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InvisibleKatuXiK
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Potential cobweb
    #18933971 - 10/04/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There are spots of something growing in the dry verm layer on top my BRF jars, and I cannot for the life of me tell if they're cobweb or mycelium. It all appears to be very rhizo, growing out from the center and not in a total cluster fuck, but at the same time, the spots are so small; The growth pattern is far to minute to clearly see with the naked eye, and unfortunately my GS4's camera doesn't do the trick either. I also know for a fact that the water content in my jars is too high, they cracked and allowed extra water in, so $10 says the verm is probably moist. The growth appears to be white, but I'm still going to be the paranoid noob and post this.

Do I just let the jars continue to incubate, give an h202 spray before dunking, and hope for the best?


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Re: Potential cobweb [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18933979 - 10/04/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

need pics for anyone to give you a solid answer


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Re: Potential cobweb [Re: dirty]
    #18934003 - 10/04/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Just for the sake of exercising thought, lets suppose it is cobweb; 1 jar is at 95%, and the others around 75% (+/- 10%). What do I do with the given situation?

I'll take some pictures, but I'm sure they wont be a whole lot of help. Give me a sec to get them uploaded and what not.


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Re: Potential cobweb [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18934071 - 10/05/13 12:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Alright, here we are. Sorry that took forever, got a little into it and was examining my cakes with a flashlight app, sort of highlighted the mycelium growth and it looked really cool, sorta sketched me out with cobweb on my mind though...



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Re: Potential cobweb [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18935786 - 10/05/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:elmo: It may be mold or it may just be hard for the mycelium to break through in that certain spot because that's why everyone on here says to use half pint jars for BRF TEK. Also did you follow the recipe correctly 1cup brf 1 cup water 2 cups verm and add organic gypsum not listed on site for extra yield. Also what size holes did you use on your lids? It is a critical point aswell as using 3M "paper" micropore tape before pressure cooking helps from my experience! 1/8" to 1/16" is the required for BRF TEK this is the only method I do so cant tell you other ways. Hope this helps your for your future runs don't feel bad if you messed these up I currently lost a TON of jars due to not rinsing cakes porperly before and after dunking them.


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Re: Potential cobweb [Re: WC3TFT.Shrooms]
    #18935975 - 10/05/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

These are half pint's, they just are tall cause its the only ones I could find (didn't look hard cause I didn't know it mattered) and yes I followed the tek exactly. A big reason I was concerned was because the mycelium appeared to be darkening slightly in the spots of concern, but I'm positive that that was my fault for exposing them to too much light. I have a very bright lamp that sits outside my closet which doesn't have a door, and I wasn't doing anything to block the light. I just looked at them after having pushed my hanging (clean) clothes in front of the shelf they're on and also having the light off for 7 hours, and they're 100% brilliant white, and the potential cobweb looks 10x less intimidating because of it.

Also the holes are slightly smaller than 1/8" (1/8" nail, pushed in about 3/4 the way up the tip), looks pretty much like what I see in pictures for the PF tek. So far the only jar I have lost was one that showed no signs of growth, was badly cracked, and somewhat burnt.. but some of my 90% colonized jars have those same characteristics and are doing just fine, so that one may have been a bit more water logged or something.


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Re: Potential cobweb *DELETED* [Re: KatuXiK]
    #18938016 - 10/05/13 09:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Potential cobweb [Re: WC3TFT.Shrooms]
    #18938348 - 10/05/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know, it seems to me that after I've had the light on for a few hours, the jars that are receiving a lot of light appear to have slightly tinged mycelium, but when I wake up after it having been pitch black for 6-10 hours, they're all exactly the same.


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Re: Potential cobweb [Re: WC3TFT.Shrooms]
    #18939172 - 10/06/13 07:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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WC3TFT.Shrooms said:
Light and dark does't matter as I have colonized multiple jars underneath my bed and on an open shelf with indirect light, which is said to be best. I have only tested BRF Tek though and both methods work fine you probably see quicker results with indirect lighting.




It's been proven time and time again that a12 light/12 dark causes myc to colonize faster and fruit more plentiful, larger and meatier mushrooms. Light in the spectrum of 6500k is what is suggested, as it replicates natural light.


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Re: Potential cobweb [Re: Jimmyhunter1000]
    #18940823 - 10/06/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Pretty sure that all he was saying is that you don't need it, not that it's irrelevant.


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Re: Potential cobweb [Re: Jimmyhunter1000]
    #18940891 - 10/06/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

He clearly stated this line:

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WC3TFT.Shrooms said:
Light and dark does't matter as I have colonized multiple jars underneath my bed and on an open shelf with indirect light, which is said to be best.




Light and dark does matter. They don't NEED it, but if you want to have the best possible parameters then it's best to have it. Why you'd want less weight is beyond me.


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