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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: Enlil]
    #1916710 - 09/14/03 11:20 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Same here. I agree with some of the points Moore was making, but he was being really unfair to Heston.


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: silversoul7]
    #1916839 - 09/15/03 12:17 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Why does this thread say regarding luvdemshrooms?


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: sirreal]
    #1916843 - 09/15/03 12:18 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Some guy changed the title a while back and everyone's too lazy to fix it.


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: Enlil]
    #1917136 - 09/15/03 02:02 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

"I don't have anything against Heston either. When I saw BFC, I wanted to punch Moore in the face for ambushing the poor guy."

oh fuck that


what did he do walk in front of him and talk


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Re: Rhetorical double-speak and the hatemongers who use it. [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1917199 - 09/15/03 02:22 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

There.  Just had to change the title of the 'Re:' part of the thread. :smile:

Oh, and while we're on rhetoric...

Heston = Fucktard.

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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: sirreal]
    #1917406 - 09/15/03 05:27 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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sirreal said:
Why does this thread say regarding luvdemshrooms?



Actually it says.... luvdemushrooms, not luvdemshrooms.


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Re: Rhetorical double-speak and the hatemongers who use it. [Re: GernBlanston]
    #1917408 - 09/15/03 05:29 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I did that once already. As soon as someone came along and responded to a poster that had the re:luvdemushrooms, it went back. See the above post for an example.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1917480 - 09/15/03 07:27 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

so what's your problem with heston?

what did he do walk in front of him and talk

yes, and when he was finished with him, he used some camera trickery to make it look like heston stormed out of the interview, ignoring moore, which didn't happen.

piece of shit that moore is.


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Re: Rhetorical double-speak and the hatemongers who use it. [Re: GernBlanston]
    #1917482 - 09/15/03 07:28 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Heston = Fucktard.

why?


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Re: Rhetorical double-speak and the hatemongers who use it. [Re: ]
    #1917633 - 09/15/03 10:09 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

No one's posted an outright lie by Moore yet. If you give me one, then I'll be a lot more prepared to believe you. If it's just what COULD be interpreted then I'm sorry but everyone interprets things differently - it's totally subjective.

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Re: Rhetorical double-speak and the hatemongers who use it. [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1917665 - 09/15/03 10:39 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

LMAO, I can't believe this is still going on....
Some people are far worse off than I initially thought...


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Re: Rhetorical double-speak and the hatemongers who use it. [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1917934 - 09/15/03 01:27 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

i'm still waiting on a definition of the word "lie" from you.


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Re: Rhetorical double-speak and the hatemongers who use it. [Re: ]
    #1918175 - 09/15/03 03:00 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I already posted the definition that showed deceiving someone is a lie. He was deceitful, so he lied. Simple, eh?


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Re: Rhetorical double-speak and the hatemongers who use it. [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1918394 - 09/15/03 04:02 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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No one's posted an outright lie by Moore yet. If you give me one, then I'll be a lot more prepared to believe you. If it's just what COULD be interpreted then I'm sorry but everyone interprets things differently - it's totally subjective.

UH





Everyone believes Moore lies! - unlikelyhero

What I just did was took your own words, cut and pasted them ,much like moore does, and got a different meaning. Now, you DID say "everyone believes moore lies", just not in that order. Am I telling the truth attributing that quote to you? If not, is it a lie that I am saying that?


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Re: Rhetorical double-speak and the hatemongers who use it. [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1918510 - 09/15/03 04:40 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

unlikelyhero said:
No one's posted an outright lie by Moore yet. If you give me one, then I'll be a lot more prepared to believe you. If it's just what COULD be interpreted then I'm sorry but everyone interprets things differently - it's totally subjective.

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Re: Rhetorical double-speak and the hatemongers who use it. [Re: ]
    #1918548 - 09/15/03 05:02 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

If anyone for one second thought that this movie was real your an idiot.. It baffles me how anyone could take it seriously..


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Re: Rhetorical double-speak and the hatemongers who use it. [Re: lysergic]
    #1918607 - 09/15/03 05:29 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

lysergic said:
Quote:

unlikelyhero said:
No one's posted an outright lie by Moore yet. If you give me one, then I'll be a lot more prepared to believe you. If it's just what COULD be interpreted then I'm sorry but everyone interprets things differently - it's totally subjective.

UH





Everyone believes Moore lies! - unlikelyhero

What I just did was took your own words, cut and pasted them ,much like moore does, and got a different meaning. Now, you DID say "everyone believes moore lies", just not in that order. Am I telling the truth attributing that quote to you? If not, is it a lie that I am saying that?




haha, good one.

edit; oops, im an idiot.


Edited by immaculate (09/15/03 05:31 PM)


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Re: Rhetorical double-speak and the hatemongers who use it. [Re: lysergic]
    #1918620 - 09/15/03 05:32 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

lysergic said:
Quote:

unlikelyhero said:
No one's posted an outright lie by Moore yet. If you give me one, then I'll be a lot more prepared to believe you. If it's just what COULD be interpreted then I'm sorry but everyone interprets things differently - it's totally subjective.

UH





Everyone believes Moore lies! - unlikelyhero

What I just did was took your own words, cut and pasted them ,much like moore does, and got a different meaning. Now, you DID say "everyone believes moore lies", just not in that order. Am I telling the truth attributing that quote to you? If not, is it a lie that I am saying that?




Thing is, you're doing it incorrectly, and outside of a messageboard it could get you sued for libel. As far as I understand it when you quote someone in writing, and are splicing bits together, you have to add "..." in between the bit's you've missed. So your mis-quote might go something like "Everyone believes...Moore lies!". That way it is known that the quote has been abbreviated from it's original form. Moore did the same thing with the speeches, he intersected them with other footage so it can be seen that he's not making those statements in the same structure, this is done on the news also (or at the very least with a 'blurring' effect). I think the author of the original article gives the viewer too little credit.

Edit: Notice how Heston hasn't tried to sue Moore for slander?


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In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


Edited by Edame (09/15/03 05:34 PM)


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Re: Rhetorical double-speak and the hatemongers who use it. [Re: Edame]
    #1918656 - 09/15/03 05:46 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Keep on defending him Edame. We all know it was dishonest and wrong.


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Re: Rhetorical double-speak and the hatemongers who use it. [Re: shakta]
    #1918684 - 09/15/03 05:55 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not defending him, I think he was misleading (and now not very credible), but I don't think he lied. I think that lysergic's logic was flawed in this instance, and was adding my opinion.

While we're at it, why do you think it is that Heston hasn't sued Moore for slander? If he blantantly lied about what Heston said, then Heston would have every right to sue surely?


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The above is an extract from my fictional novel, "The random postings of Edame".
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In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


Edited by Edame (09/15/03 05:57 PM)


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