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InvisibleImperfect Iam
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Obamacare
    #18925116 - 10/03/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Which would you prefer obamacare or the affordable healthcare act?


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Re: Obamacare [Re: Imperfect Iam]
    #18925120 - 10/03/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

what? :lol: obamacare is aka the affordable care act,

seems to be working just as planned



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InvisibleImperfect Iam
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Re: Obamacare [Re: B_BOY]
    #18925245 - 10/03/13 10:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

LOL You are correct B_boy Political discussion almost always seems to start hard feelings towards others that's why I threw this one out there(I am involved in politics, but that's not why I'm on here but it never hurts to get into civil discussions about it but they hardly ever turn out to be civil dis.). Can't get much past my fellow shroomerites! Jimmy Kimmel was the one who started that one and you would not believe the amount of people that said oh the ahca by far! Wait a minute yes u would.


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Re: Obamacare [Re: Imperfect Iam]
    #18925645 - 10/03/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Obama care because obama cares :smile:

hahahaha


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Re: Obamacare [Re: Imperfect Iam]
    #18925663 - 10/03/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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cc1 said:
LOL You are correct B_boy Political discussion almost always seems to start hard feelings towards others that's why I threw this one out there(I am involved in politics, but that's not why I'm on here but it never hurts to get into civil discussions about it but they hardly ever turn out to be civil dis.). Can't get much past my fellow shroomerites! Jimmy Kimmel was the one who started that one and you would not believe the amount of people that said oh the ahca by far! Wait a minute yes u would.



OHHH :lol: yeah most average people on the street, especially Obama voters are pretty gullible and or ignorant.


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InvisibleImperfect Iam
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Re: Obamacare [Re: B_BOY]
    #18925770 - 10/03/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Alright now, I am an Obama voter and Democrat middle class white voter, now remember what I wrote this is not why I joined the shroomery political discussions can quickly turn ugly and friends into enemies so be nice. But how in the World can ANYONE trust the republicans hell actually I just think the dems. are the lesser of two evils. IMO Obamacare is a step in the right direction, could use some reform. But something has to be done about the state of healthcare, people are dying so insurance companies can rake in the $$$. Maybe this is not the answer but at least a step forward. This is my opinion and like I said I actually just posted this to see how many I could catch on it, I didn't get to see how quick you answered but by the time I got back there had only been like 20 views! Ohh and if people don't think the government is in there docs office, who do u think oversees scripts written?


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Re: Obamacare [Re: Imperfect Iam] * 2
    #18926734 - 10/03/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

People are not dying so health insurance can rake in millions (their profit margin is not that much) and Obamacare has given them even more power than before.  MedicAid already took care of the poor.  Sure the quality of care sucked almost as much as Canada's and Britain's but at least it was something.  Now we have, thanks to Obamacare an incredible work statistic.  77 % of new hires last year were for jobs less than 30 hours.  Gee, I wonder why that is.  Don't you?  I bet we're going to see a lot of companies with just under 50 full time employees.

Socialism is stupid but socialists are even stupider.


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Re: Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18926842 - 10/03/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No,I don't, u can't repair the damage Bush did in 8 years UNLESS the president can get some bipartisan support, not happening obviously!!


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Re: Obamacare [Re: Imperfect Iam]
    #18927470 - 10/03/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What damage?  Your idea of it might differ from mine.

The Republicans were elected to the House specifically to thwart Obamacare, which the People pretty much loathe.  It is a complete crap sandwich.


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Re: Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod] * 2
    #18928054 - 10/03/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I agree,
Obamacare takes money from the young healthy people by making it mandatory to have insurance at a steep price.
That money is used to fund the dying baby boomer population that they will loose money on in the long run.

It has become a mandatory tax to steal the wealth from the middle class.
All the premiums will go up and if you do not comply the penalties will keep getting worse.
They will ask you on your tax return for proof of insurance and if you don't have it they take the money away on the spot.

There is no checks or balances, they answer to no one.
Its complete bullshit.
just like the two party system.
These fools fight with themselves like children in preschool.

