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Amanita Muscaria help!
    #18931161 - 10/04/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hi guys!
I went for a long walk today and found what I think are Panaeolus Cinctulus but thats a story for another thread ..
What has me so excited and childish is Amanita Muscaria!
I found about 8 or 9 growing in a golf coarse.. I only picked one
They are so God dam beautiful to see!
Some mature ones looking majestic among the cute little chubby yellow young fellas. There were golfers across the way so I had to quickly grab one!

I am a bit nervous about ingesting it, but i think a low dose will do the trick and let me get to terms with how it affects me.
Does anyone have any good methods of eating this?
i would like to make a tea preferably, or cut the cap into segments and eat one at a time ..slowly.
But if I should make a tea will i dry it out?
i read that an hour in the oven on low heat will dry it out.. is that necessary? Could I use the fresh cap to make a tea?

I have to many questions!
If you guys could tell me your easiest and or preferred method of preparation that would be awesome!
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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: 8itlove]
    #18931187 - 10/04/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



Pics wouldnt add for some reason!!
Here they are tho! :smile:


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: 8itlove]
    #18931196 - 10/04/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You got em! I hear pan frying up to a half a cap is the way to go for a first time. Any way you go about it, you want to decarboxylate the ibotenic acid into muscimol. Heat or desiccation (thorough drying) will both work. Consuming it fresh is not recommended.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: 8itlove] * 1
    #18931203 - 10/04/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You can pan fry em with some butter and garlic and they taste pretty good that way.
I suppose making a tea would probably work too as long as the toxic ibotenic acid is converted into muscimol trough the heating process.
Expect some nausea when consuming muscaria.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: 8itlove]
    #18931212 - 10/04/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I personally have never tried.. I see them all the time but the risks have made it easy to resist....

Are you wanting to eat them to trip out? or for gourmet interets?

I have a pair of friends who boil them a certain way to render the toxins out so that they can just enjoy eating them for dinner.... from what they have said they are very tasty.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: rev0kadavur]
    #18931230 - 10/04/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: rev0kadavur]
    #18931314 - 10/04/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I would like to trip out  :awesomenod:
I love the idea of falling asleep after ingesting it and pretty much waking in to a trip, I want to see what this amazing thing has to offer.. I am also terrified of consuming with all the taboo around it, but hey .. only one way to find out whats up! :smile:

I think I will dry it out, then use half the cap in two quarters for my first time. Thanks for the info guys it was quick!
i love the sound of frying it in butter :crazy2: Im torn between that and making tea with half a cap.. is the stem usable?
Should I fast before taking it.. or is that necessary?
Im unsure about taking it night or day aswell? Id like to go for a walk and be completely alone, but at the same time its going to make me sleep!


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: 8itlove]
    #18931341 - 10/04/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I tried it three times half a cap of Guessowii each time, I just fell asleep and just remember feeling really good while I was sleeping and had cool dreams. Ate it dried a couple of times and also tasted it freshly fried... Really tasty !! I'd like to not fall asleep one of these times... Maybe guessowii is weaker then other variants though I'm not sure... I'm thinking about eating a full cap next time.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: The chimp]
    #18931471 - 10/04/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Cool!:awesome:
Guessowii is a variation ...ok SWEET! I am pretty sure I found Guessowii here to, they were growing on a slightly marshy slope next to some Mutinus Elegans.. i knew it was an Amanita mushroom but I couldn't I.D it because every description only brought up fly agaric.

Sounds really cool man, i want to sleep and wake up in my dream!
I think sleeping is a big part of the trip tho man, i read that you shouldn't try an stay awake just let yourself fall asleep!

Do you think I could dry it by leaving it behind my computer and let the fan dry it out?.. ah doesn't matter il oven in on a low heat!

It smells almost as beautiful as it looks, i cant wait to taste it!


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: 8itlove] * 1
    #18931530 - 10/04/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They taste gross dried from what I read.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: 8itlove] * 1
    #18931535 - 10/04/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Unlike psilocybin-mushrooms, you should dry this one at high temperature. I sometimes ate some fried in a pan. Depending on the region they have different chemotypes throughout europe, and those that grew in the forests near my parents home just didn´t seem to contain much poison. I ate lots of it, never had a real trip. But they are so delicious, one of the best mushrooms you can find. dried they taste like salty spicy crisps.

However, what I wanted to say: dosage is a very uncertain issue with these. better pick many of them, dry and grind them, so you have a lot of powder with all the same content of the evil substance, then start with a small dose for the first experiment, an increased dose for the second and so on... you never know if you´ve perhaps picked an especially strong one.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: Rauhfasertapete]
    #18931629 - 10/04/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't own a camera, I would love to get a pic of them in there habitat for you guys! Il try my best!  :grin:
There was a good patch, a couple of young ones and some mature ones and I picked a teenager by the look of it haha.
I will dry it in the oven tonight and make a tea or soup maybe tomorrow.

