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Re: Cyclic [Re: MuffinShroomMan]
    #18924192 - 10/03/13 01:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Check out Ernest Becker and his book Denial of Death.  You might find it enlightening and a possible answer to many of the questions you just posed.


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Re: Cyclic [Re: MuffinShroomMan]
    #18924199 - 10/03/13 01:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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MuffinShroomMan said:
I've always been better than everyone my age intellectually.... and always sound arrogant to more aged veterans who seem to have experienced everything I have... and every attempt for those more intellectually advanced to "show me the light" have been blocked by my impervious ability to out logic any ideology that comes into play.



This was the part that I found pretty egotistical. OP isn't better than everyone his own age intellectually, that's pure ego talking. So is this claim about the "ability to out logic any ideology." Again, very egotistical.

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How? When you know it is what is encoded in your DNA....




Being egotistical isn't encoded in anyone's DNA.


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Re: Cyclic [Re: nooneman]
    #18924206 - 10/03/13 01:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think being egotistical is encoded in our genetic makeup.  We are designed that way.  That doesn't mean it's going to play out the same for everyone.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Cyclic [Re: Icelander]
    #18924212 - 10/03/13 01:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The human race has a flaw.... and that flaw is selfishness..

Duh!  This is old news around here for many of us.  Yet I can't see it as a "flaw" except subjectively.  All life is selfish it seems and that insures it's survival and chances at procreation.  If there's a problem it's with how nature itself operates. We are doing what we were designed to do.





Why? Why do we have to do what we are designed to do?

Why can't we fight it? I've always thought I could fight it. I've always managed to fight it. Emotion. Popularity. Fitting in.

None of it as ever mattered to me. I've fought the waves my whole life... and now...

Now I just think... I can't work part time.... I can't make "just enough"... I have to support her... make her happy... make her have things...

And she doesnt even share my ideals! Shes CHRISTIAN! WTF! She HATES pot. She says it makes everything seem better and she DOESNT like that! I'm trying to get her to do shrooms... now her reasoning is shes afraid of what might happen to ME! Like I cant handle my drugs!

I've given her a poor example... ive lost my shit. She made me do it.... and I can't show her...




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Icelander said:
Check out Ernest Becker and his book Denial of Death.  You might find it enlightening and a possible answer to many of the questions you just posed.




Adding that to my book list. Wikipedia's description sounds really good.


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For every 10 trolls you give advice to... 1 will listen.


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Re: Cyclic [Re: MuffinShroomMan]
    #18924218 - 10/03/13 01:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can fight it but you can't win against nature.  You can only do what you are designed to do.  You can do nothing outside your design. That's basic logic.  That's why rocks can't levitate. :lol:

And imo you and this woman won't last.  You are too different but she's got you by the emotional and physical balls right now and you are having a hard time groking the reality of the situation.

Every young kid thinks that because a woman "believes" in him he needs to support her lifestyle and make her happy. This my friend is the royal road to ruin. 


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Cyclic [Re: Icelander]
    #18924246 - 10/03/13 01:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I know at this point... every young kid argues why they are different.... and I suppose I'm not different....

But I will say I've been with her since middle school on and off... and ages ago she cheated on me... and she came back... ever since I've been aloof from the relationship... just being there... smoking dope... dropping acid... doing shrooms... whatever I can get my hands on...

And a few months ago.... something cracked.... and I threw all the drugs out... laid next to her... and she spoke... she wasn't saying anything important... just some words here and there.... but I heard her in a different way.... I cared so much about what she had to say.... I remember exactly what she said too...

"What was that sound?" I say nothing. "Whats wrong?" I say nothing.

And we went to sleep. It was magical... I cant explain it.... it blows my fucking mind.

The next morning my dad was in my house and in my bed waking me up to an intervention. My whole family was there. My room mate... and my girl too. I told them all to go fuck themselves... and they called the police... I told the police to go fuck themselves and to leave me alone... and I went to the psychward.

It has been a crazy ride.


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For every trolls head you sever... 10 more will spawn in its place.
For every 10 trolls you give advice to... 1 will listen.


