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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1895266 - 09/08/03 07:04 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

did you over look my statement regarding switzerland?

its obvious that if everyone has a gun, people are less likely to use them.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: ]
    #1895292 - 09/08/03 07:13 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

As far as I understand it, the reason for the high gun ownership in Switzerland is due to their militia system. They may have lots of guns and rifles, but they are trained during their military service on how to use them responsibly. As far as I'm aware, no such system is widespread in the US.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: Edame]
    #1895324 - 09/08/03 07:28 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Also, considering the abuse that Moore seems to be getting on this thread, how does everyone feel about FOX news? In a recent lawsuit, FOX argued in their defence that it was not against the law to lie or distort the news. How's that for 'Fair and Balanced'?

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http://www.foxbghsuit.com/ja021903.htm

Accepting a defense rejected by three other Florida state judges in at least six separate motions, a Florida appeals court has reversed the $425,000 jury verdict in favor of journalist Jane Akre who charged she was pressured by Fox Television management and lawyers to air what she knew and documented to be false information.

In a six-page written decision released February 14, the court essentially ruled the journalist never stated a valid whistle-blower claim because, they ruled, it is technically not against any law, rule, or regulation to deliberately lie or distort the news on a television broadcast.

In the lawsuit filed in 1998, Akre claimed she was wrongfully terminated for threatening to blow the whistle to the FCC. After a five-week trial that ended August 18, 2000, a six-person jury was unanimous in its conclusion that she was indeed fired for threatening report the station?s pressure to broadcast what jurors decided was ?a false, distorted, or slanted? story about the widespread use of growth hormone in dairy cows.

In overturning the jury on what amounts to a legal technicality, the court did not dispute the heart of Akre?s claim, that Fox pressured her to broadcast a false story to protect the broadcaster from having to defend the truth in court, as well as suffer the ire of irate advertisers.




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The above is an extract from my fictional novel, "The random postings of Edame".
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In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: Edame]
    #1895383 - 09/08/03 07:44 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Technically correct.

Morally repugnant.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: Gus]
    #1895599 - 09/08/03 09:06 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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Gus said:
Why in the USA theres over 10 000 murders wich involved guns ?
Bunch of psyco ! :wink: 




Are you ASKING a question or MAKING a statement? I cannot tell from what you posted.
All I know is that Michael Moore must be taken with about 10 million grains of salt and a sense of humor. 


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: Clover]
    #1895735 - 09/08/03 09:52 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

think gus was being sarcastic.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: lysergic]
    #1896299 - 09/09/03 12:30 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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lysergic said:
Yea, micheal moore is either a jew, or the jew-media has implanted the bug of "white hate" in him.  either way, he is a fuckwit.  I think that someoen should lock him and Charleton Heston in a room together with one gun, and let them fight to the death. 




Thank you.

Thank you for strengthening the inherant notion I have.  Then notion that makes me fucking pro nuclear.  GODDAMMIT you people make me pro nuclear.  Viruses with shoes.  I swear to god.

Fucking moron.

Oooops.  I think that was a flame!

/e leaves this fucking board again after remembering why he left the first time. 


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: GernBlanston]
    #1896823 - 09/09/03 03:20 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Someone outta whip his fat doughy white wussy ass. Shakta and lyseric are right.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: Meat_Log_Smurf]
    #1896910 - 09/09/03 03:46 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I saw Moore speak at a Green Party Rally, and all I could think was "What a fucking prick!" I can't stand him and I consider myself to be pretty liberal.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: Demiurge]
    #1896982 - 09/09/03 04:09 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

It wouldn't be so bad if it hadn't won an award for best "documentary" and were instead sold as a work of fiction.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1897005 - 09/09/03 04:18 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

It wouldn't be bad if he wasn't simply whipping the liberal dogs into a little frenzy so he can soothe his own huge ego.
It wouldn't be so bad if he did a blaine-esque trick tying himself to a lampost for 10 days while people pistol-whip him....

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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1897833 - 09/09/03 01:06 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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Baby_Hitler said:
It wouldn't be so bad if it hadn't won an award for best "documentary" and were instead sold as a work of fiction.




Precisely


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1897940 - 09/09/03 01:34 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks, you're the only person to respond to my question so far, unsurprisingly the Moore bashing continues.


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In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: Edame]
    #1897969 - 09/09/03 01:41 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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Edame said:
Thanks, you're the only person to respond to my question so far, unsurprisingly the Moore bashing continues.


Hey no problem. You seem to be one of the few I haven't pissed off in the last few days.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1898314 - 09/09/03 03:29 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

You haven't pissed me off. But then, nobody has.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: Autonomous]
    #1898327 - 09/09/03 03:31 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

:lol: Give me time!

It's what happens when you say what you think and don't toe the PC line.

I've learned to live with it.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1898794 - 09/09/03 05:45 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

man, I had serious problems with this movie.

especially that southpark style cartoon "History of America", which was so bigoted and one sided it prompted me to throw things at the television.

But on the other hand, it made some very good points apart from its bigoted, sensationalist side. I was very fascinated with the whole Canada thing... Seeing that movie really made me want to move there.

All in all, I say that as long as it is watched with the facts in mind and a keen eye for BS, Bowling for Columbine is at the leasty enetertaining and at the most slightly informative.

PS- my favorite part was the Marylin Manson interview- classic! Mr. Manson really showcased his intelligence on that one.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1898978 - 09/09/03 06:27 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I'd enjoy beating that doughboy fatass beefytits motherfucker around some. Stupid fat bastard. I can't stand slovenly, pissed off, liberal fatasses. What a shitty combination. I wish that he would have been in NYC on 9/11


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: lysergic]
    #1899335 - 09/09/03 07:46 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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I wish that he would have been in NYC on 9/11




Wow, that was a pretty fucking stupid thing to say. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1899837 - 09/09/03 09:30 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

innvertigo - You could either interpret that as me saying I wish he died, or as me saying that I wish he firsthand got to see what happened there so he might hate "white men" a little less.


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