I will use half a cap first and see how it goes, if the potency is an issue il go back when some of the younger ones have grown up and il get two or three mature guys and dry and grind them! :dancer:


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
    #18931689 - 10/04/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Expect some nausea when consuming muscaria.




:uhoh: I cant stand nausea, but ill wade my way through it!


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
    #18960108 - 10/10/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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They taste gross dried from what I read.




They really do man ...  :argh:
Had a nibble of it and then ended up crushing it and making tea..

Im going to take your suggestion and use it, im frying one in butter and il have it with a meal!

There are so many of them in that spot its overwhelming haha.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: 8itlove]
    #18960280 - 10/10/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Guessowii is a variation ...ok SWEET! I am pretty sure I found Guessowii here to, they were growing on a slightly marshy slope next to some Mutinus Elegans..



Nah. That's an American varient, and is yellow.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: 8itlove]
    #18960517 - 10/10/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They are very tasty fried. Make sure you cook them long enough to get some browning :super:


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: o8u]
    #18980198 - 10/15/13 06:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Had a God awful experience last night with 7 grams of dried Amanita Muscaria that I got from an online vendor last night...

Just extremely dissociative and scary...
Things were blurred, my depth perception was retarded.. went to put a glass of water on the table and completely missed haha.

I felt extreme power as I walked in the moonlight tho... that was nice.
But the bad overtakes the good for me.. I puked up a lung and fell asleep and had dreams about pulling out my teeth and there was jizz in my bong.. I dont even know.

Im gonna stick to Psilocybin from now on.
Im greatful for the experience even tho it was fairly harrowing.

Good old psilocybin ... the colors the comfort the love and strong appreciation for life and nature.
Psilocybin mushrooms are the mushrooms for me.

Thanks for all the advice and info guys.
Greatly appreciated!  :kiss:


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: 8itlove]
    #18980472 - 10/15/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Had a God awful experience last night with 7 grams of dried Amanita Muscaria that I got from an online vendor last night...

Just extremely dissociative and scary...
Things were blurred, my depth perception was retarded.. went to put a glass of water on the table and completely missed haha.

I felt extreme power as I walked in the moonlight tho... that was nice.
But the bad overtakes the good for me.. I puked up a lung and fell asleep and had dreams about pulling out my teeth and there was jizz in my bong.. I dont even know.

Im gonna stick to Psilocybin from now on.
Im greatful for the experience even tho it was fairly harrowing.

Good old psilocybin ... the colors the comfort the love and strong appreciation for life and nature.
Psilocybin mushrooms are the mushrooms for me.

Thanks for all the advice and info guys.
Greatly appreciated!  :kiss:





O my!

I had a weird experience on muscaria the other day.  I ate three dried caps of amanita muscaria var persicina.  I don't remember much except for a crazy dream where I was picking people up with a robotic arm(the type used to pick up stuffed aninals at an arcade) dropping them into holes, and then filling it with cement. 

When I woke up the next morning, I couldn't find my paycheck or medicine. My wife claims that I was running around outside for a while with a shovel. I'm guessing my stuff is buried somewhere in the yard.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: DCart]
    #18980489 - 10/15/13 08:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: 8itlove]
    #18980491 - 10/15/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

replace the puking that night with a full day of diarrhea the next while being dragged around hardware and pet stores by deranged, sadistic friends and that's about how my worst experience of A. muscaria went as well.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: jet li]
    #18980492 - 10/15/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Amanita was used by Berzerker Norse warriors, to enter the state berzerkism.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: jet li]
    #18980567 - 10/15/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I love hearing about Amanita Muscaria trips. I have been consuming Amanita Muscaria for many years and I can tell you that the experience can be pleasant if the mushroom is sun dried for a couple days, then made into a tea (do not boil). I have always used around 3 sun dried caps for a batch of tea and that batch can be shared by 3.

I have never had any horrific experiences or vomiting... nausea and  confusion, yes, but otherwise I have always somewhat enjoyed the milder more drunken like intoxication from Amanita Muscaria.

Definitely not a replacement for psilocybin, but not a bad alternative once in a while. Amanita Muscaria is a mixed bag, some like it and some don't. I have friends who are total acid heads, that won't touch Amanita Muscaria, lol.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: DCart]
    #18982631 - 10/15/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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8itlove said:
Had a God awful experience last night with 7 grams of dried Amanita Muscaria that I got from an online vendor last night...

Just extremely dissociative and scary...
Things were blurred, my depth perception was retarded.. went to put a glass of water on the table and completely missed haha.

I felt extreme power as I walked in the moonlight tho... that was nice.
But the bad overtakes the good for me.. I puked up a lung and fell asleep and had dreams about pulling out my teeth and there was jizz in my bong.. I dont even know.

Im gonna stick to Psilocybin from now on.
Im greatful for the experience even tho it was fairly harrowing.

Good old psilocybin ... the colors the comfort the love and strong appreciation for life and nature.
Psilocybin mushrooms are the mushrooms for me.

