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InvisiblePsiloKitten
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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: lysergic]
    #1910770 - 09/12/03 09:08 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Big words? Must I write monosyllabically?

How bizarre.



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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #1910780 - 09/12/03 09:16 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

In this case, maybe.  You're dealing with someone who thinks arabs are "crazy primates" and that blacks should go "back to Africa".  :nut:


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In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: Edame]
    #1912215 - 09/13/03 11:26 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Top ten list of irritating Internet personalities : People that use the phrase "How bizzare". We aren't having a poetry contest, sweety, and we aren't exhuberating ourselves subhominesly into using grammaticals that are incorrectly juxtaposed. :-)


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In response to an attack killing 15 American Servicemen
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Just give em a little more time, the iraqis are making great progress. And this is unorganized. Wait till they get organized.


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InvisiblePsiloKitten
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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: lysergic]
    #1912334 - 09/13/03 12:50 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Heh.

Okey dokey.

I'd probably really be irritating to you if you knew the inflection I use when saying "How bizarre"-  Bisou Bisou Cherie.

And who told you that life in general was anything else then word (poetry) made flesh?  You should read "A Good Cuntboy is Hard to Find" by Doug Rice.. because you could definately play the protagonist.

In either case, we have strayed off the topic and I guess you are going to have to learn how to deal with my incorrect juxtoposition ( I mean, come on... read your post and realize how funny it is that you say that) or stop reading my posts. :smile:  I'm fine either way..







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Offlineunlikelyhero
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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #1912517 - 09/13/03 01:54 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I followed one of the links sourced for the criticism of Bowling for Columbine, the bit where Moore highlights a section of an article saying 48hours later and says that he's talking about an N.R.A response. The sourced website says it's actually a Clinton response, but furter down the article it actually says the N.R.A respond to what Clinton said about guns and the murder on the same day, so Moore was actually right!!!
Also the Heston quotes - you'd have to be supremely stupid to think that it was all one speech, it's got gaps BECAUSE it's a series of quotes from Heston, it's obvious it's a different place each time, I would have thought.

Nevermind, then...

UH


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1912557 - 09/13/03 02:03 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Next on the list - the georgetown Hoya interview, the point is not whether or not he responded to the fact of Kayla Rolland's death, but that he was made aware of it, the fact that he avoided that segment of the question merely shows that the N.R.A spin team hadn't had a chance to get an answer to that question yet! Moore is only showing that Heston must have been aware of it, the website completely sidesteps the point.

These things are open to interpretation a bit aren't they?

UH


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1912568 - 09/13/03 02:07 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry, I keep finding new things - You know he quotes reviews? One review I couldn't find the quote he used, the second one was a review in 'your socialist home on the internet' so hardly someone impartial looking at the film, but someone who wants to put even more of a spin on it than moore does. And it's an amateur student website! One reviewer makes it sound like someone writing for the New York Times.

And furthermore, when he talks about the guy who killed Kayla being the class thug, and his uncle being a crack dealer, all well and good, Moore doesn't say anything about his uncle. The point was he had to stay there because his mother was forced to work out of town in malls in a local work scheme in order to have any money - he actually rams Moore's point home about how insane this scheme is that
it forced this boy to be at a drug-dealer's house where guns were easily available.

UH

P.S. FACT about the US govt and the Taliban... the Taliban were in Detroit SIX MONTHS before Sept 11 meeting with Oil and govt representatives to secure a pipeline through afghanistan from central asia in return for aid. Source - the Guardian. Oh, so the Americans did, after all, like Moore said, support the Taliban regime behind the scenes.


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1912600 - 09/13/03 02:22 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

My final point is this is Moore's full response to the Lockheed allegations (which the guy only quotes for a few sentences and 'manipulates' to seem different than it actually is):
Well, first of all, the Lockheed PR people would disagree with your use of the term, "missile." They now call their Titan and Atlas missiles on which nuclear warheads were once (and still are but in less numbers) attached, "rockets." That?s because the Lockheed rockets now take satellites into outer space. Some of them are weather satellites, some are telecommunications satellites, and some are top secret Pentagon projects (like the ones that are launched as spy satellites and others which are used to direct the launching of the nuclear missiles should the USA ever decide to use them).
Lockheed Martin is the largest defense contractor in the United States. They gave us the MX missile and are now heavily involved in developing the nutty Star Wars missile defense shield. They have five facilities in and around the Littleton and Denver area and they are the #1 private employer in the school district that contains Columbine High School.

I smell a smear campaign. I also smell that the guy who wrote that website is using the exact same techniques that he accused Moore of.

Also about Heston appearing in Denver - if it was an annual meeting of the N.R.A then couldn't it have been held behind closed doors instead of Heston making a speech to the worlds press about gun ownership?

UH


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1912605 - 09/13/03 02:25 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

two things:

1. the sort of gun control moore espouses is totalitarian bullshit.

2. he's a liar.


