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why addicts relapse
#18922653 - 10/02/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you are suffering from addiction and want to understand the neurobiology behind addiction/relapse this psychologist explains it pretty well.
Dr. Montes: Neurobiology of Addiction Part 1 The Treatment Center, on YouTube if link doesn't work
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Re: why addicts relapse [Re: MushMaster]
#18922680 - 10/02/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Link not working.
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Re: why addicts relapse (moved) [Re: MushMaster] 3
#18922690 - 10/02/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Other Drugs Discussion.
Reason: Better suited here.
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I makes sense, I have no other real explanation for why I still use heroin.
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Re: why addicts relapse (moved) [Re: smack]
#18922834 - 10/02/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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"The closest comparison we have to cravings is not eating for 2 to 3 days"
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Re: why addicts relapse (moved) [Re: smack] 1
#18922865 - 10/02/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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smack said: "The closest comparison we have to cravings is not eating for 2 to 3 days"
After 2 or 3 days I get used to being hungry and can get over it. Isn't that for most people?
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Re: why addicts relapse (moved) [Re: smack]
#18922882 - 10/02/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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But when presented with the prospect of eating, you are more likely to compulsively indulge.
If I'm hungry, I'll dip into my roommates open bag of chips. If I just had a meal in the last few hours, I wont.
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Re: why addicts relapse (moved) [Re: smack]
#18922887 - 10/02/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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smack said: But when presented with the prospect of eating, you are more likely to compulsively indulge.
If I'm hungry, I'll dip into my roommates open bag of chips. If I just had a meal in the last few hours, I wont.
Huh, that explained it.
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Re: why addicts relapse (moved) [Re: King Klick]
#18922976 - 10/02/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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lack of will power
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Re: why addicts relapse (moved) [Re: unknown1123] 1
#18922999 - 10/02/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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This won't play for me... can anyone pass on a youtube link?
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Re: why addicts relapse (moved) [Re: Anonamoose] 4
#18923017 - 10/02/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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today my buddy was like "I get clean all the fucking time" kinda made me think for a second and chuckle
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Re: why addicts relapse (moved) [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#18923023 - 10/02/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Led Zeppelin said: today my buddy was like "I get clean all the fucking time" kinda made me think for a second and chuckle
Sounds like me every time I run out of money!
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Re: why addicts relapse (moved) [Re: unknown1123]
#18923459 - 10/02/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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unknown1123 said: lack of will power
Ur ignorance amazes
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Re: why addicts relapse (moved) [Re: Anonamoose]
#18923473 - 10/02/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonamoose said: This won't play for me... can anyone pass on a youtube link? 
Search YouTube- Dr. Montes: Neurobiology of Addiction Part 1 The Treatment Center, on YouTube if link doesn't work
-------------------- I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. -Bene Gesserit Litany against fear Armin van Burren @ EDC Orlando 2012
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Re: why addicts relapse (moved) [Re: smack]
#18923485 - 10/02/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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smack said:
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Led Zeppelin said: today my buddy was like "I get clean all the fucking time" kinda made me think for a second and chuckle
Sounds like me every time I run out of money! 
sounds like me every time i run out of drugs!
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I couldn't understand the part where he said cravings could kill you. I mean, that makes sense for benzos and alcohol, but not stimulants or opiates. Seemed like in that section he just blended together all the drugs.
Thoughts?
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Re: why addicts relapse [Re: MushMaster] 1
#18923774 - 10/02/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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MushMaster said: If you are suffering from addiction and want to understand the neurobiology behind addiction/relapse this psychologist explains it pretty well.
Dr. Montes: Neurobiology of Addiction Part 1 The Treatment Center, on YouTube if link doesn't work
DR MONTES!!! Lol he was my psychiatrist when I went to The Treatment Center His groups were awesome I learned a lot
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Re: why addicts relapse (moved) [Re: smack]
#18923780 - 10/02/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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smack said: I couldn't understand the part where he said cravings could kill you. I mean, that makes sense for benzos and alcohol, but not stimulants or opiates. Seemed like in that section he just blended together all the drugs.
Thoughts?
treatment centers have this belief that all drugs are the same and will do the same things to you. a drug is a drug is a drug they say..its ridiculous
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Re: why addicts relapse (moved) [Re: King Klick] 1
#18923794 - 10/02/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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King Klick said:
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smack said: "The closest comparison we have to cravings is not eating for 2 to 3 days"
After 2 or 3 days I get used to being hungry and can get over it. Isn't that for most people?
The feeling of craving for food in your stomach goes away, but the symptoms of malnutrition don't. You become weak and edgy, even if you've given up on eating.
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Addicts relapse because they put their faith in 12 step programs... One of the worst things to happen in the history of man kind.
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