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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: Enlil]
    #18923134 - 10/02/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

does this mean the government finally hacked it and was actually able to shut it down? I find that hard to believe considering 3.6 million could probably buy the best hackers (security) for the site in the world. I believe they made a deal with the man to have him shut it down. (keep your money just shut the website down...no prison time...something)


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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs' busted by the FBI (POST IN THIS THREAD, DON'T MAKE A NEW ONE) [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18923167 - 10/02/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

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Not surprised in the least the way all you little chatterboxes talk about it as if it's invincible and stuff. I've been telling people to hush about it for a couple years now and I was always dismissed.

That said, I sure do love my garden.




Well, once it had it's own wikipedia page(including we address) and major internet sites posting articles about it, there really was no reason to pretend it didn't exist.

This will happen again and again and I am sure the man already knows about the other similar sites.

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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs' busted by the FBI (POST IN THIS THREAD, DON'T MAKE A NEW ONE) [Re: snoot]
    #18923240 - 10/02/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

This whole fiasco is highly amusing.


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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: Enlil] * 5
    #18923241 - 10/02/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

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It's not ludicrous to expect people to pay their fair share to the government for the services they provide.  That's what I expect from everyone, whether their living is made illegally or not.

If they can't earn their living without fucking over everyone else, they should find another profession.

It's not like it's difficult.  Any drug dealer could declare their income as gambling winnings and no one would raise an eyebrow.  They don't do it because they don't want to pay taxes...plain and simple.




Your ideals are fucking ludicrous.  I honestly think you are the only person here that believes the horse shit that you are typing.  He's going to prison for the rest of his life, who the fuck does he owe anything to?  With that type of risk, you don't owe shit, and you are retarded to think that he does.


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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: fapjack]
    #18923254 - 10/02/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

can someone please answer my focking question


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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: berdinwall]
    #18923259 - 10/02/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Your question is already answered like 100 times today in the various threads here.  They got him by mistakes he made over the years, not because of anything he did.  Him getting busted had nothing to do with Tor (as far as anyone knows yet.)


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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: berdinwall]
    #18923268 - 10/02/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

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berdinwall said:
does this mean the government finally hacked it and was actually able to shut it down? I find that hard to believe considering 3.6 million could probably buy the best hackers (security) for the site in the world. I believe they made a deal with the man to have him shut it down. (keep your money just shut the website down...no prison time...something)




If you read the criminal complaint / search warrant it's evident they caught him because he slipped up. It's not because TOR is unreliable or something. Hidden service seizures are usually because or user error (or in the case of Freedom hosting - a virus which also goes back to user error).


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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: fapjack]
    #18923271 - 10/02/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

This was so predicted... As soon as he went global with Forbes and going for interviews... THE FUCK?!?!


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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: fapjack]
    #18923274 - 10/02/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

still doesn't answer my question... the website supposedly could not be shutdown...whether the owner was caught or not...and theoretically that sounds correct. seems like the show would go on with or without the owner.


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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: berdinwall]
    #18923275 - 10/02/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

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berdinwall said:
can someone please answer my focking question




Read this for a more detailed answer but no, it does not sound like they got him by hacking the site.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/172768269/Ulbricht-Criminal-Complaint

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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs' busted by the FBI (POST IN THIS THREAD, DON'T MAKE A NEW ONE) [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18923385 - 10/02/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

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nicechrisman said:
Not surprised in the least the way all you little chatterboxes talk about it as if it's invincible and stuff. I've been telling people to hush about it for a couple years now and I was always dismissed.

That said, I sure do love my garden.



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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: berdinwall] * 1
    #18923701 - 10/02/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

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berdinwall said:
still doesn't answer my question... the website supposedly could not be shutdown...whether the owner was caught or not...and theoretically that sounds correct. seems like the show would go on with or without the owner.



Quote:

berdinwall said:
still doesn't answer my question... the website supposedly could not be shutdown...whether the owner was caught or not...and theoretically that sounds correct. seems like the show would go on with or without the owner.



The owner was caught, because he slipped up, not because the security was compromised.
If the owner goes down, of course the site goes down. How else would it be ran? And since they have him, they have access to all his personal info, and whatever they don't have, they could easily get it out of him by making a sort of "deal" like lessening his sentence.

Got it now?


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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18923768 - 10/02/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
    #18923802 - 10/02/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Me too.

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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #18923998 - 10/02/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Well the plot thickens.

Someone posted another legal document besides the original one that hit the news. Clearly I cannot vouch for its authenticity, but I see little reason to doubt it.

Document can be found here: PDF [archive.org]

I originally thought he was cleverly bartering with the 80k for a prior hit, but apparently that "happened" except it was an undercover (UC) staged hit on a former silk road moderator.

While the other document is on a fairly short time frame in 2013, this one is talking about communication with an undercover since April 2012 really kicking up around December 2012.

Quick Summary:
  • UC begins contacting DPR in April 2012 posing a major source
  • In December 2012 UC convinces DPR to look for a vendor who wants to buy large quantities
  • DPR quickly finds an existing and established vendor for UC
  • DPR hands off situation to a silk road employee who puts UC and Vendor in contact
  • Vendor agrees to buy 1 kg of cocaine from the UC through silkroad and has the kg sent to the employee's address (apparently to be re-shipped)
  • On January 17, 2013 Feds make UC delivery to employee and wait for him to confirm the receipt on SR (the 1kg was worth ~27k)
  • On January 26, 2013 DPR informs the UC that the employee was arrested by LE and has stolen funds from SR users. Asks UC to beat the employee up and return the funds.
  • On Jan 27, 2013 DPR asks UC to execute the employee instead due to concerns that the employee knows too much and will cooperate with LE
  • On Jan 29,2013 DPR agrees to pay 80,000 USD for the hit in two installments, one half immediately and the other when the job is done
  • In February 2013, money exchanges hands and the feds stage torture and death and provide DPR with "proof"
  • On March 1 2013 DPR transfers the remaining 40,000 USD to the UC

Like I hinted at earlier, it now seems like the later blackmail/hit interaction with friendly_chemist and redandwhite was almost certainly some sort of CI/UC trap, but time will tell.

If that's the case, it seems like LE must not have known or at least had proof of DPRs identity until the ID incident.


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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: naum]
    #18924017 - 10/02/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Holy shit


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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18924320 - 10/03/13 02:39 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)



I'm better some big time SR sellers must be shitting their pants right about now...

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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: damnnation]
    #18924327 - 10/03/13 02:41 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)


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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: damnnation]
    #18924350 - 10/03/13 02:51 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I wonder how quickly they'll go after some of their big vendors and how fucked they are.


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Re: Silk Road, the 'eBay of illegal drugs', busted by the FBI [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18924437 - 10/03/13 03:41 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

They have no funding atm? how is the FBI and DEA meant too carry out there Punishments?

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