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luketonystan
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Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? *DELETED*
#18925067 - 10/03/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: luketonystan]
#18925074 - 10/03/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: luketonystan]
#18925082 - 10/03/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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luketonystan said: can you just eat away like liberty caps,??
No, they are toxic
Amanita are not for me
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luketonystan
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: paracelsus]
#18925100 - 10/03/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yep. Which is why I'm asking for advice and info.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: luketonystan]
#18925121 - 10/03/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, but most people who have done them say its not even worth it.. very unpleasant. However, that has not stopped me from wanting them badly
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: luketonystan]
#18925124 - 10/03/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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My advice is
Do more research
Take it out of the plastic bag
Wait for a TI
It must be cooked to convert chemicals.
I would rather huff gas
Use the search bar
Hashfinger is our active Amanita buff.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: paracelsus]
#18925161 - 10/03/13 09:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you could take good pictures of the stem and especially stem base just to make it easier to identify. If it is a. muscaria, you have a few choices... if you just want to eat them without any "trip" slice them into thick slices and boil them in water for 15 mins, drain water and replace with new water and boil another 10 mins or so... if you do want the trip, hash suggested this to me and I enjoy it very much (but its a personal preference) dry them to cracker dry, you should be able to snap the cap in half like a Cracker, and put them into a coffee grinder to grind them into powder. Take 3-5 grams of the powder and put into some tea or eggs. Put definitely do research and get those pics of the base of the stem and wait for a t.I. or hasfinger for sure. Enjoy and happy hunting!
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: art2312]
#18925197 - 10/03/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Assuming they are Amanita muscaria (which a nice picture of the vulva can clear up) you can make an extract with them using Isoproyl or grain alcohol. Then heat that to 180~ degrees to convert the acid to muscimol. Aswell as to evaporate your alcohol leaving behind some sludgey crud which you can freeze and turn into capsules for consumption.
Alternatively you can dry them in the oven or sun and then eat like Liberty Caps.
I did that extraction and had none of the bad effects such as vomiting and never wanting to try them again.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: luketonystan]
#18925205 - 10/03/13 10:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i hear smoking them has better affects than eating them
i havent dont any research on this myself, ive just heard of it
but i personally dont fuck with the amanita family
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: generalsherman55]
#18925213 - 10/03/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You're talking about peeling the skin from the cap and smoking that...its said to have a mild pot-like effect but it hasn't been proven, to my knowledge.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: art2312]
#18925220 - 10/03/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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sorry im new to this site and struggling with some of the terms haha
appreciate your replies guys. who/what is T.I? and who is hasfinger? should i inbox them about these?
im just been reading quite a bit on these kind of shrooms and a lot of folk are saying it was the first and last time theyre taking them, hmmmm... i really wanna try them but is it worth it? i had the most amazing experience of my life on liberty caps not long ago now and wondering if i can reach an even greater feeling through these..
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: lsms]
#18925226 - 10/03/13 10:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Isms, with that extraction method, how many grams did you consume? Do you have some sort of link for the method you're talking about? Sounds interesting
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: luketonystan]
#18925231 - 10/03/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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luketonystan said: sorry im new to this site and struggling with some of the terms haha
appreciate your replies guys. who/what is T.I? and who is hasfinger? should i inbox them about these?
im just been reading quite a bit on these kind of shrooms and a lot of folk are saying it was the first and last time theyre taking them, hmmmm... i really wanna try them but is it worth it? i had the most amazing experience of my life on liberty caps not long ago now and wondering if i can reach an even greater feeling through these..
i personally wouldn't
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: luketonystan]
#18925234 - 10/03/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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T.I. = Trusted Identifier. Hashfinger will see the post sooner or later (sooner rather than later).
