
    #18934045 - 10/05/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah he's said some smart stuff.

I loved him on News Radio and Fear Factor.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #18934055 - 10/05/13 12:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Is this the UFC announcer?


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: Vriska Serket]
    #18934063 - 10/05/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I dunno - I never watch UFC.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: Sell Your Soul] * 2
    #18934067 - 10/05/13 12:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

UFC is gayer than five dudes fucking one dude.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: something super extreme] * 1
    #18934068 - 10/05/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

holy shit that IS the UFC announcer


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #18934102 - 10/05/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

great interview :thumbup: joe rogan is awesome. im surprised he gets so much hate on this board. just because he has said a few things wrong doesnt mean hes a cunt. who doesnt say stupid shit sometimes? hes the best guy we have to promote our cause and hes a free thinking smart individual with a great podcast


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: something super extreme]
    #18934148 - 10/05/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm definitely not a bro, but I like UFC a lot. It's the best fighters in the world.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: Vriska Serket]
    #18934154 - 10/05/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Joe Rogan is actually a very intelligent person. He doesn't look the part and I think that is why some people don't like him.
He's also very good at explaining complex things in a simplified way. That's why I like him.
His new show SyFy is pretty good too.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #18934166 - 10/05/13 12:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I admit I have talked shit on him, but since I have started listening to his podcast more my opinion has changed. Some of my favorites are:

Les Stroud
Adam Kokesh(Adam vs the man dude who is now behind bars)
Graham Hancock
Tommy Chong
Immortal Technique
Alex Grey
Maynard James Keenan
Peter Joseph( Zeitgeist Movement)


I am also not a bro or meathead type by any means and I think UFC/MMA is fuckin badass!


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: LoveYourLife]
    #18934174 - 10/05/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Joe Rogan is actually a very intelligent person. He doesn't look the part and I think that is why some people don't like him.
He's also very good at explaining complex things in a simplified way. That's why I like him.
His new show SyFy is pretty good too.



Ummm, no. Nearly all of the information in the short period I watched of this video (less than 3 mins) everything he mentions about DMT is completely unfounded. DMT may or may not be produced in the pineal gland, that is TBD. Joe Rogan is cool, but highly intelligent is a stretch and complimenting his ability to elate topics isn't valid because in this case he is reiterating parts of other truths, and forming his own, personal story on what he believes rather than factual evidence. Idk


TL;DR: he is one of those guys that argues he definitely strikes me as one of those "always right, never wrong guys"


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: SoreSpore]
    #18934179 - 10/05/13 12:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i got a thread deleted for posting one of his videos once.

apparently i was in violation of rule 4. promote intelligent discussion

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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: SoreSpore]
    #18934206 - 10/05/13 12:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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LoveYourLife said:
Joe Rogan is actually a very intelligent person. He doesn't look the part and I think that is why some people don't like him.
He's also very good at explaining complex things in a simplified way. That's why I like him.
His new show SyFy is pretty good too.



Ummm, no. Nearly all of the information in the short period I watched of this video (less than 3 mins) everything he mentions about DMT is completely unfounded. DMT may or may not be produced in the pineal gland, that is TBD. Joe Rogan is cool, but highly intelligent is a stretch and complimenting his ability to elate topics isn't valid because in this case he is reiterating parts of other truths, and forming his own, personal story on what he believes rather than factual evidence. Idk


TL;DR: he is one of those guys that argues he definitely strikes me as one of those "always right, never wrong guys"





He actually often says that he just regurgitates info he hears, he does not claim to be intelligent and has stated that he doesnt know shit.

And everything in the video he said was true, DMT has been found in lung, liver and brain tissue, and the pineal gland of rats has been proven to produce it . . .


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: SoreSpore]
    #18934230 - 10/05/13 01:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ummm, no. Nearly all of the information in the short period I watched of this video (less than 3 mins) everything he mentions about DMT is completely unfounded. DMT may or may not be produced in the pineal gland, that is TBD. Joe Rogan is cool, but highly intelligent is a stretch and complimenting his ability to elate topics isn't valid because in this case he is reiterating parts of other truths, and forming his own, personal story on what he believes rather than factual evidence. Idk


TL;DR: he is one of those guys that argues he definitely strikes me as one of those "always right, never wrong guys"




He's explaining a theory that he believes in. Lots of people out there in the community agree with him, though there is little or no evidence supporting the claim. Just because you don't think he's intelligent doesn't mean his experiences aren't valid and important.

:shrug:

It means a lot to me that someone in his position is out there boldly and bravely talking about psychedelics in a positive light.


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: yogabunny]
    #18934246 - 10/05/13 01:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Joe Rogaine and the word Transhumanism mentioned in the same sentence...LMAO!!!!

Wow!! Oh yeah dude, meathead Joe has all the answers to being Human.

Talk about funny. :rofl2:

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:ednorton:

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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: FrenchMachine]
    #18934265 - 10/05/13 01:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

why is that funny to you?


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: yogabunny]
    #18934280 - 10/05/13 01:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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why is that funny to you?




why is that confusing to you?

that dude used to be such a close-minded sober meathead UFC beat-the-fucking-shit-out-of-another-human type  of dude. used to make women cry on the set of News Radio being a dickhole and talking shit...used to give Andy Dick a bunch of shit about smoking weed and would purposely talk loudly about Andy smoking weed in front of the TV execs...UH DO YOU NEED ANY MORE FUCKING REASONS THAN THAT, HONEY?!?

so the fucking meathead vapes DMT a few times, eats some shrooms, and then get a flotation tank and we are all supposed to pretend like he has totally changed and isnt some dumbfuck meathead jock?

Seriously? Please, go ahead and tell me your opinion.


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: FrenchMachine] * 3
    #18934291 - 10/05/13 01:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What do you think about this quote, honey?





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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: yogabunny] * 2
    #18934301 - 10/05/13 01:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I like Joe Rogan a lot, in small doses. He is overly abrasive. It is pretty neat that he is a proponent of psychs, especially in his position being around diverse audiences. Although his main focus is comedy and it is a commonality for many comedians to criticize the harsh drug laws in America, his main spotlight is his podcast. The number of views he likes and gets on 2hr videos is outrageous. People are really interested in what he has to say, but more so because he has created a show with really intelligent people, that has no boundaries as far as the material they cover. The show he built up is a unique environment that has proved to be incredibly successful.

