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OfflineXUL
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Marijuana and Other Drugs
    #18919252 - 10/02/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Do you believe marijuana should be legalized throughout the states? Why? Why not? How might it effect our society and the laws which uphold it?

Should alcohol be banned?

Should alcohol be legalized for 18 year olds? How about 16 year olds? How does Europe compare to America when it comes to alcohol problems in society.


What is your position?


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Re: Marijuana and Other Drugs [Re: XUL]
    #18919274 - 10/02/13 12:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

People should be allowed to put whatever substances they like into their bodies.

The end.


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Re: Marijuana and Other Drugs [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18919526 - 10/02/13 03:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Not sure what it's like in the US, but in mainland Europe alcohol laws are fairly relaxed.  In France and other countries teenagers can buy beer and wine age 16 (but not spirits until 18).  It's part of their culture.  Kids grow up being allowed to have a glass of wine at the dinner table etc.

However, in the UK it's totally different. We must be the binge-drinking capital of the world.  The general idea is on a Friday night one should go out and drink as much alcohol as is humanly possible and end up in a bar fight or half dead in the morning with a hangover.  I'm not sure why that is the culture here.  You are allowed to buy alcohol from 18, but unlike mainland Europe, it's not really something that's offered at dinner tables to youngsters so much.  But beyond that I'm not sure why us Brits are so boozy. 

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People should be allowed to put whatever substances they like into their bodies.

The end.




This pretty much sums it up, although I've always thought there should be some kind of "licence" or course you have to pass to ensure you understand the effects and risks of taking certain substances, like a driving test.


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Re: Marijuana and Other Drugs [Re: XUL]
    #18920125 - 10/02/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm basing this off Australians and certain Balkan cultures which are both heavily fueled by alcohol, i wouldn't know about much about America, Western Europe or Scandinavia.

Generally speaking Europeans tend to savor their drinking a bit more and use the drug very much in combination with food and socialization as do all cultures though IMO the difference is on the emphasis. The Average Australian, drinks purely to get wasted every weekend in a very messy binge, whereas the Europeans drink more often so they have gained more Tolerance with the drug and in turn are actually wasted alot of the time but it doesn't show as much.

Exceptions to rule defiantly apply , Tolerant drinkers exist in the West and not all European drink frequently.

Alcohol is Legal for 18 year old's in Aus but most kids start binging before that anywhere in between 13-16 years of age. It is a valid excuse to make an absolute pig out of yourself and be Glorified for your violent en-devours.

Similar conclusions to PockeyLady, and as Australians originate from United Kingdom its no shocker.


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Re: Marijuana and Other Drugs [Re: XUL]
    #18921529 - 10/02/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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XUL said:
Do you believe marijuana should be legalized throughout the states? Why? Why not? How might it effect our society and the laws which uphold it?



Yes I do. Because, strangely, I don't support throwing people into cages for ingesting substances of their choice. Especially when doing so has absolutely no effect on rates of drug usage/addiction and is a huge drain on the taxpayer.

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Should alcohol be banned?



Nope, see above.

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Should alcohol be legalized for 18 year olds? How about 16 year olds? How does Europe compare to America when it comes to alcohol problems in society.



Not sure how the US compares to Europe in that regard, but I'd say that if you're allowed to vote at age 18, you should also be able to smoke/drink whatever you want.


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What is your position?



Well, basically my position is that we'd be better off without laws/government in general. But, since people INSIST on being ruled by SOMEbody, I'll just have to go with "legalize all drugs and alcohol for anyone over age 18."


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Re: Marijuana and Other Drugs [Re: NetDiver]
    #18923596 - 10/02/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think... every 18 year old should be dosed with a huge amount of acid before being allowed to speak.

Their first words as an adult should be DESCRIBING WTF JUST HAPPENED lol.

Pot should definitely be made legal... but so too all other drugs. I think addictive ones are bad... but compromising is too. I would suggest all psychedelics...

I wish we could eradicate meth heroine and the like... it sucks we need some of them for medicinal purposes... Maybe just the addictive nature of all drugs in general? Take it from an educational or spiritual perspective.


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Re: Marijuana and Other Drugs [Re: MuffinShroomMan]
    #18924213 - 10/03/13 01:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

For some Meth is used "spirituality".  I love the opiates and see nothing wrong in them.  Just because some people can't handle something is no reason to eradicate it.  Many people shouldn't take acid either.


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Re: Marijuana and Other Drugs [Re: Icelander]
    #18924389 - 10/03/13 03:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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For some Meth is used "spirituality".  I love the opiates and see nothing wrong in them.  Just because some people can't handle something is no reason to eradicate it.  Many people shouldn't take acid either.





Really? Meth? I've done the evil drug 3 times... the only feelings I got were extreme energy... and extreme addiction.

What kind of feelings do others get?


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Re: Marijuana and Other Drugs [Re: MuffinShroomMan]
    #18924431 - 10/03/13 03:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry dude but your the 'evil' one seeing as you have smoked Meth 3 times, I'm willing to bet handsomely that Meth never even smoked you once!

