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krypto2000
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All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar...
#18930177 - 10/04/13 08:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've seen bugs grow in the jars before, but not quite like this. I have a jar which I did a g2g transfer on and it colonized in about a week except for a couple of spots which appear to be a bacterial contamination so I just shelved it and hadn't opened the jar since. This is maybe 7-10 days after that. I've been checking it from time to time as it seems to slowly be encroaching on the bacteria, I suspect maybe the bacteria will, at least eventually, die of arbitration, whether it be lack of oxygen as it's trapped, or it will simply eat the food sources it has and then die from a lack of food. Maybe that will take a long time, but I don't need the jar so I figured it doesn't hurt to shelve it to see what happens. Anyway this morning I wokeup to see a small fly roaming around the surface of the mycilium, which keep in mind has been fully colonized for at least a week now.
I just thought this was interesting. I've had things grow, but it's quite rare, and certainly never this late into the mycilial growth. Any idea how this thing could have survived the PC and, well.. what do you think is going on? Was his larvae somehow in the grains and then he just fed on the mycilia maybe and crawled his way out? Just seems quite odd. I wonder what will happen if I leave him in there? The top is fully colonized like I said, for the health of the jar would it be a good idea to just open the lid, let the fly out, and replace with fresh air? It is fully colonized besides the bacteria spots, and I do know it can be a good thing to 'pour off' the built up CO2, since it's fully colonized though you think it'd be ok to just open the jar for a minute and close it back up? I wouldn't think it'd necessarily trigger pinning, but even if it does I wouldn't mind just fruiting it in the jar.
Edited by krypto2000 (10/04/13 08:54 AM)
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: krypto2000]
#18930214 - 10/04/13 09:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm sure you gone dun fucked up somewhere mang.
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: bodhisatta]
#18930225 - 10/04/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Probably, but it's still interesting. Maybe the mushroom just gave birth to a fly?
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: krypto2000]
#18930247 - 10/04/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You're posting all sorts of crazy experiments and hypotheses around here including coloring mushrooms with colored substrates(they're not plants) and beans as spawn and you cant figure out regular spawn? No fly larvae survived a PC cycle something is majorly fucked. You almost made me thing today was april first.
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (10/04/13 09:10 AM)
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: bodhisatta]
#18930277 - 10/04/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lmao, yah I'm trying some experimental jars, but this is not one of them. If you honestly believe it didn't survive the pressure cooking then where could it possibly have come from? It either had to survive the PCing, it flew through the glass, or there was some kind of emaculate conception going on inside of that jar. In all seriousness I'm open to all three possibilities, but it surviving PCing seems to be the most plausible explanation. Even if that were the case though it's still quite odd that it didn't show up earlier and could survive being surrounded by mycilia. Maybe the mycilia made a little pocket for it and incubated the larvae? Should I try to fruit flies?
edit: Now there are 3 flies in the jar...
Edited by krypto2000 (10/04/13 09:19 AM)
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: krypto2000]
#18930290 - 10/04/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you smoke too much and forgot something you did or this is a troll post.
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: bodhisatta]
#18930296 - 10/04/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What do you mean forgot something? Like maybe I opened the jar at some point and don't remember doing so? Not a troll post I promise. I've gotten bugs in my jars before, that's not what surprises me, it's jsut that they have never showed up after the mycilia colonizes everything.
Edited by krypto2000 (10/04/13 09:21 AM)
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: krypto2000]
#18930297 - 10/04/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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No like the other kind of forgetting
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: bodhisatta]
#18930302 - 10/04/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What do you mean, I'm confused. I feel like you're trolling now.
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: krypto2000]
#18930326 - 10/04/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I feel your trolling us.
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: dark3st]
#18930342 - 10/04/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why would I do that? Do you not believe there were flies in the jar? Either way I opened it up to let the flies out, dunking it in water, and am going to try to fruit from the jar by putting a plastic bag overtop.
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: krypto2000]
#18930394 - 10/04/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cool story bro.
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: bodhisatta]
#18930493 - 10/04/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: No like the other kind of forgetting
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: spacechildo]
#18930569 - 10/04/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's best to just walk away from this one. Don't feed it
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: bodhisatta]
#18930606 - 10/04/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you guys honestly not believe there were some flies in the jar? Why would I make that up?
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: krypto2000]
#18930616 - 10/04/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think there was flys in there because you fucked up somewhere. It did not survive the PC cycle and it didn't go through the glass. Maybe your lids are the biggest pieces of shit ever. Maybe you forgot something but forgetting is a hard concept for you I guess.
Maybe this is just troll and ^this^ is just food.