You are right, in a certain sense, it is good to have major publicity for the benefit of psychs. Seeing a stable individual who openly talks about the use of hallucinogens really opens up peoples minds. I bet there have been many bro UFC fans or even older fans that liked Rogan before they knew he did drugs like that, and probably had their opinions affected in someway throughout the process.

Good post.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: SoreSpore]
    #18934302 - 10/05/13 01:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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LoveYourLife said:
Joe Rogan is actually a very intelligent person. He doesn't look the part and I think that is why some people don't like him.
He's also very good at explaining complex things in a simplified way. That's why I like him.
His new show SyFy is pretty good too.



Ummm, no. Nearly all of the information in the short period I watched of this video (less than 3 mins) everything he mentions about DMT is completely unfounded. DMT may or may not be produced in the pineal gland, that is TBD. Joe Rogan is cool, but highly intelligent is a stretch and complimenting his ability to elate topics isn't valid because in this case he is reiterating parts of other truths, and forming his own, personal story on what he believes rather than factual evidence. Idk


TL;DR: he is one of those guys that argues he definitely strikes me as one of those "always right, never wrong guys"




what are you talking about? have you heard of the new study where they found dmt in the pineal gland of rats? thats all he mentioned. he talked about that study and then mentioned the fact that thats whats been theorized to be true for a while.


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: FrenchMachine] * 2
    #18934303 - 10/05/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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What do you think about this quote, honey?







I think its kind of funny :smirk:


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: FrenchMachine]
    #18934329 - 10/05/13 01:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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FrenchMachine said:
Joe Rogaine and the word Transhumanism mentioned in the same sentence...LMAO!!!!

Wow!! Oh yeah dude, meathead Joe has all the answers to being Human.

Talk about funny. :rofl2:

:archiebunker:

:ednorton:

:cuteshit:




Who said he had all the answers? Oh yeah, NOBODY


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #18934336 - 10/05/13 01:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Psychedelics change people, I think most of us were different people before we satarted doing psychs


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #18934357 - 10/05/13 01:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Psychedelics change people, I think most of us were different people before we started doing psychs




Yeah very very true...I am a different person now after almost 16 years of drug usage...but not all of us were close-minded meathead jocks who loved to watch 2 roided-up meatheads beat the living shit out of each other. Not all of us where close-minded meathead jocks who would talk major shit about people who smoked Cannabis and made women literally cry by being an asshole!

JUST SAYING!!!


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: FrenchMachine] * 1
    #18934358 - 10/05/13 01:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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FrenchMachine said:

why is that confusing to you?

that dude used to be such a close-minded sober meathead UFC beat-the-fucking-shit-out-of-another-human type  of dude. used to make women cry on the set of News Radio being a dickhole and talking shit...used to give Andy Dick a bunch of shit about smoking weed and would purposely talk loudly about Andy smoking weed in front of the TV execs...UH DO YOU NEED ANY MORE FUCKING REASONS THAN THAT, HONEY?!?

so the fucking meathead vapes DMT a few times, eats some shrooms, and then get a flotation tank and we are all supposed to pretend like he has totally changed and isnt some dumbfuck meathead jock?

Seriously? Please, go ahead and tell me your opinion.




so hmmm he took psychedelics and then his world view changed profoundly...sounds about right to me!


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: FrenchMachine] * 4
    #18934376 - 10/05/13 02:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Your opinion sucks. And stop saying honey.

Just because someone was a meathead, or appeared to be a douchebag in years long since passed, does not mean that is who they are forever. Nor does it mean people are just one-dimensional.

He's a cool normal guy. He doesn't pretend to have all the answers, and he admits himself a lot of his rantings come from, or are inspired by other philosophers such as Bill Hicks, Mckenna, etc. He's not the most eloquent, but he puts the ideas in a simple format that the average lay person can relate to. He keeps an open mind about things and talks honestly about what he believes, which is more than I can say for 95% of the dickwads in media. He's a good influence for all the bros.

He promotes positivity, living a healthy lifestyle, and being a good decent human being. I don't know what the fuck kind of problem you could have with that.


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Shroomism] * 2
    #18934391 - 10/05/13 02:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Tldr
There needs to be a transhuman rights bill amendment to the constitution.


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: yogabunny]
    #18934407 - 10/05/13 02:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

LOL love all the fanboys on here!

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yogabunny said:so hmmm he took psychedelics and then his world view changed profoundly...sounds about right to me!




JOE ROGAINE WAS ONE WAY...THEN HE TOOK PSYCHEDELICS...AND THEN HE WAS ANOTHER WAY!!!

Then he created a podcast and spent hours in a flotation tank and talked about McKenna...lets forget about the past!! And I'm just supposed to pretend he just changed his whole perspective on life and reality and humans because he tripped on a substance for 7 hours?

Time for more wine and music and webcam girlies!

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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: FrenchMachine] * 3
    #18934418 - 10/05/13 02:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Someone's jealous. How cute


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Shroomism]
    #18934437 - 10/05/13 02:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Someone's jealous. How cute




Awww c'mon man, is that all you could come up with your 80,000 posts? I dont have time for this shit since I sliced my middle finger open while opening this fucking bottle of wine! :devito:


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: FrenchMachine]
    #18934444 - 10/05/13 02:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: FrenchMachine] * 1
    #18934491 - 10/05/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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LOL love all the fanboys on here!

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yogabunny said:so hmmm he took psychedelics and then his world view changed profoundly...sounds about right to me!




JOE ROGAINE WAS ONE WAY...THEN HE TOOK PSYCHEDELICS...AND THEN HE WAS ANOTHER WAY!!!

Then he created a podcast and spent hours in a flotation tank and talked about McKenna...lets forget about the past!! And I'm just supposed to pretend he just changed his whole perspective on life and reality and humans because he tripped on a substance for 7 hours?

Time for more wine and music and webcam girlies!

