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Gypsyrose91
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Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms?
#18932630 - 10/04/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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SWIM has some questions and concerns she asked me to post for her? SWIM has tripped on shrooms maybe 5-6 times. The most she has gotten was a level 3. Last night she at 25g wet in a pb and j, same as her friends. They tripped balls, but she didn't trip at all. She says she felt something in the middle of her forehead kind of vibrate and felt a slight interconnectedness with everything but really and truly felt sober and pretty bummed/left out. The time she tripped before, she ate 3.5g dry and was pretty gone on a high level 3, borderline 4, but she says it was weird because she can't remember it. She would feel a wave coming, then zone out pretty hard. She says it felt like her mind kind of flat lined, as in she wasn't thinking at all. So basically, she wants to know why she she didn't trip last night and her buddies did, taking the same amount? Maybe she wasn't meant to? And why would she not be able to remember her previous trip? She says it's been about almost 2 months months in between, so she doesn't believe tolerance to be an issue. She also takes no prescription medications.
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Vsnares.Zappa
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: Gypsyrose91]
#18932637 - 10/04/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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edit*
take more next time and put the ganja away , my advice
Edited by Vsnares.Zappa (10/04/13 06:48 PM)
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Gypsyrose91
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: Vsnares.Zappa]
#18932730 - 10/04/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Vsnares.Zappa said: edit*
take more next time and put the ganja away , my advice

No ganja involved in the trip she can't remember. She says she had 1 puff for nausea after imbibing her sandwich last night but that was it.
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: Gypsyrose91] 1
#18932789 - 10/04/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because SWIM is really you and mushrooms dont like people who call themselves "swim"
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: FruitOfLife]
#18932834 - 10/04/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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what the hell is this SWIM bullshit? If the OP had spend even 5 minutes looking around the forum, he would see that everyone's open about their drug taking.
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: barong]
#18932917 - 10/04/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Someone Who Isn't Me. And *she* apparently.
If you don't feel like you're on the right track by 45 minutes you can always redose next time. Sometimes it just wasn't meant to be
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Gypsyrose91
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: barong]
#18932929 - 10/04/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow, guys. Really damn mature and a wonderful welcome to the site. I have been reading this site for a little over a year. Please do not presume to know what I have and have not done. That, sir or madame, is the real bullshit. I did not know it was against the rules to use the acronym on the internet, let alone this site. That was merely the only way I felt comfortable posting. Jesus, think first before you attack, man. Totally not cool. Tboth of you. This is an awful way to treat someone new to the site, new to drugs or whatever. I had a genuine concern and felt I could come to the community somehow and that was how I felt comfortable doing it. Was a matter of peraonal choice and yes, I've seen it used here before. Shame on you.
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Gypsyrose91
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: DeeBee]
#18932936 - 10/04/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DeeBee, Thank you for your helpfulness. I was always told redosing wouldn't do anything. Just take more if you havent come up in an hr?
Edited by Gypsyrose91 (10/04/13 08:03 PM)
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barong
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: Gypsyrose91]
#18932941 - 10/04/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Awwwwwwwwwww, baby been butthurt.
SO who took the drugs, SWIM or you?
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Gypsyrose91
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: barong]
#18932956 - 10/04/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not butthurt, just disappointed that the shroomery community would choose to greet someone that way. Leaves a wonderful impression on a person. Why do you ask? If you read my reply, you'd have your answer. It was the only way "I" felt comfortable coming to anyone was to use the acronym. Not hard to grasp, I thought.
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Gypsyrose91
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: Gypsyrose91]
#18932975 - 10/04/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would have taken a simple, " don't use swim, please." Or someothing like that much better than a personal attack. Do you have any advice as to my questions? I would welcome your input if you have something helpful to say.
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: Gypsyrose91]
#18932979 - 10/04/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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25grams (wet) is not that much. I couldn't really trip out on that amount either.
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Gypsyrose91
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: mpd]
#18932988 - 10/04/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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mpd said: 25grams (wet) is not that much. I couldn't really trip out on that amount either. 
Hmm makes sense. So would it be like a threshold dose? Those are typically up to 1.5ish g right? My pupils got big, but that was it lol.
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Vsnares.Zappa
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: Gypsyrose91]
#18932994 - 10/04/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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There' is an incredibly huge ammount of information capable of answering your questions on the site, maybe you asked it in a bizarre way so you had bizarre responses...anyway, you said she ate a huge ammount of food before tripping ? I recommend to not eat anthing like 5 hours prior to trip, also you could also lemon tek ( let the shrooms sit in a glass of pure lemon juice)
the're are plenty of reasons that could explain, her mindset let alone could very well be a the base of it if you think about it, ''her'' being the only female in the group and feeling left out and presuming she wasnt feeling anything ...
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: Gypsyrose91]
#18933002 - 10/04/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maybe my tolerance is a tad higher than normal.
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: Gypsyrose91]
#18933010 - 10/04/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have heard somewhere that there is some enzyme or something that we create in our stomachs that binds with the psilocin and some people don't create enough of it to metabolize the active... the remedy we always thought was an MAOI inhibitor like st johns wort or good chocolate... I dont know where i heard this and if anyone does know I would appreciate any clarification
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Gypsyrose91
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: wildabeast]
#18933017 - 10/04/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have used st johns and vit c before but didn't have any the last 2 times. Definitely will be taking them next time.
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: mpd]
#18933032 - 10/04/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Btw, welcome to the shroomery! Oh yeah, redosing is definitely effective. It's kind of a finesse thing whether you want a trip intensity boost or a longer peak. If you aren't feeling em you should redose within the first hour.
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Cervantes said: Should I redose, and if so, when is the best time to redose?
