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VirginiaGentleman
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What happened to VG? getting "busted"
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Edited by VirginiaGentleman (10/05/13 10:29 AM)
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Run
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jesus christ man I dont even feel safe talking too you. how the fuck did you get ur crib raided
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PussyFart
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Sorry to say you will most likely never see your firearms again....
Did you have anything active or was it all medicinal/edible?
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You seem a little screwed honestly. They can nab ya on a few things there Man best i can say is get a good lawyer
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VirginiaGentleman
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Re: What happened to VG? getting "busted" [Re: Run]
#18929044 - 10/04/13 12:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I feel you man, i've been in the dumps. lady left me, career may be down the drain if i cant get off with first offender charges.
D/W to anyone i've worked with in the past. i have no other ties to who you are, where you're from, deleted PM's, etc etc
just a hefty reminder to remeber this shit is schedule 1, felony type fuck up your life type shit
my roomie has been served, i have not been that makes me doubt the claims of the agents on this case
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Re: What happened to VG? getting "busted" [Re: PussyFart]
#18929054 - 10/04/13 12:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: Sorry to say you will most likely never see your firearms again....
Did you have anything active or was it all medicinal/edible?
THIS
I love my guns, i want my guns
Had a beautiful shot gun i prized confiscated
take it all except my guns!
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KatuXiK


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In court say "Did you get a warrant to search my room?" and then when they say "No" you're off the hook. If the police have a warrant that specifies a search on your roommate, that's all they can search. The search and seizure done in your room was done illegally.
I know of a guy who got busted with a large quantity of illegal materials, because a fly-over was done over his property (farm land) and a heat signature was seen, so a warrant was obtained to find the heat signature; Of course, rather than a heat signature there was a large quantity of contraband that was seized and my dad's friend was arrested. Upon asking "Did you have a warrant to search for these substances?" they immediately dropped the case saying "We cannot prove it belongs to him".
Good luck man, know your shit and keep your cool. Good vibes your way.
Edited by KatuXiK (10/04/13 06:51 AM)
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: What happened to VG? getting "busted" [Re: KatuXiK]
#18929126 - 10/04/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wrong forum for this.
But don't listen to anyone who says you are off the hook because they didn't have a warrant for your room.
In the course of a search, they see illegal goods, that is probable cause. Not only that, the warrant is going to be for the whole property as far as I know.
My buddy wasted a lot of money fighting felony drug charges from this angle. His other option was to blame it on his roommate that got the place raided and he didn't want to do that either.
Just because it seems like they shouldn't be able to doesn't mean they can't.
Save up some money and get yourself a good lawyer. At least get a consult with one or three.
Good luck and godspeed.
Edited by FrankHorrigan (10/04/13 12:41 AM)
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You're going to get charged with what they found. There's no way around it. Probably possession, distribution, manufacture, and paraphernalia.
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Quote:
VirginiaGentleman said: "ginsing for personal use only" might be encapsulated ps. carulipes powder
narcotics unit seizes container marked "scientific, observational, and personal use only" with plenty of jars of grain/wood/agar
seizes bags of spore prints marked "for microscopy use only" exotics and cubes bagged respectivly
explain use is non-psycadellic wood loving medicinal mushrooms Ganoderma Tsugea.
I agree with nooneman, because of this above...
These admissions alone were a huge mistake and are probably going to cost you
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KatuXiK