:costanza:



Seriously though?  Why all the hate?  Have you actually ever gave the podcast a listen?  Don't be such a cock about it.  Many people change for the better after psychedelics.  This guy doesn't get a chance because he's more athletic than the average guy, or because he makes more money?

Why all the hate? :nofuckyouthough:


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: TheGreenArrow] * 2
    #18934638 - 10/05/13 03:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think we need a person like Neil de Grasse Tyson or Bill Nye as a psychedelic spokeperson. Joe Rogan basically regurgitates McKenna, who was nothing more than a science fiction author.


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #18934659 - 10/05/13 03:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

He's not a bad guy but he's just annoying. DUUUUUUUUDE YOUR BRAIN LIKE PRODUCES  DMT WHEN YOU'RE ASLEEP AND THAT'S HOW YOU DREAM!! DMT IS LIKE THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING!!!

Joe Rogan is the epitome of the 16 year old tripper with his newly found wisdom.


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #18934747 - 10/05/13 04:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Just because someone was a meathead, or appeared to be a douchebag in years long since passed, does not mean that is who they are forever. Nor does it mean people are just one-dimensional.

He's a cool normal guy. He doesn't pretend to have all the answers, and he admits himself a lot of his rantings come from, or are inspired by other philosophers such as Bill Hicks, Mckenna, etc. He's not the most eloquent, but he puts the ideas in a simple format that the average lay person can relate to. He keeps an open mind about things and talks honestly about what he believes, which is more than I can say for 95% of the dickwads in media. He's a good influence for all the bros.

He promotes positivity, living a healthy lifestyle, and being a good decent human being. I don't know what the fuck kind of problem you could have with that.



QFT.

I think Joe did really well in that interview - I enjoyed it - of course it was very drug/alternative-friendly, which helped.

My opinion on Joe:
I respect Joe for what he does. He gets some great guests on his show and exposes possibly unlikely listeners to interesting ideas. I think he does a pretty good job at promoting psychedelics, which is really important if we want public opinion changed. He's pretty open-minded and not bad as a rational thinker (wouldn't go so far as to call him highly intelligent though...). I think his main strengths are sharing his personal psychedelic experiences and regurgitating information in an interesting and, arguably, funny manner. He speaks straight and is not afraid to upset people - thumbs up for that.

On the other hand, I reckon he can sometimes lack focus, talk too much (and not listen enough), be immature, and bully. He also has some questionable promotions/commercial affiliations IMO.

It's very frustrating when he has a really incredible guest - top of their field - and Joe keeps going off on tangents, rehashing the same ideas and opinions which everyone has heard before, at the loss of valuable output from the guest. I basically can't watch his podcast for this reason - it's all over the place sometimes - no real focus or continuity with Joe's input. I reckon he should go easier on the edibles and be a bit more professional. It is the Joe Rogan Experience, however...

I highly recommend Joe's Rick Doblin (founder and president of MAPS) podcast - especially beyond the ~1hr mark.


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    #18934809 - 10/05/13 05:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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it is entertaining though.

rogan's heart's in the right place, and i like him, but he tends to misrepresent a number of key philosophical positions regarding psychedelics. i don't think it's intentional. i think he just doesn't get it on some important level. the way to have fun with rogan is to just take what he says with a grain of salt. he's an entertainer, not a philosopher.


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: yogabunny]
    #18934823 - 10/05/13 05:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

ur on crerk yogabunny


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: zZZz]
    #18934853 - 10/05/13 05:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Rogan is a bad ass. One of the main reasons I even considered touching psychedelics.


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: FrenchMachine]
    #18934856 - 10/05/13 05:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Someone's jealous. How cute




Awww c'mon man, is that all you could come up with your 80,000 posts? I dont have time for this shit since I sliced my middle finger open while opening this fucking bottle of wine! :devito:




Man I think YOU could use a psychedelic trip to remind yourself of the love and and how important having an open mind is, and to remind yourself that every human being has the potential to be something totally amazingly awesome no matter what their past is. . .


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: LysergicX7]
    #18934860 - 10/05/13 05:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Rogan is a bad ass. One of the main reasons I even considered touching psychedelics.



Really?

My reason was that I wanted to try psychs :shrug:

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Rogan is a bad ass. One of the main reasons I even considered touching psychedelics.



Really?

My reason was that I wanted to try psychs :shrug:

I had little to no idea what they were, but I had some anyway



That has to be the best reason to try anything bro! :mushroom2:


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    #18934887 - 10/05/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

He needs to suck a pound of dirt.
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    #18934890 - 10/05/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i know that i'm old, but i just have to say that it's weird to read that the repairman from news radio is turning kids on to psychedelics. we live in a strange world.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: millzy]
    #18934983 - 10/05/13 07:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Rogan is actually really impressing me. He is more skeptical and intelligent than ever before and if anyone hates on him its just because they do not understand themselves


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    #18935340 - 10/05/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Rogan is actually really impressing me. He is more skeptical and intelligent than ever before and if anyone hates on him its just because they do not understand themselves




i don't know about that. like i said, i like rogan, and i fully understand him and the thinkers he parrots.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: millzy]
    #18935352 - 10/05/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'd imagine that most of the Rogan haters are pimply neckbeards that can't get laid to save their lives, and just hate on the guy cause he gets more poon in a year than they will get in their entire lives. :shrug:


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: millzy]
    #18935353 - 10/05/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

machine: more is good
human: less is more

:wink:

I think I've seen an awakening happen to many people recently, a lot of people I know have started meditating and becoming vegan suddenly, also everybody I meet randomly lol, even old friends I hadn't talked to in many years who spent their whole life in books (just like I did once) and seemed to completely have forgotten themselves started meditating/becoming vegan/doing charity and having dalai lamas word on their walls "happiness is better shared"

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    #18935360 - 10/05/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'd take 100 Joe Rogans over some of the people I have to interact with on a daily basis. He can be a bit obnoxious at times but at least he admits to his shortcomings. And on top o that he has definitely matured a lot, listen to some of the earlier podcasts and then to a few of the more recent ones....big difference.

