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Offlinevito
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mist and fan schedule
    #18919232 - 10/02/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hey, what's up shroomery! Before I ask my ? I just wanted to say how helpful this site has been which is why this is my 1st post. Its not that I don't want to talk to you guys, just busy!:stoned:
OK my ? is I work long nights 11pm-11am (sux I know!) On my days off my sleep schedule is screwy so I won't  always get to mist and fan at the same times, my 12/12 light schedule is the same as my work hrs(off @ 11pm) On my days off though sometimes I might end up misting and fanning during lights out is this ok or should I try to mist and fan while lights are on? I just put 12 pf cakes In sgfc yesterday and can't wait to see some pins!!
Thanks for the help! I searched this with no luck


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Re: mist and fan schedule [Re: vito]
    #18919242 - 10/02/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It is ok to mist the cakes at anytime....day or night....


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Re: mist and fan schedule [Re: PussyFart]
    #18919401 - 10/02/13 01:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yea whenever you get the chance to go ahead & do it.
The more the merrier.


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Re: mist and fan schedule [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
    #18924656 - 10/03/13 06:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Appreciate it guys! I didn't think it would matter, Its my first time with mushies and I've not had any contams yet(knock on wood) and I wouldnt want to mess up something simple!
I have the cakes going and 3 trays of colonizing wbs spawned to damions coir tek 1:2. 1 is gona b a tray fruited in the sgfc and the other 2 are gona be dub tubs. Lol, trying a little of everything.
Next I have a fully colonized quart jar of wbs in the fridge till I can get a bigger syringe to do a glc
TL style. This shit is so cool, I was getting kinda bored with growing my greens and it's not time to start working on my fireworks for next year. I've been wanting to try my hand at some amateur mycology. I think the fruits of my labor are gona go VERY nice with my 4th of july show next year:mushroom2:


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FULL AUTOMATION WOULD HANDLE AERATION AND HUMIDIFICATION BETTER [Re: vito]
    #18929803 - 10/04/13 05:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Martha Versus Modular.  Misting and Fanning Versus Automation.

I believe there are sufficient references regarding the preference for a way of automating these tedious tasks.  Surely one would believe that various approaches would have been advanced by now offering plausible approaches to achieving automation in the modular Shotgun Tub system in respect of various multiples of individual units to be automated.

A cursory overview fails to present for me a clearly suitable solution.  Perhaps others may be able to refer to proposals they find effective for this.  In taking a moment today to again address the question for myself, I find nothing more appropriate to my tastes and intended purpose than an approach that would combine a couple of simple and readily available devices.  Surely this approach seems reasonable, provided that the theory does in practice meet the requirements of the intended purpose.

First, I would retain the aqua pump system used in the old Pods (a steady state system).  I had originally proposed bubblier stones in my single cake prototype and others have suggested wands in the bulk casing version -- but this only seems to me an adaptation of the original design and which was almost at once deemed unnecessary in actual application.  In truth, one but needs a t-valve and a circular length of tubing that encircles the tub with intermittently spaced holes to allow air to issue at intervals, as for humidification and air exchange, the fine bubbles of the diffusion wands were deemed unnecessary.  I use the tip of a soldering iron.  In respect of ventilation and convection current elements of the Shotgun Tub's design, the function of the aqua pump would be rendered intermittent by incorporating a standard timing mechanism for facilitating only the necessary exchange of air at periodic intervals, especially essential in the absence of artificial illumination where associated convection currents were originally envisioned as a significant factor to reduce the necessity of even more frequent manual fanning.  This was always a downside for me however; where many, like myself, may not require artificial lighting.

The remaining task of misting could, I think, be quite effectively undertaken by introducing yet another pet supply store related product; the MistKing, an adaptable automated misting system. 

http://www.mistking.com/home.php?cat=249

I did not feel it necessary to post a whole new thread to point out what might seem an obvious effective alternative solution to the downside of daily, periodic manual maintenance.  Rather, consider what I propose to try and if any apparent flaws in this system as conceived present to you, or if you have comments or suggestions, please respond here in this thread.

That's right.  In spite of increased yields afforded by the Shotgun Tub over the earlier steady state system (and while I very much appreciate the keen understanding which provided these great design improvements), as I have said before: I WANT IT TO BE AUTOMATED!

Automation was the single most outstanding feature that made the original old Pod great!  That's what is was designed for!


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Re: FULL AUTOMATION WOULD HANDLE AERATION AND HUMIDIFICATION BETTER *DELETED* [Re: jbbishop]
    #18929902 - 10/04/13 06:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: FULL AUTOMATION WOULD HANDLE AERATION AND HUMIDIFICATION BETTER [Re: OneiricOutlier]
    #18929995 - 10/04/13 07:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

OneiricOutlier said:
I have to agree with jbbishop. I would love to have an SGFC but due to privacy and time constraints, I needed something automated that could sit in a closet. That's why I'm basically just following the PMP tek, we'll see how it works out. I will be misting and fanning as often as I can (when I get home from class).

And vito, sounds like you have a good setup. Don't forget to post pics :cheers:




Everyone talks about privacy in their own residence... I can see privacy from windows but in your house? You're doing what is a felony in every state in the US in a house with someone who doesn't know about it. WTF is wrong with you, what a miserable asshole that would do that for either of these two reasons. Just to trip or to make money... You realize you must unintentionally hate whoever you need to keep this private from.


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Re: FULL AUTOMATION WOULD HANDLE AERATION AND HUMIDIFICATION BETTER [Re: jbbishop]
    #18930028 - 10/04/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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jbbishop said:
I believe there are sufficient references regarding the preference for a way of automating these tedious tasks.




There is nothing tedious about taking care of one's hobby.  The fan/mist times are when we carefully inspect our project for molds, pins, insects, and everything else which can ruin our day.

For the record, you're at least the 100,000th member to propose 'automated' terrariums, and all 100,000 previous attempts has failed. 

For the original poster working 12 hour days, I was gone 14 hours per day under similar circumstances when I designed the shotgun terrarium.  It's as close to automated as you're going to get with today's technology.  Transducers stop working when flooded with water, which happens within 24 hours after placing in a high humidity environment.

Also, it's best not to mist at night/dark period.  The lights cause a slight increase in temperature, thus a decrease in humidity.  Misting during the dark period causes the fruits to stay wet until the lights come on, a recipe for molds and bacteria blotch.

One more word for the thousandth time to careless people who think hiding a terrarium with air pumps, lights, fans, etc., in a closet is 'hiding' anything, you're playing games with your own safety.  Putting something like that in a closet calls attention to it.  You make your own worst fears come to life.  A terrarium should be on a shelf or table in the middle of the room in plain sight.  This way, the kit your grandma gave you for your birthday attracts no attention at all.
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Re: FULL AUTOMATION WOULD HANDLE AERATION AND HUMIDIFICATION BETTER *DELETED* [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18931873 - 10/04/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: FULL AUTOMATION WOULD HANDLE AERATION AND HUMIDIFICATION BETTER [Re: OneiricOutlier]
    #18934938 - 10/05/13 06:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I still don't believe any of that bs in there but yea ok. cool story bro. You don't have to justify yourself to me but what I wrote was more or less for you and any one else who comes here to read this.


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