By TripMeister (edited by Cervantes)
By all means, YES, redosing WORKS! However, redosing must be done before tollerance sets in, if it is to be most effective.
Forget everything you've been told about building an "instant tolerance" when the shrooms take efffect. Tolerance takes a little while to set in. Take a second dose of equal or greater (or even less) value, 1-2 hours after you take your first dose. You can even take a third dose 3-4 hours after the first but by then, you will likely notice tollerance setting in.
Be sure to redose BEFORE or DURING your peak (which may or may not be hard to remember to do... depending on the intensity of your trip). If you redose after you peak, tollerance will start setting in, and unless you take considerably more shrooms than you did for your first dose, you likely won't ever climb back to the heights of your first peak.
If you like 3-6+ hour peaks on shrooms, try redosing, it works especially well with medium to large doses.
For example, (since TripMeister and Cervantes have quite a bit of experience with redosing) start with your usual dose, (TripMeister's is 5 grams, Cervantes' is 3.5g) then 1:45 after that, take the same dose +1 gram (so 6 for TM, 4 for Cerv) then, 1:30 later take the previous dose amount +1-2 grams (so 7-8 for TM... Cervantes hasn't tripple dosed... yet). It works great, but three doses seems to be the maximum you can do. After that, tolerance is at nearly 100%.
Three doses will let you peak for over 6 hours. It's also interesting to do different strains at each dose and watch how the trip's characteristics change.
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Gypsyrose91
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: Vsnares.Zappa]
#18933041 - 10/04/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Vsnares.Zappa said: There' is an incredibly huge ammount of information capable of answering your questions on the site, maybe you asked it in a bizarre way so you had bizarre responses...anyway, you said she ate a huge ammount of food before tripping ? I recommend to not eat anthing like 5 hours prior to trip, also you could also lemon tek ( let the shrooms sit in a glass of pure lemon juice)
the're are plenty of reasons that could explain, her mindset let alone could very well be a the base of it if you think about it, ''her'' being the only female in the group and feeling left out and presuming she wasnt feeling anything ...

No no food before trip. I fast before the shrooms. Only food was the sandwich containing the goodies. I wasn't only female. So for tek you soak them in the juice then throw shrooms and juice back? Or strain like tea?
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Gypsyrose91
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: DeeBee]
#18933047 - 10/04/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DeeBee said: Btw, welcome to the shroomery! Oh yeah, redosing is definitely effective. It's kind of a finesse thing whether you want a trip intensity boost or a longer peak. If you aren't feeling em you should redose within the first hour.
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Cervantes said: Should I redose, and if so, when is the best time to redose?
By TripMeister (edited by Cervantes)
By all means, YES, redosing WORKS! However, redosing must be done before tollerance sets in, if it is to be most effective.
Forget everything you've been told about building an "instant tolerance" when the shrooms take efffect. Tolerance takes a little while to set in. Take a second dose of equal or greater (or even less) value, 1-2 hours after you take your first dose. You can even take a third dose 3-4 hours after the first but by then, you will likely notice tollerance setting in.
Be sure to redose BEFORE or DURING your peak (which may or may not be hard to remember to do... depending on the intensity of your trip). If you redose after you peak, tollerance will start setting in, and unless you take considerably more shrooms than you did for your first dose, you likely won't ever climb back to the heights of your first peak.
If you like 3-6+ hour peaks on shrooms, try redosing, it works especially well with medium to large doses.
For example, (since TripMeister and Cervantes have quite a bit of experience with redosing) start with your usual dose, (TripMeister's is 5 grams, Cervantes' is 3.5g) then 1:45 after that, take the same dose +1 gram (so 6 for TM, 4 for Cerv) then, 1:30 later take the previous dose amount +1-2 grams (so 7-8 for TM... Cervantes hasn't tripple dosed... yet). It works great, but three doses seems to be the maximum you can do. After that, tolerance is at nearly 100%.
Three doses will let you peak for over 6 hours. It's also interesting to do different strains at each dose and watch how the trip's characteristics change.
Thanks so much for the info! Had no idea! Will definitely experiment with this sometime.
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Gypsyrose91
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: mpd]
#18933052 - 10/04/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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mpd said: Maybe my tolerance is a tad higher than normal.
Wondered this myself, too.
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: Gypsyrose91]
#18933078 - 10/04/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9279397/fpart/1/vc/1
Search function my friend. It will save you alot of grief from people on here.
Edited by DeeBee (10/04/13 08:34 PM)
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: DeeBee]
#18933413 - 10/04/13 09:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not tripping....
1) tolerance.... Took mushrooms or LSD in the last week 2) drug influence.... Legal or illegal drugs interfering with trip 3) didn't take enough.. Low dose or bad scale 4) weak mushrooms or not right mushroom 5) full stomach... Slows digestion and uptake 6) natural tolerance 7) combination of the above 8) barfed them up
The swim stick is silly ... Take the crap they have you and get over it... Wasnt as rude as it could have been... My advice is try to Be thicker skinned... If you had not made a big deal about it, in a few days no one would have remembered even ...
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: Gypsyrose91]
#18937117 - 10/05/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, welcome!
Sometimes expectations seem to interfere with a trip. I have had my share if dud trips on good shrooms. It usually happens when I try too hard to trip instead of just going for the ride.
Don't worry about the SWIM stuff. People here give newbies tough love. They want to make sure a new member is thick skinned and mature enough to talk about tripping and whatnot. It gets better quickly, especially if you make interesting posts and learn to use the search engine on this site... so you are not asking the same question that has been asked 1000 times before.
Anyway, good luck in the future and sorry about the bumpy response you got in this thread.
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Re: Why didn't SWIM trip on mushrooms? [Re: Rose]
#18941604 - 10/06/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah definately fast before a shroom trip, it works better.
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