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: art2312]
#18925237 - 10/03/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do research please...these are not "magic mushrooms" and a t.I. is a trusted identifier and hashfinger is a Guy on here that is more knowledgable than us on this subject
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: luketonystan]
#18925238 - 10/03/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alot of people love them. You can just munch them raw but it will be alot more pleasant if you cook them or dry at a certain heat so that the ibotenic acid is converted into muscimol externally instead of inside your digestive and detoxification systems.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: art2312]
#18925239 - 10/03/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Amanita do not have any psilocybin at all... these are completely different than the liberty caps you had.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: generalsherman55]
#18925254 - 10/03/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have smoked a bong pipe of the skins before, its not really the same as ingesting them. Its exactly like Art said a mild pot like buzz. He does not mention that all you can smell for the rest of the day is burnt mushroom on your hands though.
Amanita mushrooms are either coveted or hated by people. They aren't what I would consider psychedelic at all though. They should be given respect or they will indeed kick your ass.
I used 7.5 grams of amanita and did 2 washes of it with 70% Iso. One 6 hour and One 24 hour wash. The first wash yeilded 1.1 grams the second around .6 grams. as far as a tek for it, I was winging it going off what Forrester does in his double extraction method with some expiremental tweaks.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: art2312]
#18925255 - 10/03/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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art2312 said: Amanita do not have any psilocybin at all... these are completely different than the liberty caps you had.
yeah. when i first heard of smoking mushrooms i told dude that killed the psilocybin, and that he just imagined he got high.
but he explained fly agaric have a different toxin that isn't killed by the heat.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: generalsherman55]
#18925272 - 10/03/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Smoking amanitas is absolutely horrific. While they taste quite nice eating them, smoking is a different story entirely. And the taste NEVER leaves the smoking apparatus ruining it. I never got any effects smoking them.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: ZippyHippyinWA]
#18925284 - 10/03/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Amanita muscaria.
Whatever you do, slice them up and dry them quick or they are sure to turn soft and full of maggots.
They are beautiful finds!
I would like to see more pictures of them.
And yeah take them out of the bag.
One of the best tasting mushrooms I have ever eaten.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: ambc]
#18925300 - 10/03/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ambc said: Alot of people love them. You can just munch them raw but it will be alot more pleasant if you cook them or dry at a certain heat so that the ibotenic acid is converted into muscimol externally instead of inside your digestive and detoxification systems.

What he said
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: art2312]
#18925306 - 10/03/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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art2312 said: Isms, with that extraction method, how many grams did you consume? Do you have some sort of link for the method you're talking about? Sounds interesting
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18845747
I pretty much followed that except that I didn't use any heat until after I evaporated the alcohol in a pyrex dish under a fan. Also I didn't use any water except the 70% iso 30% water isopropyl alcohol.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Ganzig]
#18925315 - 10/03/13 10:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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But whatever you do, please, get some pictures up and don't consume anything until you get it I.d. for sure. Amanitas need respect or like already said, they will kick your ass...or worse. @Isms, thank you sir! Much appreciated
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: ZippyHippyinWA]
#18925327 - 10/03/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ZippyHippyinWA said: Smoking amanitas is absolutely horrific. While they taste quite nice eating them, smoking is a different story entirely. And the taste NEVER leaves the smoking apparatus ruining it. I never got any effects smoking them.
lol. and the guy who told me it had the exact opposite opinion. very interesting
he hated the test and affects from eating them
but loved smoking them and the more mellow high and better flavor
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: generalsherman55]
#18925340 - 10/03/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah im not one of them thats gunna dive and do something silly. thats why im on here researching because i do respect them for what they are. they probably wont get eat to be fair there is to many mixed replies and information on the web.
ive got more pics. ill put them on now
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: generalsherman55]
#18925347 - 10/03/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol...you sure he's not just feeling the pot-like feeling from the actual pot resin in the pipe he is smoking it from? I've talked to a couple people that said they felt the mild pot-like high from smoking the skins, but they are smoking it out of a bowl they have put pot in for a year lol... could just be the resins heating up and that is giving you the high. Or I could be wrong... I'm not going to ruin my pipes to find out tho lol
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: art2312]
#18925355 - 10/03/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have been trying to figure out the best ways to do extractions as I am a total baby about getting belly aches. I've read that you can get rid of the sticky compounds in some extractions by using Acetone or Hexane which would be cool so you could make actual capsules not just balls of frozen goop.