Shit I hate to admit it sometimes but Joe Rogan basically turned me on to psychs way back when.

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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18935377 - 10/05/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Rogan is a su8par commentator though

8as Ruten is way 8etter


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    #18935415 - 10/05/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

For fucks sake, it's a motherfucking B. Not 8. What the fuck.


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    #18935419 - 10/05/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18935438 - 10/05/13 09:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

and how do I know machines exist?

living as thoughts, buying for happiness, consuming all the time, careless about oneself / others, no joy in life, stress all the time, always wanting (attached to everything)

I used to be one... one with the system, but thoughts are invisible so you never know

before Transhumanism will become a reality we need to get most people to break free of their thoughts
most aren't ready for that (meditation,simple lifestyle etc.)

DMT can make you break free, as can any other psychedelic (LSD/Mushrooms in high doses) etc.

meditation is the slow steady road, psychedelics is the hard fast road

transhumanism isn't only for the few, it should be for the whole world, and thoughts all the time controlling us are holding us back

"

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don't watch tv, work minimum hours, less is more ;-)


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: yogabunny]
    #18935481 - 10/05/13 10:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I haven't listened to him recently, but he spreads a decent amount of misinformation.  He might be better now if he did a bit more research, but the last time I listened to him I had to turn it off.


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    #18935506 - 10/05/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Just listened to that, he's still spreading misinformation.  You don't spread theories as fact, wtf.  Manna being psychedelic, pineal being 3rd eye, pineal gland's job making DMT.  I have no problem with people spreading theroies, but you NEED to identify it as such.  He speaks ideas as facts, and that's why I dislike him.


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: FrenchMachine]
    #18935516 - 10/05/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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so the fucking meathead vapes DMT a few times, eats some shrooms, and then get a flotation tank and we are all supposed to pretend like he has totally changed and isnt some dumbfuck meathead jock?

Seriously?




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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Mr. Material]
    #18935519 - 10/05/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:ancientaliens:



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    #18936205 - 10/05/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You motherfuckers don't even know the level people like Joe rogan and Immortal technique are on. They are true leaders of the new age and they are in on the whole shebang. Immortal Technique, i truly feel, wrote a song FOR me to listen to on my mescaline journey because he goes all out using THE WORD as THE WORD. Each word is divided down to the lowest common denominator to make you feel THE TRUTH. Here it is, it is beautiful and it made me cry. The first video is just the song, the next video is the amazing podcast i listened to while on the journey and i feel they explained everything that i went through..they SCHOOLED ME TO THE GAME as they say. They brought me under their wing of mind-reading truth.

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    #18936238 - 10/05/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The only time Joe Rogan is acceptable is when he's on Fear Factor


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    #18936274 - 10/05/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Joe Rogan will be acceptable when he is in his grave.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: fapjack]
    #18936328 - 10/05/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Just listened to that, he's still spreading misinformation.  You don't spread theories as fact, wtf.  Manna being psychedelic, pineal being 3rd eye, pineal gland's job making DMT.  I have no problem with people spreading theroies, but you NEED to identify it as such.  He speaks ideas as facts, and that's why I dislike him.





I challenge you to post a RECENT link of him saying those theories as fact and not identifying them as theories . . .


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #18937352 - 10/05/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No matter what you think of the guy, his podcasts bring forth some legitimate intellectual discussions. He has a wide variety of guests talking about everything you can think of, and they use all the information and knowledge they have to discuss the topic at hand.


I think he just takes all the information he can find and bases his opinions and theories off that. I don't think he try's to say all these things are fact.


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    #18937609 - 10/05/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Your opinion sucks. And stop saying honey.

Just because someone was a meathead, or appeared to be a douchebag in years long since passed, does not mean that is who they are forever. Nor does it mean people are just one-dimensional.

He's a cool normal guy. He doesn't pretend to have all the answers, and he admits himself a lot of his rantings come from, or are inspired by other philosophers such as Bill Hicks, Mckenna, etc. He's not the most eloquent, but he puts the ideas in a simple format that the average lay person can relate to. He keeps an open mind about things and talks honestly about what he believes, which is more than I can say for 95% of the dickwads in media. He's a good influence for all the bros.

He promotes positivity, living a healthy lifestyle, and being a good decent human being. I don't know what the fuck kind of problem you could have with that.




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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: WoodsyMermaid]
    #18937980 - 10/05/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Shroomism is on FIRE with this post and his post on Silk Road getting replaced so and so. Keep it up man


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Joe Rogan will be acceptable when he is in his grave.




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so the fucking meathead vapes DMT a few times, eats some shrooms, and then get a flotation tank and we are all supposed to pretend like he has totally changed and isnt some dumbfuck meathead jock?

Seriously?




:whathesaid:




At least someone on here has brains.


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Actually I'm neither...I'm not a cunt or a troll. I'm a decent looking thin white dude who is in his early 30's but everyone thinks is in his early 20's!!! Dont be jealous, ddduuudddeee!


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Joe Rogan will be acceptable when he is in his grave.




True words right here.

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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: yogabunny]
    #18938688 - 10/06/13 01:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I like his podcast and every other podcast his show got me into.
Duncan Trussell family hour, Ari Shaffir's skeptic tank, the church of what happening now with Joey Diaz, Bertcast, and the Bryan Callen show is good sometimes. 
The JRE alone is probably 1K hours of free entertainment.

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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: yogabunny]
    #18939387 - 10/06/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I agree, Yogabunny.  Joe Rogan is good for the counterculture.  It's almost as if he's an undercover hippie operative that has infiltrated the UFC, jock mentality, bonehead crowd.  That crowd wouldn't hear those ideas from Wavy Gravy, but they'd listen to "one of their own". 















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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Learyfan]
    #18939533 - 10/06/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:burke: at all the unathletic beta males in this thread that are "so enlightened" yet judge people that take physical fitness seriously. Grow up.


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Dark_Star] * 3
    #18939592 - 10/06/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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:burke: at all the unathletic beta males in this thread that are "so enlightened" yet judge people that take physical fitness seriously. Grow up.