Who knows.
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: krypto2000]
#18930628 - 10/04/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Perhaps you'll die
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: bodhisatta]
#18930638 - 10/04/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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When I opened the jar to fruit it the rubber was not sealed so it is possible I opened it previously and have since forgot, I never denied that, but I don't remember opening it obviously so how can I say one way or the other? I know as much as you do as far as that is concerned, it's no reason to call me a troll. That's like an old person asking you for helping finding his glasses and you respond, 'You lose those all the time, you must be trolling' instead of helping him look for them.
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: krypto2000]
#18930658 - 10/04/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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In that case use your own deductive logic. It would have to have obviously been that the jar was left open somewhere after sterilization since it's obvious that a fly cant go through the jar and survive the PC.
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: bodhisatta]
#18930687 - 10/04/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Poor PC job...
I steam sterilize and NEVER had an issue with bugs or trolls.
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: bodhisatta]
#18930691 - 10/04/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bugs can survive the pressure cooker, I've had them grow before and have read other posts of them doing so as well so I know it's not just me, normally they'll show up within a week though and obviously as a result of an improper sterilization. Oddly everytime it's happened for me there has however been no signs of other contaminants, though of course I didn't keep the jars around long to truly confirm that.
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: krypto2000]
#18930714 - 10/04/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If bugs survive the PC then bacteria and mold surely always would too. The steam alone without pressure at 212F is going to denature enough proteins in every single bug(animal kingdom bugs) that it will not live. Let alone the PC which takes care of 99+% of bacterial endospores. You're using your pressure cooker wrong.
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: krypto2000]
#18930734 - 10/04/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: dark3st]
#18930774 - 10/04/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I haden't even seen that one. Look at the rating I left him there's links to his other bullshit too.
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: bodhisatta]
#18930784 - 10/04/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What exactly in that thread seems like BS?
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: krypto2000]
#18930790 - 10/04/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Did you read it?
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: dark3st]
#18930795 - 10/04/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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My own thread?
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: krypto2000]
#18930816 - 10/04/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you're using polyfil as a filter then maybe the bug came through the ge hole some how.
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: krypto2000]
#18930819 - 10/04/13 11:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: I'm not particularly questioning that fact, but laying blotter from liquid to me seems like saying you make cocaine by taking cocaine and then adding baking soda. Sure, that might be a step in the process of what you just put up your nose, but that has nothing to do with making cocaine. That would be the equivalent of taking a fresh mushroom, rolling it in vermiculite before drying it, and then saying you found a way to make the mushrooms more potent simply because it weighs more. All you're doing by that is throwing impurities in the product.
I think I figured this out. You need to get into rehab because you're on some shit.
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: bodhisatta]
#18930876 - 10/04/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Other than sagescruffy no one is actually offering constructive advice or information of any kind here. I'm using a siliconed felt filters on that particular jar btw so I doubt any bugs got in through that. At this point I'm thinking I must have opened the jar and simply forgot because as I mentioned the rubber seal was broken which typically does not happen.
Otherwise a lot of you are just coming in here, bashing me for sharing and seeking information, however naive such questions to you may seem, giving me bad ratings, insulting my ideas, offering no real advice of any kind, and ironically then proceeding to call *me* the troll. Go take a look in the mirror or take a minute of self reflection, you may be surprised what you see.
Asking seemingly stupid questions is often a path to quite intelligent answers. People called Einstein eccentric and literally told him he was crazy. I'm sure if Alexander Fleming asked on a forum what beneficial properties this blue-green mold growing in a petri might have a lot of people would likewise put no thought into calling him a troll. Don't be afraid to seek knowledge, no matter how stupid you may look in the process, this is how discoveries are made and the world advances.
Edited by krypto2000 (10/04/13 11:52 AM)
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: krypto2000]
#18930885 - 10/04/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks like you got a stalker OP
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Re: All of a sudden there is now a fly in my jar... [Re: krypto2000]
#18931171 - 10/04/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: Answers to your questions (had to look for them):
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krypto2000 said: I wonder what will happen if I leave him in there?
Probably keep flying around... or die. He's trapped in a jar for fucks sake.
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The top is fully colonized like I said, for the health of the jar would it be a good idea to just open the lid, let the fly out, and replace with fresh air?
It would be a good idea to toss the jar, fly or no fly because:
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It is fully colonized besides the bacteria spots
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since it's fully colonized though you think it'd be ok to just open the jar for a minute and close it back up?
Same answer. No.
I have to be honest, these questions are pretty damn strange bro, especially for someone who has been around as long as you. Please don't make the mods start keeping an eye on you.
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