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: ]
    #1912617 - 09/13/03 02:27 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Can you please dispute what I just said rather than just saying 'he's a liar'?
Two of the supposed key sources on that website don't even work so I'm starting to believe that the website is bullshit too.

UH


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1912650 - 09/13/03 02:40 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

it'll take me a moment to get together a rebuttal to what you just said, but i can already tell you that even if what you said is true, there are many other instances in the "documentary" of clever deception and outright lies.


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1912692 - 09/13/03 02:58 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I followed one of the links sourced for the criticism of Bowling for Columbine, the bit where Moore highlights a section of an article saying 48hours later and says that he's talking about an N.R.A response. The sourced website says it's actually a Clinton response, but furter down the article it actually says the N.R.A respond to what Clinton said about guns and the murder on the same day, so Moore was actually right!!!

you're going to have to explain that better. specifically, what part of the page are referring to, and which specific allegation of lying do you think is unfounded?

Also the Heston quotes - you'd have to be supremely stupid to think that it was all one speech, it's got gaps BECAUSE it's a series of quotes from Heston, it's obvious it's a different place each time, I would have thought.

if he wasn't trying to mislead, why would moore edit them to make them look continuous?


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1912745 - 09/13/03 03:13 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

about lockheed martin. moore said that the factory was involved in making "weapons of mass destruction". in reality, the factory made rockets for launching satelites. an outright lie.

a smear campaign? what are you talking about?

using the same tactics? i don't see any evidence on the page of lying or deception, but complete scrutiny in the search for the truth.

there are literally dozens of lies in the film and so much cinematic slight-of-hand that moore probably spent hours and hours editting the film to get right. it's probably the most biased, deceptive media creation i've ever seen.


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1912769 - 09/13/03 03:21 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

of moore's deceptions, there is a spectrum of just how dishonest each one is. you've selected 3 or 4 of the more mild deceptions (which are still, in my opinion, great examples of outright dishonesty) out of dozens for dispute. perhaps you're right and a couple of his deceptions are "open to interpretation", but the fact still remains that there are many, many other instances of total dishonesty which are not. if you believe that this proves that michael moore is indeed being honest, your reasoning is fallacious, and certainly doesn't buy moore any credibility or excuse this film from criticism.

i say again: michael moore is a liar.


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: ]
    #1913925 - 09/13/03 10:39 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

hmmmmmmm



Well I for one am glad charleton heston is dead, may he rot in the ground never to show his backwards face on earth again , that slimy cocksucker
hehehe

and as for Mike moore well I like ALOT of what he says, although I havent seen this movie, people that dont like him are raised on a diet of corporate media ,so anyone that says something outside of their little horrible twisted veiw of the world is lying!

as for guns............well I do think its ok to have them , but I cant help but notice , we up here have them and there arent really problems like you in the US have

hell my dad has 9 guns (maybe more I think) all regestered and he doenst feel like the government is going to take his freedom away etc etc , hell we dont have real freedom or democracy to begin with, but he doesnt know that cause hes not very smart , most people that love guns arent , hehehe



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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #1913956 - 09/13/03 10:54 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

PsiloKitten said:
Clarification:

You choose to focus on something that isnt even paramount to this fight and focus on the issue designed by Delay and his ilk to pull the wool over the eyes of those who were waking up to the injustice. By engaging in the race debate in the old south, it becomes a murky mess. This was not a card played by the Tex Dems first and is not a key issue of theirs. Its a sparring inssue, of course. I moved back to this state, due in large part to this battle. I felt my activism needed to jump back into the belly of the beast. So, from the inside it's just appauling to me that this is what you are choosing to see and I find that telling of the public at large considering the tactics that are being used.

Of all the people Ive talked to, you are, just like DoctorJ said, the first to see things in that manner.

I dont understand why the last post was so difficult to get, but I hope this helped you.




What is this great injustice? The state has not been redisctricted by it's legislature since the 90s. It needs to be done again, and it needs to be done so it represents our state. The part I find funny is that the additional seats could go either way, and that any map must be approved by the courts to make sure it doesn't violate anyones rights. The Dems left the state abandoning their jobs. They did not like the way it was going so they took their ball and left town. They did make it a racial issue. If I am the first person you have heard say this you have not even listened to both sides. The fact that you came here to protest it, makes that easy to believe.


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1913965 - 09/13/03 10:58 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

What did Heston ever do to deserve such hatred from you? Are you just playing along or something, or do you have reasons?


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: shakta]
    #1914036 - 09/13/03 11:28 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

"What did Heston ever do to deserve such hatred from you? "
although my words are strong I dont HATE him , I just think he is stupid and the human race is better off without him


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1914042 - 09/13/03 11:30 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

You have no reasons?


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Re: luvdemushrooms [Re: shakta]
    #1914053 - 09/13/03 11:36 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

the guys a fucking moron , he embodies whats wrong with the world, a stubern old man that cares only for himself , and his guns of course
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