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dontthinkso
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My totally square wife dropping hints...
#18934013 - 10/04/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm married, two kids, house in the suburbs, totally square life.
But back in the day, I did a lot of experimenting with psychedelics. It was an obsession for awhile. Then I developed some physical problems with it, including very painful stomach cramps, and a series of terrible trips made me hang it up for good a long time ago.
Lately I've been getting an itch to go back again. I don't really know why, maybe it's your basic midlife crisis of trying to recapture youth. Cheaper than a sports car I guess!
But here's the thing that's got me thinking. My wife is totally square about drugs. She smoked pot once or twice, and hated it. But she's into the "natural" thing in a huge way. And recently she dropped hints twice that she would like to try mushrooms.
I am scared that she'll flip out. She gets stressed out pretty easily. On the other hand, I feel like a profound trip could be something that could be really good for her to get her to... I don't even know how to describe it. But I think everyone who has ventured deep into psychedelics knows the basic idea - like we've been out there and lived to tell about it. Nothing in everyday life that you throw at us is going to phase us. It's all small beans compared to what we've experienced. You don't know stress until you've been in the throes of a bad trip. What people call "work stress"? Pffft. Give me a fuckin' break.
I've always felt like my experimentation with psychedelics has given me a perspective on life that works to my advantage. I want that feeling for her, and think she could benefit from it.
I am thinking about presenting it as a shamanistic ritual for her. I think she will eat this up, and will be more likely to have a good experience. I want to take her into the woods for a night and be her sitter, and play up the ritual of it all.
At the same time, I'm scared that she'll freak the fuck out, and hate me "letting" her do it.
Any advice here? I'm tempted but also somewhat reluctant to go through with this.
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: dontthinkso]
#18934031 - 10/05/13 12:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If it feels right, do it. If it doesn't feel right, might be best to hold off with it.
It can be tough, but if you are a good guide and know what to expect things should go smoothly. It is tough talking someone out of a 'bad trip', but it is do able. Just have to explain to them what is happening and that it is totally normal, nothing to fret about.
I feel a lot of noobz to mushrooms do not know what to expect from the whole experience. If you sit her down and give her the low down of what may happen and why it may happen there is a much better chance of it being a good experience.
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Edited by dodgem (10/05/13 12:04 AM)
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: dontthinkso]
#18934036 - 10/05/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just float it by her sometime and see if she'd want to do it. You could always wait until you've both had a couple drinks if you think she'd be more receptive to the idea. You certainly can't force mushrooms on somebody, that will guarantee a bad time for all involved, and acting like you really want to do it might freak her out or cause resentment. If she's dropping hints though, then she's probably game. When I shroom with my wife she always takes half of what I do, that seems to work pretty well for us, the one time I forgot that and took what I considered a low dose and gave her the same, she flipped the fuck out. If she says yes, have her do 1g or less of cubensis and go from there.
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: dontthinkso]
#18934041 - 10/05/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just be absolutely positive she knows that she is ready to try a psychedelic, it's not something to be taken lightly. The whole ritual sounds like it'll be a great introduction. I've been waiting to try dmt until my buddy performs the ritual for me.
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: dodgem]
#18934043 - 10/05/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I use to take lots of drugs with my wife including MDMA, cocaine, ketamine but it wasnt untill the night we both tried LSD and we got the dose wrong and was a fucking mental trip, took like 4 days to fully adjust back and it totally put her off all drugs, well except drinking but even that not much anymore.
I would say, never give a small female the same dose as you!
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
#18934054 - 10/05/13 12:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also, I personally think going straight for an entheogenic dose is a recipe for disaster. Take a light dose, listen to some tunes and bond together, if she want to do it again and go balls deep, then she'll know more what she's getting into. I've never been able to convince my wife to go deeper than level 3, and that is pushing it.
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: Chilled]
#18934060 - 10/05/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lots of great input already!
A few thoughts:
I think I will wait until the next time she mentions it, no matter how long that takes. I would want her to feel like it's something she initiated, not something I pushed on her. What she has said both times was "mushrooms are on my bucket list" when drug use was being discussed for whatever reason.
I think I will call her bluff. "Well then I think you should try it, I could be your guide" and see where that goes. If she's game...
There's the question of dose. I am definitely going to go easy, but I also don't want it to be kind of a joke of an experience that she can write off as "I tried it, it's no big deal." I will probably go for the 1g range.
So here's the next question: should I be the sober sitter, or should I be the tripping partner. I remember for my trips, I always felt a total affinity for my tripping partners, and an alienation from anyone who "couldn't understand" what I was going through.
Part of me wants to play it safe and be a sober sitter, part of me wants to go into that space with her so we can share the experience. Thoughts on that?
