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ID Please
    #18933727 - 10/04/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Habitat:
Growing in barkdust under fir trees.

Gills:
Gills, light pinkish.  See pic

Stem:
White, solid.  Smooth above and below veil.

Cap:
White and brown.  Up to 5 inches across for adults.

Spore print color:
Brown

Bruising:
No bruising color.



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Re: ID Please [Re: nathanjd51]
    #18933737 - 10/04/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Agaricus sp. Not entirely sure about species, but A. hondensis or A. moelleri are (poisonous) possibilities. What's the geographic area?


Edited by MycoMen (10/04/13 11:06 PM)


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Re: ID Please [Re: MycoMen]
    #18933762 - 10/04/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Beaverton, Oregon.


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Re: ID Please [Re: nathanjd51]
    #18933772 - 10/04/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Does it stain yellow at the base of the stipe when cut? Does it smell inky or phenolic?


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Re: ID Please [Re: MycoMen]
    #18933801 - 10/04/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The first one i cut at the base didn't turn yellow, but the edges of the cap do turn yellow.  I just cut another one further up the stem and it did turn faintly yellow, so probably agaricus xanthodermus or something similar.  They do have a bit of a smell, hard to describe but not a good smell.


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Re: ID Please [Re: MycoMen]
    #18933804 - 10/04/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They remind me of a. silvicola, and the area seems to match, although the dry, cracking top seems odd.

A smell analysis will help.


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Re: ID Please [Re: nathanjd51]
    #18933814 - 10/04/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

nathanjd51 said:
The first one i cut at the base didn't turn yellow, but the edges of the cap do turn yellow.  I just cut another one further up the stem and it did turn faintly yellow, so probably agaricus xanthodermus or something similar.  They do have a bit of a smell, hard to describe but not a good smell.




Still unsure about species, but an Agaricus that stains yellow and smells weird should not be eaten, those are the telltale signs of poisonous Agaricus spp.


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Re: ID Please [Re: nathanjd51]
    #18933819 - 10/04/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

nathanjd51 said:
not a good smell.




Well, that's not goood.


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Re: ID Please [Re: cameal]
    #18933832 - 10/04/13 11:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

'phenolic' smells musky, kind of sweet, and almost like paint thinner. That's the most common 'not good' smell.

there is also a "sickly sweet" smell that is a negative indicator.

then there is nutty, almondy, chocolatey, anisey, mushroomy, and pleasantly sweet.

Once in awhile agaricus species smell fishy, but that's usually after they've dried out and then gotten wet again.

OP: Do any of these descriptors match what you're smelling?

A. augustus and A. silvicola often show yellow staining, although not the same chrome-yellow of an agaricus like campestris, for example.


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Re: ID Please [Re: jet li]
    #18933852 - 10/04/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks all.  I don't think I'll be eating these.  Thats ok, I found a number of beautiful a. subrufescens (or a. augustus) which will be breakfast.

Thanks again, I really appreciate this forum.


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Re: ID Please [Re: nathanjd51]
    #18933858 - 10/04/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Not sure how to describe the smell.  It is faint but almost a chemical smell if that means anything.


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Re: ID Please [Re: nathanjd51]
    #18933873 - 10/04/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Phenolic.


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Re: ID Please [Re: nathanjd51]
    #18933879 - 10/04/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, 'chemical' is basically like phenolic. Still don't buy that these are xanthodermus, though...

Every time I have found a. moelleri they have had a distinctly darker colouring in the centre of the cap - like a nipple. I've never found a confirmed hondensis, but I think it's got a similar colour balance.

Either way, better to follow your nose to the inviting almond-scented mushrooms you've picked instead. Enjoy your breakfast!


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