Thanks for all the advice and info guys.
Greatly appreciated!  :kiss:





O my!

I had a weird experience on muscaria the other day.  I ate three dried caps of amanita muscaria var persicina.  I don't remember much except for a crazy dream where I was picking people up with a robotic arm(the type used to pick up stuffed aninals at an arcade) dropping them into holes, and then filling it with cement. 

When I woke up the next morning, I couldn't find my paycheck or medicine. My wife claims that I was running around outside for a while with a shovel. I'm guessing my stuff is buried somewhere in the yard.



:laugh2:
Dude,that is f**cking hilarius!


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
    #18982705 - 10/15/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

damn...im making some persicina tea right now.. better hide the gardening tools :rofl2:


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
    #18983944 - 10/15/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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DCart said:
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8itlove said:
Had a God awful experience last night with 7 grams of dried Amanita Muscaria that I got from an online vendor last night...

Just extremely dissociative and scary...
Things were blurred, my depth perception was retarded.. went to put a glass of water on the table and completely missed haha.

I felt extreme power as I walked in the moonlight tho... that was nice.
But the bad overtakes the good for me.. I puked up a lung and fell asleep and had dreams about pulling out my teeth and there was jizz in my bong.. I dont even know.

Im gonna stick to Psilocybin from now on.
Im greatful for the experience even tho it was fairly harrowing.

Good old psilocybin ... the colors the comfort the love and strong appreciation for life and nature.
Psilocybin mushrooms are the mushrooms for me.

Thanks for all the advice and info guys.
Greatly appreciated!  :kiss:





O my!

I had a weird experience on muscaria the other day.  I ate three dried caps of amanita muscaria var persicina.  I don't remember much except for a crazy dream where I was picking people up with a robotic arm(the type used to pick up stuffed aninals at an arcade) dropping them into holes, and then filling it with cement. 

When I woke up the next morning, I couldn't find my paycheck or medicine. My wife claims that I was running around outside for a while with a shovel. I'm guessing my stuff is buried somewhere in the yard.



:laugh2:
Dude,that is f**cking hilarius!





:laugh: I was a little upset when I woke up and all my stuff was missing, but when my wife told me what happened, I started laughing and let it go.  Laughter is the best medicine, after all. :rofl2:


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: DCart]
    #18983949 - 10/15/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Dude.  Now I want to "trip" on Fly Agaric.


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    #18983970 - 10/15/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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8itlove said:
Had a God awful experience last night with 7 grams of dried Amanita Muscaria that I got from an online vendor last night...

Just extremely dissociative and scary...
Things were blurred, my depth perception was retarded.. went to put a glass of water on the table and completely missed haha.

I felt extreme power as I walked in the moonlight tho... that was nice.
But the bad overtakes the good for me.. I puked up a lung and fell asleep and had dreams about pulling out my teeth and there was jizz in my bong.. I dont even know.

Im gonna stick to Psilocybin from now on.
Im greatful for the experience even tho it was fairly harrowing.

Good old psilocybin ... the colors the comfort the love and strong appreciation for life and nature.
Psilocybin mushrooms are the mushrooms for me.

Thanks for all the advice and info guys.
Greatly appreciated!  :kiss:





O my!

I had a weird experience on muscaria the other day.  I ate three dried caps of amanita muscaria var persicina.  I don't remember much except for a crazy dream where I was picking people up with a robotic arm(the type used to pick up stuffed aninals at an arcade) dropping them into holes, and then filling it with cement. 

When I woke up the next morning, I couldn't find my paycheck or medicine. My wife claims that I was running around outside for a while with a shovel. I'm guessing my stuff is buried somewhere in the yard.



:laugh2:
Dude,that is f**cking hilarius!





:laugh: I was a little upset when I woke up and all my stuff was missing, but when my wife told me what happened, I started laughing and let it go.  Laughter is the best medicine, after all. :rofl2:





OMG. I am going to tell this to others. :curbyourenthusiasm:

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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: jet li]
    #18984020 - 10/15/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Dude.  Now I want to "trip" on Fly Agaric.




I actually like it.  I never got sick from it, or felt the least bit nauseous.  I started with small amounts and slowly added a little bit more each time.  "The digging incedent" was the most that I have eaten.  Still no nausea. I probably won't eat that much again for a while, but certainly worth experiencing.


I put fresh caps in a dehydrator and let them get cracker dry. Before consumption, I make it in a tea or cook it in eggs.


Ganzig- :smile: yes, thank goodness for my wife! If she hadn't been around, I'd never know the truth. It was pretty damn funny when she told me. "I think you buried it" with the eyes that say: yeah that happened. I started cracking up.  I don't share many trip reports, but this one was worthy.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria help! [Re: DCart]
    #18984958 - 10/16/13 06:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:lmafo: That is too funny!!
Your making me want to try it again, I think ill wait till I am a bit more experienced with psilocybin.. I know they are completely different but I need more experience with tripping in general before I get to these guys.
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