Or maybe they just don't like Joe Rogan ? :shrug: Just because they disagree with you doesn't mean they're "unathletic beta males"


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Dark_Star]
    #18939602 - 10/06/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:what:  I didn't say anything negative at all about physical fitness.  I like working out.  So you fucking grow up.

















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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Constantine]
    #18939617 - 10/06/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My post wasn't directed at those that don't like what he has to say, it was directed at those who call him a meathead as their justification as to why they don't like him. I have no problem with people disagreeing with the way he spreads his message. I do, however, have a problem with the rampant "headier than thou" attitude that I see on this forum. Judging someone as a "meathead" because they work out, take martial arts, and work for UFC is straight up ignorant. It's an attitude that I've seen for years, and not just here. Every single person I've seen that has this attitude is an unathletic beta male, and they're taking out some form of inner insecurity on anyone that's not.


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Learyfan]
    #18939626 - 10/06/13 10:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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:what:  I didn't say anything negative at all about physical fitness.  I like working out.  So you fucking grow up.







Once again, that post was strictly directed at those calling Joe a meathead. You were not one of those people, so that post was not directed at you. It was mainly directed at that FrenchMachine dude. I figured that was obvious, and therefore didn't use the reply to function.


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Dark_Star]
    #18939636 - 10/06/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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My post wasn't directed at those that don't like what he has to say, it was directed at those who call him a meathead as their justification as to why they don't like him. I have no problem with people disagreeing with the way he spreads his message. I do, however, have a problem with the rampant "headier than thou" attitude that I see on this forum. Judging someone as a "meathead" because they work out, take martial arts, and work for UFC is straight up ignorant. It's an attitude that I've seen for years, and not just here. Every single person I've seen that has this attitude is an unathletic beta male, and they're taking out some form of inner insecurity on anyone that's not.





Ive said this since day 1. I also see a lot of hate on TERENCE MCKENNA. Like SERIOUSLY?

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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Dark_Star] * 1
    #18939666 - 10/06/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You responded directly to my post, and I said UFC fans are boneheads.  So you were talking to me.  In general, UFC fans are close minded jocks who are obsessed with fighting and being tough.  That is the same mindset that started wars in Vietnam and Iraq and it's the same mindset that seeks to crush the faggot peace movement.  If it makes me "holier than thou" to not agree with that mentality, then so be it.  I'll bet there are groups of people and mentalities that you don't agree with also. 

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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Dark_Star]
    #18939678 - 10/06/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Once again, that post was strictly directed at those calling Joe a meathead. You were not one of those people, so that post was not directed at you. It was mainly directed at that FrenchMachine dude. I figured that was obvious, and therefore didn't use the reply to function.




I didn't even read this thread.  I just jumped in to show support for Joe Rogan.

















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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Dark_Star]
    #18939715 - 10/06/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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My post wasn't directed at those that don't like what he has to say, it was directed at those who call him a meathead as their justification as to why they don't like him. I have no problem with people disagreeing with the way he spreads his message. I do, however, have a problem with the rampant "headier than thou" attitude that I see on this forum. Judging someone as a "meathead" because they work out, take martial arts, and work for UFC is straight up ignorant. It's an attitude that I've seen for years, and not just here. Every single person I've seen that has this attitude is an unathletic beta male, and they're taking out some form of inner insecurity on anyone that's not.



I don't think the word "meathead" means what you think it does.  Maybe its meaning has changed over time but for me it just means moron.  I'm not going to opine on whether he is a meathead or not but I did look up transhumanism.  I don't think so.


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18939748 - 10/06/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't think the word "meathead" means what you think it does.  Maybe its meaning has changed over time but for me it just means moron. 




That's what it means to me.  I definitely think you can be big and buff and still be an intelligent peace advocate.  Joe Rogan is a great example of that.  And he's a great comedian on top of everything else. 

















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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: FrenchMachine] * 1
    #18940328 - 10/06/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

newsflash HONEY! opening your mind & heart through use of psychedelic materials and other stillness practices is not just for hippies with dreads who attend music festivals and live out of their van.

by your estimation, my Dad should not be allowed to continue his practice of Yoga because he's a blue collar worker who only ever cared about sports, beer and the standard american diet. i guess he shouldn't be allowed to change and share how his life has changed as a result either? thankfully he IS very vocal about it, and some of the guys he welds with are now going, "hmmm maybe we should check out this yoga thing". & that, in my opinion is a beautiful thing.....

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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: yogabunny]
    #18940414 - 10/06/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know that I would really describe him as awesome.

His UFC commentary is decent at times, that job fits him well, as did Fear Factor.

His standup is fucking weak, I tried to like it but it's just not funny. Or original. Or well delivered.

I've heard him pass off misinformation as truth repeatedly on his podcasts, especially about how we have "no idea" how the pyramids were made and how we couldn't recreate them today. :rolleyes:

He is not a bro, he is the bro archetype.

He does have awesome cars though and I'm sure it'd be fun to live his life for a week, but if I had to listen to his stories about mysticism, dmt as the solution for everything, and humanity as a cancer for that entire week, I might kill myself instead.


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    #18940425 - 10/06/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i saw his standup live once and laughed my ass off.

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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Constantine]
    #18940473 - 10/06/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

How drunk were you? And how recent was that?

I don't mean to hate on the guy but every time I've let someone convince me to watch his standup I've been bored out of my mind, and I love standup comedy. He might be better nowadays, it's been a while since I gave him a shot and hopefully he has improved his craft a bit since then.

I definitely give him credit for calling out Carlos Mencia on his joke thievery and German heritage. Still not giving him the awesome award though.

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    #18940477 - 10/06/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I love how its the people who preach peace and tollerance attacking the jock stereotype. Maybe the "alpha male" type stuck his weiner in your ear in hs and you have not gotten over it. Maybe he put his weiner in your GF's butt, no matter where he put his weiner in hs to piss you off. But joe rogan probably wasn't the sane guy and if he was thats fucking hilarious.

The whole meathead/jock stereotype people seem to be bashing in here the same can be said for vegans, hippies, what have you.

The guy may not be a scientist, or even book smart, but he is very successful and does discuss some extremely interesting shit on his podcast. And his whole noahs arch bit had me dieing.