Actually i don't think Meth ever smoked anybody the same way a Gun never killed anyone, however there is a common denominator amongst all these so called 'evil' destructive products, true?


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Re: Marijuana and Other Drugs [Re: Withinity]
    #18924471 - 10/03/13 04:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Sorry dude but your the 'evil' one seeing as you have smoked Meth 3 times, I'm willing to bet handsomely that Meth never even smoked you once!

Actually i don't think Meth ever smoked anybody the same way a Gun never killed anyone, however there is a common denominator amongst all these so called 'evil' destructive products, true?




Sorry for dissing your passtime bud. To each their own. I'm just curious what other people got from the drug that I failed to see.


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Re: Marijuana and Other Drugs [Re: XUL]
    #18924541 - 10/03/13 05:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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XUL said:
Do you believe marijuana should be legalized throughout the states? Why? Why not? How might it effect our society and the laws which uphold it?

Should alcohol be banned?

Should alcohol be legalized for 18 year olds? How about 16 year olds? How does Europe compare to America when it comes to alcohol problems in society.


What is your position?






Opium, cocaine, cannabis...

In Dutch we have a word that would literally translate to "Substance that puts one in intoxication"; we are but users of these substances, not criminals.

Pure discrimination and racism.

I wish we had closed social clubs for all; only entry through reference of other members or by examination of a doctor.


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Re: Marijuana and Other Drugs [Re: MuffinShroomMan]
    #18924661 - 10/03/13 06:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have never even tried Meth let alone it being a pastime , I do not advocate its usage. Though i would not blame the substance itself rather than the abuser of the substance , that is all i was trying to get across by pointing out that nothing is inherently good or evil.

What would you think if someone came along and started saying Spoons were evil just because they knew it was possible to dig out somebody eyes with one in a situation of Torture.

One could even argue that Vehicles are portable bombs with nothing but a few symbols and lines keeping them from exploding, but if you don't want to blow shit up and cause potential harm to yourself and others you will take those symbols into consideration.

Care, the Shards still may make a victim out of you yet friend.


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Re: Marijuana and Other Drugs [Re: Withinity]
    #18924695 - 10/03/13 06:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I have never even tried Meth let alone it being a pastime , I do not advocate its usage. Though i would not blame the substance itself rather than the abuser of the substance , that is all i was trying to get across by pointing out that nothing is inherently good or evil.

What would you think if someone came along and started saying Spoons were evil just because they knew it was possible to dig out somebody eyes with one in a situation of Torture.

One could even argue that Vehicles are portable bombs with nothing but a few symbols and lines keeping them from exploding, but if you don't want to blow shit up and cause potential harm to yourself and others you will take those symbols into consideration.

Care, the Shards still may make a victim out of you yet friend.





I suppose me using the term evil is really from an opinion stand point. When I used it... I felt evil from it. Something about it... just... overpowering evil. Thats how I define it lol.

I never experienced a high that quick... and an addictive quality that profound and that fast... the moment the smoke touched my tongue I could feel its leash around my neck... pulling me downward... saying SMOKE ME MORE... I took 6 or 7 big puffs... and got twirky and energetic for a long long time.

I was wondering how that kind of feeling can be seen as spiritual. What someone who uses meth from a spiritual standpoint sees that I don't see. And still am. Lol. I was asking Icelander in all honesty.


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Re: Marijuana and Other Drugs [Re: MuffinShroomMan]
    #18924801 - 10/03/13 07:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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For some Meth is used "spirituality".  I love the opiates and see nothing wrong in them.  Just because some people can't handle something is no reason to eradicate it.  Many people shouldn't take acid either.





Really? Meth? I've done the evil drug 3 times... the only feelings I got were extreme energy... and extreme addiction.

What kind of feelings do others get?





Others, according to them, feel those same things and more and dive in to explore that side of themselves.  That's really what spirituality is imo.  The courage to know and explore all aspects of the self.


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Re: Marijuana and Other Drugs [Re: Icelander]
    #18925042 - 10/03/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Icelander said:
For some Meth is used "spirituality".  I love the opiates and see nothing wrong in them.  Just because some people can't handle something is no reason to eradicate it.  Many people shouldn't take acid either.





Really? Meth? I've done the evil drug 3 times... the only feelings I got were extreme energy... and extreme addiction.

What kind of feelings do others get?





Others, according to them, feel those same things and more and dive in to explore that side of themselves.  That's really what spirituality is imo.  The courage to know and explore all aspects of the self.




Interesting. Never thought of it that way to be honest... actually enjoying being.... whatever you call it... I want to say addiction but I'm sure that word is being used wrong.


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Re: Marijuana and Other Drugs [Re: MuffinShroomMan]
    #18925046 - 10/03/13 09:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Not everyone gets addicted to those substances.  So can take and leave them when they choose.  Some are too weak willed for that.


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