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Re: I volunteered to teach religious education to fifth graders [Re: Deviate]
    #18923862 - 10/02/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You can say it's brainwashing but that is realy just your opinion.




brainwashing: subverting an individual's sense of control over their own thinking, behavior, emotions or decision making.

Sorry, not just an opinion. Presenting things as facts for which their is no evidence and not allowing opposite opinions nor discussion certainly qualifies.


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Re: I volunteered to teach religious education to fifth graders [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #18924575 - 10/03/13 05:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
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You can say it's brainwashing but that is realy just your opinion.




brainwashing: subverting an individual's sense of control over their own thinking, behavior, emotions or decision making.

Sorry, not just an opinion. Presenting things as facts for which their is no evidence and not allowing opposite opinions nor discussion certainly qualifies.




:awesomenod:

Twas "Indoctrination"?


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Re: I volunteered to teach religious education to fifth graders [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #18930044 - 10/04/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
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You can say it's brainwashing but that is realy just your opinion.




brainwashing: subverting an individual's sense of control over their own thinking, behavior, emotions or decision making.

Sorry, not just an opinion. Presenting things as facts for which their is no evidence and not allowing opposite opinions nor discussion certainly qualifies.




It's only in your opinion that I am doing that. Ironically, it appears you cannot distinguish between facts and opinions yourself.


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Re: I volunteered to teach religious education to fifth graders [Re: fivepointer]
    #18930062 - 10/04/13 08:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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fivepointer said:
I never base my assurance of salvation on how good my actions are.  I base my assurance on the knowledge of the truth of the gospel, the righteousness of Christ by imputation, the witness of the Spirit with my spirit.  While my actions are different then they were prior to conversion (now I have an changed heart), this is NOT a basis for assurance.  I know I am saved, no matter how "bad" I am at any given moment.  I do not rest in my works of goodness, but solely on Christ's righteousness.  The Catholic position mixes personal "goodness", effort, grace, sacraments, and tries to mung these together to somehow arrive at a righteousness that will justify.  This is justification by impartation, not by imputation.  It denies the very foundation of the faith, which is justification by imputation of perfect righteousness.

The official Catholic position on assurance is that assurance of salvation is a sin, it is the "sin of assumption".  How can one be thankful of salvation if they can never have any assurance of salvation?  Thankful for MAYBE having salvation??

Catholics fatally err when it come to understanding God's righteousness, and the basis for justification.  It is 'gospel' from the bowels of hell.




So in your opnion, what is the point of praying, studying the Bible?


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