Special thanks to shroompuncher for making the cool pic <3


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Re: Cyclic [Re: Icelander]
    #18924251 - 10/03/13 01:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The answer is what I call the forum government. this type of government would work just like this very forum, this type of community on shroomery shares ideas, peacefully debates topics, we all grow from the knowledge we read on the shroomery. This type of society is being created right before your very eyes! All you need is patience, maybe a life time or 2 of it but the human race will straighten its self out in the end or else the race will perish in violence! Look at evolution around you on a broad scale. the human is really the only species that is at war with itself. Every other being is at peace, everybody works together, everybody is happy! The answer your looking for is right in front of you you just have to look for it a little deeper!:grin:


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Re: Cyclic [Re: MuffinShroomMan]
    #18924264 - 10/03/13 02:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Edit


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For every trolls head you sever... 10 more will spawn in its place.
For every 10 trolls you give advice to... 1 will listen.


Special thanks to shroompuncher for making the cool pic <3


Edited by MuffinShroomMan (10/03/13 02:59 AM)


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Re: Cyclic [Re: MuffinShroomMan]
    #18924270 - 10/03/13 02:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I need pot... i need shrooms.. alcohol isnt doing it for me... im trying so hard to not do anything... i need a job.... i cant have drugs in my system... but i need pot so bad... one text and i could have it... just one text and this will all be old news...

fuck this shit to fucking hell......

shrooms arent anywhere... i need to grow shrooms... i need shrooms again... shrooms dont show up on a drug test....


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"Mein Fuhrer!!!! I can WALK!!!!"



For every trolls head you sever... 10 more will spawn in its place.
For every 10 trolls you give advice to... 1 will listen.


Special thanks to shroompuncher for making the cool pic <3


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Re: Cyclic [Re: MuffinShroomMan]
    #18924276 - 10/03/13 02:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I told the police to go fuck themselves and to leave me alone... and I went to the psychward.





Pardon my blunt observation, but that does not seem like the action of a man more brilliant than those around him.

Just sayin...


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Re: Cyclic [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #18924284 - 10/03/13 02:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Quote:

I told the police to go fuck themselves and to leave me alone... and I went to the psychward.





Pardon my blunt observation, but that does not seem like the action of a man more brilliant than those around him.

Just sayin...




I didn't literally say go fuck yourself... when the police came... I was polite... i was cordial.. and they just fucking... they just fucking beat me. I cant explain it... I was the only X in the room full of Y's... so of course I lost.


Also I typed that whole thing in a rage of flashing fingers.... I have many other complete works when it was fresh on my mind...

I just get... so... god damn angry when i think about it. And its so hard NOT to think about. Seeing these GOD DAMN BILLS IN FRONT OF ME from these got damn TYRANTS. Thinking of all the other WASTED LIVES in there that CANT BE SAVED...


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"Mein Fuhrer!!!! I can WALK!!!!"



For every trolls head you sever... 10 more will spawn in its place.
For every 10 trolls you give advice to... 1 will listen.


Special thanks to shroompuncher for making the cool pic <3


Edited by MuffinShroomMan (10/03/13 02:23 AM)


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Re: Cyclic [Re: MuffinShroomMan]
    #18924292 - 10/03/13 02:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

^ That's police brutality pure and simple. You don't need anything. It's only the thinking you need something, society telling you what you need, that is sending you into despair. Listen to your own heart.


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Re: Cyclic [Re: cheeshcat]
    #18924300 - 10/03/13 02:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What do you do when it happens to you? Seriously. I sound like a maniac to anyone and everyone. I sound like I deserved what I got... but I didn't! I was fucking in my OWN god damn house... minding my OWN god damn business... not hurting ANYONE... I'm not suicidal... never cut myself... never done ANYTHING stupid... and these FUCKS... my FAMILY the POLICE and the psych ward.... the doctors....

I just cant believe it... I just cant. It cant be real. I have to wake up.


I've lost my humanity... I've lost my philosophy... I've lost my edge... all I am is another cyclic piece of shit... I'm just like anyone else... trapped in a loop. The question is when will I submit... when will I give in... fall prey to society... or nature... whatever it is...