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: dontthinkso]
#18934078 - 10/05/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have never been a fan of having others around that are not tripping with me. Usually it is not a big deal, but there have been a few occasions where the sober people just inherently give off bad vibes. I would personally say closer to 1.5g may be a better dose. Like you said, you want her to feel something, make the experience worth it.
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: dontthinkso]
#18934084 - 10/05/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Going into together would be nice. Id recommend giving her a half eighth for her first dose. Is a perfect introduction
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: dontthinkso]
#18934091 - 10/05/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Let her take a low dose in a mellow environment and have some benzos on hand to give her if she starts freakin
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: nicechrisman]
#18934097 - 10/05/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Let her take a low dose in a mellow environment and have some benzos on hand to give her if she starts freakin
He says she's against drugs, except natural ones. Doubt she'd want benzos.
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: nicechrisman]
#18934113 - 10/05/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Benzos... great idea in case of emergency but I have no access to that sorta thing anymore. What's the best way to score a script these days? lol...
I have decided I will partake with her, maybe splitting an eight a little heavier to me.
Now, with my luck she'll never bring it up again. I'm pretty good at engineering conversation though...
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
#18934115 - 10/05/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah but it's a pharmaceutical. sometimes people feel differently about them. Besides I'd only give it to her if she was freakin.
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
#18934122 - 10/05/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
MrMagicMushroom said:
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nicechrisman said: Let her take a low dose in a mellow environment and have some benzos on hand to give her if she starts freakin
He says she's against drugs, except natural ones. Doubt she'd want benzos.
True, but if she was flipping it might be different.
I did a lot of acid way back when, she's always like "why would you do a nasty *chemical* like that, if I was gonna do something I would do something *natural* like mushrooms..."
Oh, you are so naive... lol. Doesn't matter whether it's synthesized in the cells of a plant or in a test tube baby, it'll fuck up your world either way.
Edited by dontthinkso (10/05/13 12:31 AM)
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: dontthinkso]
#18934135 - 10/05/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It all comes down to chemicals in everything. It's the psilocybin that effects her, not the actual fruit body it's self. Psilocybin could also be synthed in a lab. Doesn't make a difference if it's from nature or not really, it's all chemicals anyway.
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
#18934139 - 10/05/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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MrMagicMushroom said: It all comes down to chemicals in everything. It's the psilocybin that effects her, not the actual fruit body it's self. Psilocybin could also be synthed in a lab. Doesn't make a difference if it's from nature or not really, it's all chemicals anyway. 
Shhh.. she might hear you. Never mind, though, she's heard me say things like that a million times and never changes her view on it. Water is a fucking chemical.
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: dontthinkso]
#18934163 - 10/05/13 12:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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she obviously wants to do it. Just bring it up, have the mushrooms on hand first, that way the night she is in the right frame of mind you are ready. And I don't know about others but my first time tripping I was around a few sober people and it made me paranoid like they were staring at me so I would def trip with her. Light dose to let her understand what its about, then if she is good with that go balls deep. good luck!!
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: dirty]
#18934249 - 10/05/13 01:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would go with what you said earlier, split the 8th with 2g for you and 1.5g for her. Anything less than 1.5g is just euphoria for me.
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: dontthinkso]
#18935023 - 10/05/13 07:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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dontthinkso said: I'm married, two kids, house in the suburbs, totally square life.....
From reading your original post, I can tell that you and I have a lot in common. In fact, aside from some details I could have written that same post. One big detail, however, is that my wife isn't so keen on the idea of tripping. I returned to psychedelics about a year ago after (mostly) a 30 year hiatus. She and I tripped one time back in 1991, her only time. We had a blast but since then we became parents, home owners and business owners. We both have elderly parents who we worry about, kids who are getting older, colleges to think about... all that real-life stuff. When it comes to tripping, I can handle it. Since I grew my shrooms, I've had a few solo trips and I think I'm good at clearing my mind of the stressful things and just floating with the fun part of my mind. My wife, however, is probably not capable of that. She's slightly interested in tripping but she talks about how it would suck for her because she'd just worry about everything the whole time. She gets bad migraine headaches each month, so I'm playing that angle - "let's just trip once and see if it decreases your headaches". When she's suffering from one, she's desperate. She hates the pills that she's been prescribed and I can quote her during a headache saying that she'll do anything to make the headaches stop.
The one rap I HATE from her goes like this - "Stop all this talk about tripping. You're not a teenager anymore. You and your drugs.. give it up. We're old -that's for young people. We have kids and responsibilities, we can't be doing that shit". I wish there was a way to make her change her mind along those lines. I think that tripping adds something to my life that I don't ever want to give up and I hate to see her miss out on it.
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Re: My totally square wife dropping hints... [Re: Universe]
#18935136 - 10/05/13 08:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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mushrooms cash help one rationalize things that would be too clouded in emotion while sober tp make a truly unsubjective uninfluenced opinion, such as loosing a loved one or restating to ones self "who am I"
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