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #18940687 - 10/06/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i wasn't drunk at all, and it was probably 7 or 8 years ago. i was actually kind of annoyed that my mother dragged me there to see the guy from fear factor, and ended up ROFL.


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    #18941030 - 10/06/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You responded directly to my post, and I said UFC fans are boneheads.  So you were talking to me.  In general, UFC fans are close minded jocks who are obsessed with fighting and being tough.  That is the same mindset that started wars in Vietnam and Iraq and it's the same mindset that seeks to crush the faggot peace movement.  If it makes me "holier than thou" to not agree with that mentality, then so be it.  I'll bet there are groups of people and mentalities that you don't agree with also. 

Let me reiterate that I have absolutely nothing against fitness, working out and being muscular.  I like working out. 





















I am a UFC fan as are most of my freinds. There is not really any of us that are close-minded jocks. We just like watching people fight . . .:shrug:


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    #18941123 - 10/06/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

A lot of my friends do too.  I just mean in general.  Not all UFC fans are like that. 


















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Joe Rogan is a cool dude :thumbup:


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
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Did yogabunny just change her name?


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    #18941412 - 10/06/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

obviously.

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    #18941433 - 10/06/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well I'll be damned.  That's even crazier than me changing mine


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    #18941580 - 10/06/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

change is good zappa

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    #18941598 - 10/06/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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change is good zappa

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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Dawks] * 1
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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: yogabunny]
    #18943371 - 10/07/13 04:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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newsflash HONEY! opening your mind & heart through use of psychedelic materials and other stillness practices is not just for hippies with dreads who attend music festivals and live out of their van.

by your estimation, my Dad should not be allowed to continue his practice of Yoga because he's a blue collar worker who only ever cared about sports, beer and the standard american diet. i guess he shouldn't be allowed to change and share how his life has changed as a result either? thankfully he IS very vocal about it, and some of the guys he welds with are now going, "hmmm maybe we should check out this yoga thing". & that, in my opinion is a beautiful thing.....

"the only thing that's inevitable is change"




wow SWEETHEART...whats wrong with being a hippie with long hair who lives in a van down by the river and goes to Loolapalooza?

Opening your mind & heart through the use of psychedelic materials require much work. Doesnt happen after a few trips. Requires long-term work which most people wont realize unfortunately. Just ask Ram Dass or Terence McKenna. Have you ever heard of them, HONEY?

Your dad does yoga and watches football? Thats a rare mix. Well I guess that is better than him sitting on his fat ass while he stares at the TV like my dumbfuck boring family members do. At least he is being somewhat active...if you can say that doing yoga is being active.

Wait...I thought this thread was about Joe Rogaine? How did we get into boring American TV watches who do half-ass exercise?

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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: Mescalean]
    #18943385 - 10/07/13 04:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I love how its the people who preach peace and tollerance attacking the jock stereotype. Maybe the "alpha male" type stuck his weiner in your ear in hs and you have not gotten over it. Maybe he put his weiner in your GF's butt, no matter where he put his weiner in hs to piss you off. But joe rogan probably wasn't the sane guy and if he was thats fucking hilarious.

The whole meathead/jock stereotype people seem to be bashing in here the same can be said for vegans, hippies, what have you.

The guy may not be a scientist, or even book smart, but he is very successful and does discuss some extremely interesting shit on his podcast. And his whole noahs arch bit had me dieing.




The alpha male jock stuck his huge 22 inch weiner into much more than my ear and much more than my GF's butt...omg he shoved it into my tight virgin butthole...and then he took it out and crammed it into my mouth...and then he jammed it into my eyeball which hurt really bad!!!

After he came over & over into my eyeballz then he started shoving it into my GF's butt...she screamed and pretended she didnt like it but I could totally tell that deep down inside she was just faking it, putting on a act...I knew she loved it!!! That is why she came & squirted all over the place.

Oh wait...where we supposed to be talking about jocks and meathead stereotypes? The whole 'dumb dude/going out to get laid at the club dude/bitchez love my new haircut dude'?



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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #18943607 - 10/07/13 06:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Just listened to that, he's still spreading misinformation.  You don't spread theories as fact, wtf.  Manna being psychedelic, pineal being 3rd eye, pineal gland's job making DMT.  I have no problem with people spreading theroies, but you NEED to identify it as such.  He speaks ideas as facts, and that's why I dislike him.





I challenge you to post a RECENT link of him saying those theories as fact and not identifying them as theories . . .





In the video he says they have shown live rats produce DMT in the pineal which is false, they have identified DMT inside of the pineal gland of live rats.  The guy talks with an authority he doesn't have, he isn't well informed enough nor smart enough to talk about what he talks about IMO.  I always thought Terrance McKenna was batshit crazy, but the guy knew what he was talking about.  I've listened to a lot of what Joe Rogan says, and I think he doesn't know as much as he thinks he does.  I loved him when he was on UFC btw, and I do find him funny.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: fapjack]
    #18943652 - 10/07/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Terrance Mckenna had a bad trip in the 80's and never touched mushrooms again yet preached it like it was the word and was himself scared of it, and you say he knew what he was talking about? DMT elves? Give me a break, the man was highly intelligent and had some very interesting ides but in the end didnt know any more than any of us about psychedelics and was a hypocrite


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    #18943663 - 10/07/13 07:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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In the video he says they have shown live rats produce DMT in the pineal which is false, they have identified DMT inside of the pineal gland of live rats.  The guy talks with an authority he doesn't have, he isn't well informed enough nor smart enough to talk about what he talks about IMO




Get your facts straight buddy. You need to read more carefully. He was right, you are wrong. Trying to bust a guy for semantics and end up making yourself look like a fool lol

http://www.cottonwoodresearch.org/dmt-pineal-2013/

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Research at the University of Wisconsin has recently demonstrated the presence of the DMT-synthesizing enzyme as well as activity of the gene responsible for the enzyme in pineal (and retina). Our new data now establish that the enzyme actively produces DMT in the pineal.




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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #18943676 - 10/07/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Liquidglass, don't even bother responding to the last 2 posts. Pure ignorance.

