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MycoMen
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Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?)
#18932151 - 10/04/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey there,
Found a sizeable amount of these today (3 oz fresh) in South-Eastern King County, WA (near Seattle, West of the Cascades). They're definitely an active Psilocybe (typical dark purple spore print, blue bruising, separable pellicle on cap), but I'm not sure what species. Leaning towards P. stuntzii, but I'd appreciate a definitive identification (especially considering the absence of an annulus). They were growing on a semi-maintained lawn next to, but not on a patch of wood chips.
Thanks,
MycoMen
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HarryL
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: MycoMen]
#18932170 - 10/04/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Look a like Baeos or cyanofibrillosa to me but wait for more experience folks
Nice find! Gotta love it
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Edited by HarryL (10/04/13 05:15 PM)
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rev0kadavur
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: HarryL]
#18932253 - 10/04/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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psilocybe azurescens?
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happyfunguy
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: rev0kadavur]
#18932270 - 10/04/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cyanofibrillosa would be my guess.
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Joust
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: happyfunguy]
#18932691 - 10/04/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Psilocybe baeocystis for sure.
-------------------- ~~~~~~***Psilocybin Mushrooms***~~~~~~ _________A Practical Guide To Psilocybin Mushrooms_________ "Think about the species, not your scale". -NeoSporen "Mr. Joust, I see you don't actually partake in the psilocin, but it looks like it may partake in you!" -Gojira
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happyfunguy
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: Joust]
#18932713 - 10/04/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The coloring made think baeo at first but I didn't realize they could be that pointy.
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Blue-FunGuy
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: Joust]
#18932720 - 10/04/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Joust said: Psilocybe baeocystis for sure.
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MycoMen
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#18932752 - 10/04/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Blue-FunGuy
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: MycoMen]
#18932764 - 10/04/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They are over twice as potent than stuntzii.
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: Joust]
#18932782 - 10/04/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Joust said: Psilocybe baeocystis for sure.
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happyfunguy
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: MycoMen]
#18932792 - 10/04/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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from what I've experienced, baeocystin breaks down rather quickly so eat 'em quick, don't dry 'em. (other people who know better than me, please feel free to correct if I'm off base here.)
edit to add: not that they wouldn't work, just some of the magic would be lessened.
Edited by happyfunguy (10/04/13 07:25 PM)
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jet li
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: happyfunguy]
#18932807 - 10/04/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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happy funguy. Yes nor-baeocystin breaks down when they dry. I would still dry them and/or make tea, because I don't like bugs.
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MycoMen
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#18933058 - 10/04/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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kcrocker802
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: MycoMen]
#18933090 - 10/04/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Habitat shots please!!!! I am trying to figure out what to look out for!
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MycoMen
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: kcrocker802]
#18933107 - 10/04/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't have any habitat shots, but they were growing on an old and not terribly well-maintained lawn just next to an area that had wood chips for landscaping.
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HarryL
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: MycoMen]
#18933467 - 10/04/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Have heard it said baeos loose like 80% potency upon drying
Believe it's documented somewhere.... Mushroom John-
http://www.mushroomjohn.org/guidetext9.htm
-------------------- Mushroom hunting: One bad mushroom can ruin your day! Know it or throw it.
Edited by HarryL (10/04/13 10:13 PM)
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happyfunguy
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: MycoMen]
#18933497 - 10/04/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
MycoMen said: There's no way I'm gonna eat 90 grams of fresh baeos, so some of them are gonna be dried. Will be interesting to compare, actually - the things we go through for science. 
Tea instead maybe?
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jet li
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: happyfunguy]
#18933539 - 10/04/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I had more mellow fun time when I dried and made tea from P. baeocystis. I tried them fresh once and had a really crazy scary trip, but glad I did it, just don't think I ever will again. I don't think you're going to like the raw trip. Be prepared to shit your pants, while crying all alone in the universe.
P.S. not literally shit pants. I never shat my pants. I came out of the womb wearing wranglers......which were honestly a little baggy, so it sorta looked like i'd pooped.
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Joust
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: HarryL]
#18933558 - 10/04/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
HarryL said: Have heard it said baeos loose like 80% potency upon drying
Believe it's documented somewhere.... Mushroom John-
http://www.mushroomjohn.org/guidetext9.htm
I wouldnt believe much of anything when it comes to alkaloidal concentrations without proper paperwork haha. No offense to MJ, just making sure everything is based on hard collected data There is a lot of false data on specifics.
Are Baeos potent? Yes Does baeocystin break down fast? yes Are you loosing most potency when drying? Probably not "most" id say half at most. Is it going to be different from otehr mushies? When taken fresh most surely!
-------------------- ~~~~~~***Psilocybin Mushrooms***~~~~~~ _________A Practical Guide To Psilocybin Mushrooms_________ "Think about the species, not your scale". -NeoSporen "Mr. Joust, I see you don't actually partake in the psilocin, but it looks like it may partake in you!" -Gojira
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kcrocker802
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Re: Psilocybe sp. (stuntzii?) [Re: MycoMen]
#18934414 - 10/05/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cool. I guess I will just look in all lawns that are somewhat maintained.
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