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Re: What happened to VG? getting "busted" [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18929905 - 10/04/13 06:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said: But don't listen to anyone who says you are off the hook because they didn't have a warrant for your room.
In the course of a search, they see illegal goods, that is probable cause. Not only that, the warrant is going to be for the whole property as far as I know.
My buddy wasted a lot of money fighting felony drug charges from this angle. His other option was to blame it on his roommate that got the place raided and he didn't want to do that either.
Just because it seems like they shouldn't be able to doesn't mean they can't.
A warrant specifies what can and cannot be searched, it does not make the entire property "open season", and it is meant to be followed. A warrant for the right-most cupboard in your kitchen is just that, a warrant for the right-most cupboard only, the cupboards around it cannot be searched, though if there are quantities of illicit substances are found, then it's another story. As far as am aware, a couple grams of weed wouldn't be enough to get away with searching all the other cupboards. If there was a massive bag of weed or mushrooms out in the open, it could be probable cause, but he said the police raided his room based on one nug of weed, which we all know any number of americans have in their room, and it doesn't mean they're drug dealers or anything, and in many cases that 1 nug is all the weed there is. Probable cause is not "oh we saw a couple grams of weed, figured the guy must be pushing drugs hardcore".
I know people (not a person) who have gotten off due to searches done with out a warrant for the specified area, both in homes, and in vehicle searches. Of course, admitting to have been growing any type of mushroom may put you in a bad spot, as someone above said, which is why we have miranda rights; Always remain silent.
I really hope you can get a good lawyer dude.
Edited by KatuXiK (10/04/13 06:53 AM)
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Re: What happened to VG? getting "busted" [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18930313 - 10/04/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said: But don't listen to anyone who says you are off the hook because they didn't have a warrant for your room.
Not legal advice, but cut and paste...
In order to be valid under the Fourth Amendment, a search warrant must, inter alia, "particularly describe the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." U.S. Const. Amend. IV.
The purpose of this particularity requirement is to avoid "a general, exploratory rummaging in a person's belongings." Andresen v. Maryland, 427 U.S. 463, 480, 49 L. Ed. 2d 627, 96 S. Ct. 2737 (1976) (internal quotation marks omitted); Coolidge v. New Hampshire, 403 U.S. 443, 467, 91 S.Ct. 2022, 2038, 29 L.Ed.2d 564 (1971); see generally Stanford v. Texas, 379 U.S. 476, 481-85, 13 L. Ed. 2d 431, 85 S. Ct. 506 (1965) (describing history and purpose of particularity requirement).
A sufficiently particular warrant describes the items to be seized in such a manner that it leaves nothing to the discretion of the officer executing the warrant. See Marron v. United States, 275 U.S. 192, 196, 72 L. Ed. 231, 48 S. Ct. 74 (1927).Quote:
IME search warrants usually specify everything from A-Z. But you need to look at the warrant.
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Re: What happened to VG? getting "busted" [Re: fastfred]
#18930504 - 10/04/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Apparently you let them into your room voluntarily, or they saw a nug when you opened the door. That gives them probable cause to search your room even though it is not specified on the warrant.
You should talk to some local lawyers about the case. You should use your time before charges are files to research a few lawyers. Don‘t hire one until charges are filed since you do not know what you are facing. There is a small chance that charges will not be filed, very small...
I don‘t think opening the door was a very good legal move. You generally retain more rights when you make them break it down. The right thing to do would have been to tell them your name and that it was your room, while making sure there was nothing illegal in plain sight. Then go back to bed until they leave the house.
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VirginiaGentleman
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Spoke with attornies, have multiple family ties to the legal field. Chances are it may be reduced to possession with a plea, seeking counseling for mental stuff, ASAP classes etc
The agents seeing the pot was probable cause to flip my shit upside down.
Nothing was admitted, nothing was identified besides medicinal efforts.
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KatuXiK


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Thats a hell of a lot better than getting tossed in prison for being a hippy, glad to hear things may turn out "well" for you. It's really a shame that we live in a country where exploring self and spiritual awareness can have you torn down and thrown into a living hell.
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Re: What happened to VG? getting "busted" [Re: KatuXiK]
#18933753 - 10/04/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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KatuXiK said: Thats a hell of a lot better than getting tossed in prison for being a hippy, glad to hear things may turn out "well" for you. It's really a shame that we live in a country where exploring self and spiritual awareness can have you torn down and thrown into a living hell.
Graham Hancock has some beautiful insights of the irony as well as Hippocratic limits placed upon us, and the power of a controlling minority has on our individual conscious
granted it doesn't change the fact of the current "war on drugs" and the illegality of such altering compounds has on our self.
If i may have been drawn to this biologically oriented field to self medicating mental imbalances that as a patient of my own discern... which has improved my quality of life, in the privacy of my own home, and focused self, as well as overall life improvement. How am i wronging society as a whole?
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Re: What happened to VG? getting "busted" [Re: KatuXiK]
#18933782 - 10/04/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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KatuXiK said: Thats a hell of a lot better than getting tossed in prison for being a hippy, glad to hear things may turn out "well" for you. It's really a shame that we live in a country where exploring self and spiritual awareness can have you torn down and thrown into a living hell.
He'll still never see his firearms again.
I mean George Zimmerman was found not guilty of murder 3 months ago and still has not gotten his handgun returned to him.
Sorry....little drunk....
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Re: What happened to VG? getting "busted" [Re: PussyFart]
#18933790 - 10/04/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Didn't say he would, but I personally would rather not go to prison and not get my guns back, than go to prison (and not get my guns back).
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Re: What happened to VG? getting "busted" [Re: PussyFart]
#18933817 - 10/04/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
He'll still never see his firearms again.
I mean George Zimmerman was found not guilty of murder 3 months ago and still has not gotten his handgun returned to him.
Sorry....little drunk....
seriously, if i can have it wiped in 2yrs (first offender statute) with a case listed as undisclosed there's no felonies placed upon my name i will suck a dick for that, well maybe not, but you get the idea..
i have no problem going through alc or drug abuse classes, i've gone clean for long periods of time without concern
you and me both bro....
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