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    #18943753 - 10/07/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I haven't stayed current on DMT research, and that was a newer study.  Still though, I can give plenty of other examples and I never claimed to be an expert.  BTW the study still doesn't show that the pineal produces DMT nor the enzymes that convert  N-methyltryptamine into DMT, which is why the title of the study is "DMT Found in the Pineal Gland of Live Rats" not "DMT found to be created in the pineal glad of live rats".  Could be wrong about that one, but it makes sense to me.  I think you are wrong about that one.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: fapjack]
    #18945153 - 10/07/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Who fucking cares? Does it really matter?  Isn't it enough to just say DMT ends up in your pineal gland?  Jeezus.


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    #18945175 - 10/07/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well saying that jizz was found in your bed sheets and jizz was created in your bed sheets isn't really the same thing.


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Well saying that jizz was found in your bed sheets and jizz was created in your bed sheets isn't really the same thing.



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Well saying that jizz was found in your bed sheets and jizz was created in your bed sheets isn't really the same thing.



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    #18945269 - 10/07/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I haven't stayed current on DMT research, and that was a newer study.  Still though, I can give plenty of other examples and I never claimed to be an expert.  BTW the study still doesn't show that the pineal produces DMT nor the enzymes that convert  N-methyltryptamine into DMT, which is why the title of the study is "DMT Found in the Pineal Gland of Live Rats" not "DMT found to be created in the pineal glad of live rats".  Could be wrong about that one, but it makes sense to me.  I think you are wrong about that one.




You can "think" I am wrong all you want, but the evidence is there. Did you even read the article or the quote? This is directly from the article and they clearly state that DMT IS PRODUCED WITHIN THE PINEAL GLAND

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Research at the University of Wisconsin has recently demonstrated the presence of the DMT-synthesizing enzyme as well as activity of the gene responsible for the enzyme in pineal (and retina). Our new data now establish that the enzyme actively produces DMT in the pineal.




So you, who has no credentials in science, are saying that these proffessional scientists are wrong? Lol


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: yogabunny]
    #18945270 - 10/07/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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change is good zappa

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Pika as in the lil animal... or the disease where you eat a lot of dirt? :smilingpuppy:


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #18945331 - 10/07/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I haven't stayed current on DMT research, and that was a newer study.  Still though, I can give plenty of other examples and I never claimed to be an expert.  BTW the study still doesn't show that the pineal produces DMT nor the enzymes that convert  N-methyltryptamine into DMT, which is why the title of the study is "DMT Found in the Pineal Gland of Live Rats" not "DMT found to be created in the pineal glad of live rats".  Could be wrong about that one, but it makes sense to me.  I think you are wrong about that one.




You can "think" I am wrong all you want, but the evidence is there. Did you even read the article or the quote? This is directly from the article and they clearly state that DMT IS PRODUCED WITHIN THE PINEAL GLAND

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Research at the University of Wisconsin has recently demonstrated the presence of the DMT-synthesizing enzyme as well as activity of the gene responsible for the enzyme in pineal (and retina). Our new data now establish that the enzyme actively produces DMT in the pineal.




So you, who has no credentials in science, are saying that these proffessional scientists are wrong? Lol





Does the pineal produce the enzyme?  Does the enzyme produce DMT elsewhere other than the pineal gland?  Its been a while since I've read up on DMT, as I'm not as interested in it as I used to be but I remember reading that DMT was found in the blood as was the enzyme that produced it.


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Re: joe rogan on dmt & transhumanism [Re: twighead]
    #18945344 - 10/07/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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change is good zappa

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Pika as in the lil animal... or the disease where you eat a lot of dirt? :smilingpuppy:



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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: FrenchMachine] * 1
    #18945392 - 10/07/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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wow SWEETHEART...whats wrong with being a hippie with long hair who lives in a van down by the river and goes to Loolapalooza?

Opening your mind & heart through the use of psychedelic materials require much work. Doesnt happen after a few trips. Requires long-term work which most people wont realize unfortunately. Just ask Ram Dass or Terence McKenna. Have you ever heard of them, HONEY?

Your dad does yoga and watches football? Thats a rare mix. Well I guess that is better than him sitting on his fat ass while he stares at the TV like my dumbfuck boring family members do. At least he is being somewhat active...if you can say that doing yoga is being active.

Wait...I thought this thread was about Joe Rogaine? How did we get into boring American TV watches who do half-ass exercise?

hhhmmmmmm





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Opening your mind & heart through the use of psychedelic materials require much work. Doesnt happen after a few trips. Requires long-term work which most people wont realize unfortunately. Just ask Ram Dass or Terence McKenna. Have you ever heard of them, HONEY?




LOL, ok. Terence McKenna actually used to talk a lot about how psychedelics as tools for transcendent/spiritual experiences were short cuts, and how that he'd prefer the short cut to "sweeping up the ashram for 30 years". With regard to psychedelics all it takes is a little bit of courage and down the hatch, so to speak. And a few trips can be enough for some people, Steve Jobs & Tom Robbins come to mind.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: fapjack]
    #18945398 - 10/07/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I haven't stayed current on DMT research, and that was a newer study.  Still though, I can give plenty of other examples and I never claimed to be an expert.  BTW the study still doesn't show that the pineal produces DMT nor the enzymes that convert  N-methyltryptamine into DMT, which is why the title of the study is "DMT Found in the Pineal Gland of Live Rats" not "DMT found to be created in the pineal glad of live rats".  Could be wrong about that one, but it makes sense to me.  I think you are wrong about that one.




You can "think" I am wrong all you want, but the evidence is there. Did you even read the article or the quote? This is directly from the article and they clearly state that DMT IS PRODUCED WITHIN THE PINEAL GLAND

Quote:

Research at the University of Wisconsin has recently demonstrated the presence of the DMT-synthesizing enzyme as well as activity of the gene responsible for the enzyme in pineal (and retina). Our new data now establish that the enzyme actively produces DMT in the pineal.