I think Stamet does this in the "Crystals of the Gods" extraction with psilocybin mushrooms. Though every mushroom is different so its pretty hard to get a solid tek that works well for everything. Not being a scientist doesn't help either.
Anything you find that works well do let me know. I can write up a tek for the Amanita extraction if you'd like. Maybe it will help get rid of the bad rep, I could just be one of the lucky few who enjoy Amanita. I definitely enjoyed the extraction over smoking them though. I didn't get Amanita taste left in my bong after I used that, it was clean to begin with though. Maybe try cleaning your pipe with some Isopropyl alcohol(is there anything you can't use this shit for) to get the taste out and have a sparkly clean pipe.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: art2312]
#18925386 - 10/03/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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art2312 said: Lol...you sure he's not just feeling the pot-like feeling from the actual pot resin in the pipe he is smoking it from? I've talked to a couple people that said they felt the mild pot-like high from smoking the skins, but they are smoking it out of a bowl they have put pot in for a year lol... could just be the resins heating up and that is giving you the high. Or I could be wrong... I'm not going to ruin my pipes to find out tho lol 
maybe. not if he was a californian though. resin wont get a californian high cos your average cali stoner smokes essentially a pack of day of weed
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: luketonystan]
#18925400 - 10/03/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: luketonystan]
#18925407 - 10/03/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: luketonystan]
#18925410 - 10/03/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Damn those are pretty.
If you don't want to trip out but still want to enjoy them you can.
You should because they are tasty.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Ganzig]
#18925440 - 10/03/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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A tek could be very cool... I love amanita, personally. Culinary and otherwise. Very nice find! You should most definitely cook it, if nothing else! Mmmm
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Ganzig]
#18925452 - 10/03/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Really! What like a bacon and mushroom butty? haha
If i was to eat them for pure tastyness how would i go about it?
Also if i wanted to trip whats the best way dude??
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: luketonystan]
#18925605 - 10/03/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The bad reputation probably comes from people looking to get high in a typical way and find themselves disappointed when it is something completely different.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Untitled]
#18925907 - 10/03/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Apparently ibotenic acid acts as a flavor enhancer similar to MSG, which is why they are delicious. (Well, everyone says so---I haven't tried it. But it makes sense chemically.) So it's not obvious to me that you can leach out the active components without compromising the tastiness. Can someone who's actually eaten them comment on this?
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: thiotimoline]
#18925925 - 10/03/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is it the acid that acts as the msg in them? If so it seems that the boiling in water first would get rid of the msg effect.
Wrote this up for your Art, if I missed anything or something is confusing do let me know. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18925908
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: luketonystan]
#18925997 - 10/03/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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luketonystan said: Really! What like a bacon and mushroom butty? haha
If i was to eat them for pure tastyness how would i go about it?
Also if i wanted to trip whats the best way dude??

The video I posted is about exactly that.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Ganzig]
#18926014 - 10/03/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Putting them on some stairs is a great way to trip on them. 
Or you could try the extraction I posted.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: lsms]
#18926023 - 10/03/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Putting them on some stairs is a great way to trip on them
I see what you did there.
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Re: Could you please correct me if I'm wrong but this is surely an Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Untitled]
#18926716 - 10/03/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Untitled said: The bad reputation probably comes from people looking to get high in a typical way and find themselves disappointed when it is something completely different.
Very true. With the body load it is a much better spiritual than recreational mushie. Personally, I think 2 caps about that size (1 1/2 if larger) in the oven @160 for 1-2 hours then eat (i weigh 195) or tea is best. Its pretty tasty.
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