Do you really think they have anyone's best intentions in mind but themselves?


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Re: Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18928168 - 10/03/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I just read a post by you that said ps I hate democrats so u hate me because I'm a democrat, if that's what your saying that's pretty shitty man. I do believe u have actually helped me out in other forums so if you read my post on where we are debating that is EXACTLY the reason I posted that!!


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Re: Obamacare [Re: reality_check]
    #18928172 - 10/03/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Like I said the lesser of 2 evils


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Re: Obamacare [Re: reality_check]
    #18928547 - 10/03/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

reality_check said:
I agree,
Obamacare takes money from the young healthy people by making it mandatory to have insurance at a steep price.
That money is used to fund the dying baby boomer population that they will loose money on in the long run.

It has become a mandatory tax to steal the wealth from the middle class.
All the premiums will go up and if you do not comply the penalties will keep getting worse.
They will ask you on your tax return for proof of insurance and if you don't have it they take the money away on the spot.

There is no checks or balances, they answer to no one.
Its complete bullshit.
just like the two party system.
These fools fight with themselves like children in preschool.

Do you really think they have anyone's best intentions in mind but themselves?




Fucking this.


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Re: Obamacare [Re: Imperfect Iam] * 3
    #18928875 - 10/03/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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cc1 said:
Like I said the lesser of 2 evils



Democrats suck ass

I'm not Republican


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I think we should cut all the social parasites from their welfare checks. Then they will either find a means to support themselves or starve to death, either of wich is good for the economy and society.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

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Re: Obamacare [Re: Simplicitry]
    #18928941 - 10/03/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Read my second post! I'm just another mushroom lover like you, and I don't suck ass and I am NOT A REPUBLICAN either.


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Re: Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #18930085 - 10/04/13 08:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
People are not dying so health insurance can rake in millions (their profit margin is not that much)





False, health Insurance companies have profit margins well into the millions, and even billions.

UnitedHealth Group pulled in $5.1 billion net in 2011.
Aetna earned $1.99 billion in 2011.

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Obamacare has given them even more power than before




No objections. PPACA funnels more money to them than ever before.


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Re: Obamacare [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #18930234 - 10/04/13 09:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What percentage was their profit margin?


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Re: Obamacare Meant for this reply for the guy above BoldAsLove [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #18930312 - 10/04/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Finally someone stepped in, NOT MUCH PROFIT, zappaisgod, fuck I'd love to see your bank account then.


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Re: Obamacare [Re: Imperfect Iam]
    #18930405 - 10/04/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Read my second post! I'm just another mushroom lover like you, and I don't suck ass and I am NOT A REPUBLICAN either.




I despise the democratic party. I share hardly any values with them. They support higher taxes, government handouts to parasitic poor, even though democrats never admit it handouts to the  parasitic rich, government bailouts, government interference in health care. Government! Government! Government! Bunch of government cock sucking bastards, government empowering bastards.

Not to mention  their racist history of the Klu Kluck Klan, opposing the civil right movement, and now supporting racist selection of people through affirmative action

There are only 2 points of the democratic platform that I can get on board with. One being gay rights. The other being abortion, which is not even a real political issue let alone an important one considering the Supreme Court ruled on it 40 years ago

Sure there are things that I disdain about the republican party, but on these issues of contention I have with the republicans democrats are no different. They support drug prohibition, meddling in foreign conflicts, and catering to rich special interests

I am a right wing libertarian, a Constitutionalist. To my way of thinking the Republicans are the lesser of two evils, but they are only slightly better then Democrats.

What  a disgusting animal the Democratic Party is. With such a disgusting history


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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

I think we should cut all the social parasites from their welfare checks. Then they will either find a means to support themselves or starve to death, either of wich is good for the economy and society.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

"Islam in a man is worse then rabies in a dog"


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Re: Obamacare [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18930438 - 10/04/13 09:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
What percentage was their profit margin?





About 5%. But those two numbers I posted were net profits.


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