So you, who has no credentials in science, are saying that these proffessional scientists are wrong? Lol





Does the pineal produce the enzyme?  Does the enzyme produce DMT elsewhere other than the pineal gland?  Its been a while since I've read up on DMT, as I'm not as interested in it as I used to be but I remember reading that DMT was found in the blood as was the enzyme that produced it.





It has been found in blood, urine, lung tissue, liver tissue, but the lack of human subjects has not pinned down where it is coming from in humans, but in rats it is actively produced in the pineal gland, not sure if they found it being actively produced anywhere else in the body yet


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: yogabunny]
    #18945418 - 10/07/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #18945484 - 10/07/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



He says DMT and said enzymes capable of converting X into DMT are found in lung tissue.  I like listening to people like Steven Barker, Rick Strassman, Shulgin, and a number of other scientists talk about drugs as they know so much.  I don't like hearing about drugs from someone that knows less about them then half of the online drug community.  Listening to him reminds me of the days I used to read totse for shits and giggles.  You can ride on his cock all you want to though, more power to you.  I on the other hand think he's someone that knows a bit about what he's talking about, but not as much as he thinks he does.  I wish someone that got as much attention as he does knew a lot more than what he knows.

I don't hold anything Joe Rogan has previously said against him either, and I think he has really good intentions.  He probably does do more good than bad for the psychedelic community, I just want to see a scientist up there on the soap box.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: fapjack] * 1
    #18945486 - 10/07/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:laugh2:



ps frenchie- Also believe the structure of DNA was discovered by Francis Crick during a single LSD session...just sayin'


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: yogabunny]
    #18946064 - 10/07/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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ps frenchie- Also believe the structure of DNA was discovered by Francis Crick during a single LSD session...just sayin'




I don't think so and there was a woman involved who got no credit at all.  The discovery of DNA was not an overnight thing.  It was a lot of hard work.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18946131 - 10/07/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

true! i guess a better way to phrase it is to say, he was reportedly using lsd during the time that he discovered the structure of dna with his team.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: yogabunny]
    #18946175 - 10/07/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:grin:I knew I had you when I credited Rosalind Franklin.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18947562 - 10/07/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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He says DMT and said enzymes capable of converting X into DMT are found in lung tissue.  I like listening to people like Steven Barker, Rick Strassman, Shulgin, and a number of other scientists talk about drugs as they know so much.  I don't like hearing about drugs from someone that knows less about them then half of the online drug community.  Listening to him reminds me of the days I used to read totse for shits and giggles.  You can ride on his cock all you want to though, more power to you.  I on the other hand think he's someone that knows a bit about what he's talking about, but not as much as he thinks he does.  I wish someone that got as much attention as he does knew a lot more than what he knows.





http://www.thespiritmolecule.com/html/resources.php#
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I dont really see him as some great authority on anything, and in fact he himself does not either. In the past he has said some questionable things, as I am sure we all have, but he has learned and been educated just like is possible for any one of us. And several times I have heard him say that he is really just some dumb guy repeating what he heard. And i dont think all these people "ride is cock" as you so eloquently put it, he is just another human being no greater than the rest of us but happens to be a famous comedian/actor who has a podcast that is interesting and funny to listen to.

If you want those other more qualified people to get more attention then you should convince them to have a successful career in show business and then they will get as much attention as joe rogaine


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: fapjack]
    #18952685 - 10/09/13 02:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Holy hell that looks like a pissed-off pussy. Like a mini-tiger! :shocked:

I've seen a few mad pussies in my day... but my big cock can really do some damage!! Thankfully those ones dont have sharp teeth & strong jaw muscles!!


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: yogabunny]
    #18952700 - 10/09/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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pika* said:ps frenchie- Also believe the structure of DNA was discovered by Francis Crick during a single LSD session...just sayin'




So do you believe that Crick WAS NOT experimenting with LSD around the time he supposedly came up with the whole 'DNA structure' thing? I dont know all the details about this whole thing.

Please set me straight. It tickles me pink that you even acknowledge my existence.

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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: FrenchMachine]
    #18952956 - 10/09/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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pika* said:ps frenchie- Also believe the structure of DNA was discovered by Francis Crick during a single LSD session...just sayin'




So do you believe that Crick WAS NOT experimenting with LSD around the time he supposedly came up with the whole 'DNA structure' thing? I dont know all the details about this whole thing.

Please set me straight. It tickles me pink that you even acknowledge my existence.

"Nobody ever told me that I spill more than I drink...I didnt know that I didnt know that I didnt know..."




From what I know someone close to him saif that he basically on his deathbed admitted to LSD helping him come up with it, but as someone stated before there he didnt do it by himself, there was a woman who deserved more credit than she got. I think she took the photos or something like that, cant remember now and dont feel like looking it up


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: LiquidGlass]
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pika* said:ps frenchie- Also believe the structure of DNA was discovered by Francis Crick during a single LSD session...just sayin'




So do you believe that Crick WAS NOT experimenting with LSD around the time he supposedly came up with the whole 'DNA structure' thing? I dont know all the details about this whole thing.

Please set me straight. It tickles me pink that you even acknowledge my existence.

"Nobody ever told me that I spill more than I drink...I didnt know that I didnt know that I didnt know..."




From what I know someone close to him saif that he basically on his deathbed admitted to LSD helping him come up with it, but as someone stated before there he didnt do it by himself, there was a woman who deserved more credit than she got. I think she took the photos or something like that, cant remember now and dont feel like looking it up




Yep, she was a crystallographer extraordinaire who helped interpret the interference patterns in the X-ray photographs.


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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: FrenchMachine]
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Holy hell that looks like a pissed-off pussy. Like a mini-tiger! :shocked:

I've seen a few mad pussies in my day... but my big cock can really do some damage!! Thankfully those ones dont have sharp teeth & strong jaw muscles!!



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Re: joe rogan is awesome [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18957878 - 10/10/13 03:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

she deserves a little more credit than that, honestly. if it weren't for her work, it's most likely watson and crick would have continued building their little models incorrectly for some time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosalind_Franklin#Contribution_to_the_model_of_DNA


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    #18958776 - 10/10/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I thought I gave her quite a lot quite a lot of credit and as accurate a description of what she did as you can provide in one sentence.


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