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Offline5553
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Friend wants to do shrooms but is on these meds
    #18928670 - 10/03/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have a friend from way back that wants to try shrooms but she is on alot of meds. Here is the list of meds she is on:

Pariet
Buscopan
Celexa
Abilify
Hydromorphone
Lyrica
Tricyclen

Is she safe to do shrooms? There is so many meds there I figured I should check here and see.....

Thanks!


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Re: Friend wants to do shrooms but is on these meds [Re: 5553]
    #18928966 - 10/03/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not knowledgeable enough to give advice concerning safety but I'll tell you that
>Celexa
is a SSRI which will almost completely diminishes the effects of psilocybin. I know this from experience, but also:

"SSRIs also directly interfere with ligands of 5-HT receptors, like the psychedelics and entactogens. SSRIs strongly attenuate the effects of tryptamine psychedelics like psilocybin and LSD, and almost completely eliminate the serotonergic effects of phenethylamine psychedelics like mescaline and MDMA. The exact mechanism that causes this interaction is still unclear."

Source:
http://www.news-medical.net/health/SSRIs-What-are-SSRIs.aspx


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Re: Friend wants to do shrooms but is on these meds [Re: Brubbles]
    #18929215 - 10/04/13 01:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

OP you in USA right? They giving meds out like candy... Wtf


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Re: Friend wants to do shrooms but is on these meds [Re: Fungi]
    #18929362 - 10/04/13 02:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

her trip will probably be affected by celexa most. May not be a bad thing, i take st johns wort on shrooms to enhance my vibes.

The only pills that really block shrooms are serotonin antagonists like flexeril


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Re: Friend wants to do shrooms but is on these meds [Re: gman7104]
    #18930362 - 10/04/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Honestly

I am not judging but someone who is on that many Meds has some issues that need resolving before taking mushrooms.... Set and setting isn't just a saying

Their set must be .... Errr... Rough? 

As mentioned.... The Meds will reduce or completely negate the experience

Also... They should not just stop taking the Meds so they can trip...

Just my opinion... 1 1/2 cents worth


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Re: Friend wants to do shrooms but is on these meds [Re: HarryL]
    #18930417 - 10/04/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

doctor I'm not feeling happy, give me drugs,




doctor I'm still not happy, MORE DRUGS.


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Re: Friend wants to do shrooms but is on these meds [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18930482 - 10/04/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Agentchewy said:
doctor I'm not feeling happy, give me drugs,


doctor I'm still not happy, MORE DRUGS.



Pretty much..
Shroms wont  work for your friend, he's mind and body are too heavily poisoned by pharma dope.


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Re: Friend wants to do shrooms but is on these meds [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #18930555 - 10/04/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Actually, looking at the brand name of the drugs, I'd say OP was in Canada.

Also, I wouldnt give shrooms to someone on all of those drugs. You can trip on celexa, I have many times. But found it produces little visuals, and almost purely mindfuck, which wouldnt be good since your friend is also on anti psychotics.

Also your friend is only 2 different digestive related drugs, shrooms may be too hard on her stomach.


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Re: Friend wants to do shrooms but is on these meds [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #18930684 - 10/04/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

that is true, it seems your friend is in pain due to gastrointestinal issues and shrooms won't help. They don't bother my stomach but they bother a lot of other people.

She will trip but it will be changed by the pharms. Still could have a good trip


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Re: Friend wants to do shrooms but is on these meds [Re: gman7104]
    #18930889 - 10/04/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They sure do.  I take nadalol for bp, prevastatin for cholesterol, Neurontin for my over active nerves in my leg (and headaches), Pristiq for depression, Fluphenazine for the voices, and benzatropine to buffer the Fluphenazine.

Tripping is a bit harder to pull off as I find doses of up to 3.5 grams produce only limited visual enhancements and a nice buzz.  Something I take doesn't like my shrooms.  I just have no idea what it is and that's really okay with me anyway.  I take them to chase away the headaches and they work pretty good for that, so I am a satisfied grower and consumer.


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Re: Friend wants to do shrooms but is on these meds [Re: mpd]
    #18938659 - 10/06/13 01:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Your friend can trip but probably on in excess of 10 times the usual dose, or however many grams you want them to trip on, multiplied by 10. That's a lot of shrooms to eat, or pills to swallow.

The Abilify or other antipsychotics are the main ones. Abilify is extremely good at blocking the main receptors mushrooms use, such as 5HT2a. However maybe 5% of receptors remain available for psychs maybe due to there just not being enough Abilify to go around or maybe due to the complexity of the neurology where there are tiny opportunities for some psilocybin or LSD to sneak through.

I'm on Abilify and Risperdal and I recently had a little dabble, even though I've been meaning not to because the Abilify is prescribed for positive symptoms of schizophrenia, and after 6 caps I got the slightest change in mood. On 15 caps 36 hours later I got a noticeable but not significant mood lift, noticeable wavy motion changes in carpet (I was staring at the carpet for some reason) and the visual field, everything was significantly more interesting. No trip though. Nothing really special.

I would have to have at least double that dose for a level 2 trip. So 30 caps for a level 2 trip.

So yeah your friend can trip but it's a bit ridiculous.

With SSRIs you might be looking at 15-20x the aimed-for dose.


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Re: Friend wants to do shrooms but is on these meds [Re: mpd]
    #18938670 - 10/06/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

mpd said:
They sure do.  I take nadalol for bp, prevastatin for cholesterol, Neurontin for my over active nerves in my leg (and headaches), Pristiq for depression, Fluphenazine for the voices, and benzatropine to buffer the Fluphenazine.

Tripping is a bit harder to pull off as I find doses of up to 3.5 grams produce only limited visual enhancements and a nice buzz.  Something I take doesn't like my shrooms.  I just have no idea what it is and that's really okay with me anyway.  I take them to chase away the headaches and they work pretty good for that, so I am a satisfied grower and consumer.



It probably isn't the antipsychotic because it is typical not atypical and so isn't strongly binding to 5HT2a, it's probably the antidepressant.


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Re: Friend wants to do shrooms but is on these meds [Re: circastes]
    #18939212 - 10/06/13 08:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

As said before, if your friend is on so many meds, i would rather advise not taking shrooms, as we all know, ppl who are mentally ill can fuck up real bad on psychedelics
Im not the fittest aswell, but my psychological problems are kept within the limits, so are the horrortips.
I only take venlafaxin 75mg (a little dose)...does this have any effects on shrooms?


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Re: Friend wants to do shrooms but is on these meds [Re: Beown1337]
    #18943169 - 10/07/13 02:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't want to encourage the wrong thing but the mushroom experience doesn't seem to have anything to do with mental disorders or schizophrenia particularly. This idea that they trigger underlying disorders might eventually be shown to be untrue when research actually takes off again. I think from the outside they look similar but internally, schizophrenia has a kind of evil to it, whereas shrooms actually take you into divine realms of the imagination/nervous system.

It's cannabis that's going to get a bad name with mental disorders imo.


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Re: Friend wants to do shrooms but is on these meds [Re: circastes]
    #18945669 - 10/07/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know much about antidepressants. Listen to the people that have personal experience, then tell the friend to think about it and judge for herself. Ultimately the choice is hers, maybe she should be here asking for herself. :wink:

Anyway, I'm on a benzodiazapine for seizures but it's also sometimes prescribed to people with bipolar disorder. A lot of the anticonvulsants are also used for psychiatric disorders. I don't have any problems with cross-reaction.

I don't see Adderall and Xanax on that list so she must be outside of the US. :tongue:


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