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For every trolls head you sever... 10 more will spawn in its place.
For every 10 trolls you give advice to... 1 will listen.


Special thanks to shroompuncher for making the cool pic <3


Edited by MuffinShroomMan (10/03/13 02:32 AM)


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Re: Cyclic [Re: MuffinShroomMan]
    #18924345 - 10/03/13 02:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Must I choose therapy? Can I not delve deeper into the rabit hole? Am I not strong enough? Can I not handle my shit?

The only times I lose my shit is when you take my pot away. That withdrawal.... it kills me. Its my coping mechanism....

Cigarettes and booze dont work... I need my pot.

I love shrooms... acid is a crazy temptress that I need further experiences of.... to harness whatever power it is... that evil.... that bit of evil you feel... that SINGE of FREEZING COLD CHILL up your spine... something about it..... something about it...


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"Mein Fuhrer!!!! I can WALK!!!!"



For every trolls head you sever... 10 more will spawn in its place.
For every 10 trolls you give advice to... 1 will listen.


Special thanks to shroompuncher for making the cool pic <3


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Re: Cyclic [Re: MuffinShroomMan]
    #18924349 - 10/03/13 02:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

MY GOD LETS TALK ABOUT ACID! LOL

That moment... when you're outside.... 1 AM ... walking back from walmart... smokes in hand.... and you realize you've been staring at a lamp post for god knows how long.... and you burst out into laughter...

Thats when you know that 20 bucks was worth it :smile:


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"Mein Fuhrer!!!! I can WALK!!!!"



For every trolls head you sever... 10 more will spawn in its place.
For every 10 trolls you give advice to... 1 will listen.


Special thanks to shroompuncher for making the cool pic <3


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Re: Cyclic [Re: MuffinShroomMan]
    #18924377 - 10/03/13 03:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry guys... ruined a good debate with my own problems... i accept defeat. We are nature. Cant fight it... cant avoid it... Peace simply cannot win when we are not peaceful by nature

We are encoded into our DNA with what we are going to do... we have the ability to vary from the path... though the most at home we will ever feel is when we go with the path we have been made to go on.

Drugs are merely an escape from death just like god and jobs... and knowledge... and fame... and wealth... and power... and women and kids.


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"Mein Fuhrer!!!! I can WALK!!!!"



For every trolls head you sever... 10 more will spawn in its place.
For every 10 trolls you give advice to... 1 will listen.


Special thanks to shroompuncher for making the cool pic <3


Edited by MuffinShroomMan (10/03/13 03:05 AM)


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Re: Cyclic [Re: MuffinShroomMan]
    #18924418 - 10/03/13 03:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

We are peaceful by nature. the end


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Re: Cyclic [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #18924689 - 10/03/13 06:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:thumbup:

I see little in the ops posts to warrant his views on himself.  He's been hanging out with a very dumb crowd and his family most likely and of course then he sees himself as a genius.  (compared to them he likely is)


All the normal illusions and poor conclusions of youth are being made here imo.

Conclusion = Youthful folly.


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Re: Cyclic [Re: cheeshcat]
    #18924774 - 10/03/13 07:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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cheeshcat said:
We are peaceful by nature. the end




Would you not say it's a necessity for the organism to cause ruin, injury and or pain to survive?

According to the dictionary we're evil which is hard to disagree with when observing human nature.

Evil:

2. Causing ruin, injury, or pain

Legal dictionary.


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Re: Cyclic [Re: liquidlounge]
    #18924782 - 10/03/13 07:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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MuffinShroomMan said:
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Well then, your question about peace and love has been answered. :mypleasure:




So the answer is... we are an infection that can never change? Seriously?


Edit:

I'm sorry but I refuse to end it there. We need the nuclear war. We need an apocalypse. We need an answer. Reboot! REBOOT! Wheres the god damn button! I'll press the fuck out of it.




Form infracommunity on another host/find another planet to spread social parasitism.

Or die :yesnod:


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