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Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media
    #1892577 - 09/08/03 01:30 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

What a shock, Micheal Moore lied and manipulated the people that watched this movie. If liberals are right, why do they have to lie all the time?


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: lysergic]
    #1892591 - 09/08/03 01:33 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I can't stand Moore. What a pompus jackass. Candadian Bacon was good though...


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: lysergic]
    #1893169 - 09/08/03 06:46 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

MICHAEL MOORE IS A TWO BIT HACK LIBERAL PROPOGANDIST ASSHOLE.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: lysergic]
    #1893171 - 09/08/03 06:51 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I never get tired of hearing how pathetic Michael Moore is, no matterhow many times it is repeated. LearyFan is in love with the man.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: lysergic]
    #1893261 - 09/08/03 09:12 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

lysergic said:
http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

What a shock, Micheal Moore lied and manipulated the people that watched this movie. If liberals are right, why do they have to lie all the time?



That's the biggest sweeping statement I've ever heard. Just because one liberal lies that means ALL liberals are liars? I guess that means all Republican presidents are liars because Nixon was, then?
I liked Bowling for Columbine - it may be flawed, it may be sensationalist but the point behind it about the fear-mongering of the American media, and the fact that he didn't just settle for the banning guns rhetoric made it a worthwhile film as far as I'm concerned.
Just like most people with any agenda, they skewer the truth to fit what they expect or what they believe, just like many people do with statistics, often subconsciously. That's why it pays to skeptical. But don't say all liberals are liars just because Moore lied in Bowling for Columbine. That's a ridiculous generalisation.

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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1893265 - 09/08/03 09:17 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

It was a generalisation, but have you actually read the information. Bowling for Columbine was a complete fabrication, the part it describes was literally put together sentence by sentence it is completely misleading.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #1893290 - 09/08/03 09:35 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, well admittedly, there are alot more lies than I expected, I don't know who to trust to be honest because I haven't heard any defense of the accusations sot hey might be bollocks too. I still like Moore though, I think the Awful Truth is great. He has the difficult job of trying to make politics interesting and palatable for the masses. It's the same with Stupid White Men, I guess - it's a good book but I don't believe everything that's in it. I agree though that if he knowingly lies that is pretty fucking low considering what he preaches about.

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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1893307 - 09/08/03 09:42 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Knowingly lied would be an understatement, he has meticulously spliced sentences together from speeches made in different places a year apart. It would be like me taking segments from each of your posts, quoting it as an actual statement you made, then portraying you as a fanatical Nazi....

He is simply a hypocrite, that like the media distorts the truth for their own agenda.



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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #1893331 - 09/08/03 09:54 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Haha, like Chris Morris did with the Bush speeches? That's pretty fucking bad, actually if that's true.

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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1893453 - 09/08/03 11:00 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Why are people getting so worked up over a movie anyways?


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: Edame]
    #1893473 - 09/08/03 11:06 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe because Moore tries to portray lies, as fact in it?


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: Edame]
    #1893478 - 09/08/03 11:08 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

And for the simple fact that some people use his work to justify their arguments lol


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: lysergic]
    #1893797 - 09/08/03 12:49 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Read this for a good laugh concerning Captain Fiction.

Moore Watch


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1893846 - 09/08/03 01:04 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Innvertigo said:
Read this for a good laugh concerning Captain Fiction.

Moore Watch



A priceless find.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: lysergic]
    #1893922 - 09/08/03 01:30 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I usually take things I read on the internet as "fact" with a few grains of salt. Like the single link you posted above.

A world viewed movie would seem to be a better place to find facts. Especially as it was backed by millions of people.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: angryshroom]
    #1893934 - 09/08/03 01:35 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

How was it 'backed by millions of people'? Just because they watched it? I can probably convince a million dumbasses that dog turds taste good. That doesn't mean it is true.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: angryshroom]
    #1893942 - 09/08/03 01:36 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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A world viewed movie would seem to be a better place to find facts.



So the more people who view a movie the more truth there is in it?
I guess that means there really are wicked witches, cowardly lions, and walking tin men since the Wizard of Oz is one of the most viewed movies in history.


Quite a silly thing for you to say. There are many web sites which go through that lying fuckwads movie and show where all the bits and pieces that Moore pieced together actually came from.

Face it, the libbie darling Moore is a lying tub of shit. He's as worthless as his movie is.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1894217 - 09/08/03 02:49 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I think that Micheal Moore is a typical self-hating liberal. Years of "whitey is a bad man" TV has caught on, and now it's kinda chic to hate your own kind (as long as you are white, of course!). It's funny how people (and I mean everyone here) overlooks the fallacies of the parties/agendas that htey support, but jumps on others as soon as they make the mistake. Moore's books are as worthless and made-to-support-him as the movie was. If you have to lie or bend the truth to support your position, then you yourself can't believe your position. Moore has to understand that all of the stuff he put in the movie is incorrect, yet he still enjoys lying to himself. It would be as if I made a sound clip of singular words of Kofi Anan that said "The purpose of the UN is to commit genocide worldwide, gas Jews, and put weapons of mass destruction in the hands of Arab Extremists". I'd know that it wasn't true and that I fabricated it, so how could I have feelings about it? Micheal Moore is just another lying, media-controlling, liberal hebe.


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Re: Bowling For Columbine - Lying with the help of the Media [Re: angryshroom]
    #1894274 - 09/08/03 03:04 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)



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    #1894360 - 09/08/03 03:21 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

go read his website www.michaelmoore.com

what a fucking douchebag, i'd like to piss right in his fucking mouth.


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